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I'd say it's a toss-up among Tim, Shaq, and Kobe.
I'd probably give the edge to Tim, but I wouldn't discount Kobe.
TNT's 'NBA Player of the Decade' vote
Barry Horn
I'm not really sure why TNT is doing this. After all, it has to be Tim Duncan, who has helped the Spurs to three NBA les since the start of the 2000-01 season doesn't it?
Kobe Bryant had Shaquille O'Neal as a co-pilot early in the decade and Dywane Wade and the referees helping him and LeBron James hasn't won a le. So where's the drama?
Here's TNT's game plan: "The 'NBA Player of the Decade' nominees will be selected through a vote by TNT's NBA announcers and unveiled during the 'TNT All-Decade NBA' show on NBA All-Star Saturday Night. Fans can vote on the All-Decade player until Sunday, Feb. 14 when it will be announced prior to TNT's exclusive coverage of the 2010 NBA All-Star Game."
That game, I will remind you, will be played at Cowboys Stadium.
Here, via news release, is the rest of what TNT is thinking.
TNT Unveils 'TNT All-Decade NBA' Showcase to Determine NBA's Greatest in the Past 10 Years
Network to Debut Nominees Each Thursday; Fans to Select Winners on NBA.com
TNT, home of Thursday night exclusive doubleheaders and the 2010 NBA All-Star Game, announced today a weekly showcase of nominees in 13 categories for its 'TNT All-Decade NBA' list which will include the top performances, games and moments throughout the 2000's. The network will announce one category's nominees each week on TNT's Emmy® Award-winning Inside the NBA beginning this Thursday, Nov. 19 when it unveils the nominees for 'Individual Performance: NBA Playoffs'. Following TNT's announcement of the nominees, fans can vote on NBA.com for whom they think should win. The 'TNT All-Decade NBA' winners will be announced in a special one-hour show airing during TNT's exclusive coverage of NBA All-Star Saturday Night on Feb. 13 at 5 p.m. (ET).
NBA.com will launch a 'TNT All-Decade NBA' mircosite that will feature clips of each nominee and a compilation of data and statistics. Following the announcement of the nominees and input from TNT's studio team of Ernie Johnson, Charles Barkley and Kenny Smith, fans can then re-watch the clips on NBA.com and place their vote. Voting will remain open from the time the nominees are announced until the winners are unveiled during NBA All-Star Weekend in Dallas. Each category will feature six nominees as determined by Turner Sports.
The 'TNT All-Decade NBA' Categories:
1 - November 19: Individual Game: NBA Playoffs
2 - November 26: Playoff Game
3 - December 3: Playoff Dunk
4 - December 10: Playoff Defense
5 - December 17: Individual Drama: NBA Playoffs
6 - December 31: Buzzer Beater: NBA Playoffs
7 - January 14: Playoff Series
8 - January 21: Individual Performance: Regular Season
9 - January 28: Buzzer Beater: Regular Season
10 - February 4: Regular Season Posterization
11 - February 8: All-Star Game Play
12 - February 11: All-Star Saturday Night Dunk
13 - February 12: Player of the Decade
I'd say it's a toss-up among Tim, Shaq, and Kobe.
I'd probably give the edge to Tim, but I wouldn't discount Kobe.
1 - November 19: Individual Game: NBA Playoffs - Lebron against Detroit in 2007, game 5.
2 - November 26: Playoff Game - Suns vs. Spurs 2008 game 1
3 - December 3: Playoff Dunk - Shaq dunk game 7 2000 vs. Portland
4 - December 10: Playoff Defense - 2004 Pistons
5 - December 17: Individual Drama: NBA Playoffs - Bell vs. Kobe
6 - December 31: Buzzer Beater: NBA Playoffs - .4 second Fisher shot
7 - January 14: Playoff Series - 2008 Bulls vs. Celtics
8 - January 21: Individual Performance: Regular Season - Kobe 81 points
9 - January 28: Buzzer Beater: Regular Season - There's not really one that stands out.
10 - February 4: Regular Season Posterization -
11 - February 8: All-Star Game Play - who cares?
12 - February 11: All-Star Saturday Night Dunk - who cares?
13 - February 12: Player of the Decade - Tim Duncan
According to Lakerfan logic it's Robert Horry since he has more rings than any of those guys this decade.
Duncan didn't have a 3 year disaster period like Kobe did from 2005-2007. That's why he gets the edge.
I disagree on the series, Celts and Bulls was nice but it's hard to say a first round series between what were essentially to average-to-good teams was the best.
I say Spurs-Mavs 06 is still by far the best of the decade, and really high on all time as well.
Second is Kings - Lakers 02, great quality, great drama, and the controversy that still surrounds it.
There are counter-arguments to many points for either side.
Kobe helped the Lakers get to two more Finals that they lost. Kobe also dominated more so offensively in scoring.
Also, I wouldn't call 2005-07 a 3 year disaster. Maybe 2004-05, but the following two years for Kobe to take those Lakers teams to the playoffs was far from disaster. The talent on those rosters was glaringly poor. Could they have done better? Possibly. And, game 7 of the 2006 playoffs against the Suns obviously sticks out as a low point in Kobe's immaturity and as a leader. But, I still wouldn't call it a disaster.
I wouldn't disagree that Tim has the edge. I said as much in my first post. He has two League MVPs and one more Finals MVP. He's also the "nice guy" so fewer people hate him like they hate Kobe.
I simply said I wouldn't discount Kobe.
Shaq has been non existant since 06, thats only half of a decade.
Toss up between jelly bean and timmy, can't go wrong either way
I say Tim, but I wouldn't be shocked if Kobe wins. I agree on Shaq though, incredible, unguardable, most powerful force to ever play the game, but for only the first half of the decade.
Though my team (obviously) lost that series, I have to agree that that series should win this category. Bulls/Celtics had lots of overtimes and some chippiness, but I'm not sure it lacked the wall-to-wall compe iveness that Mavs/Spurs had in 2006.
That series in 2006 had a 2 point Game 1, a Mavs blowout in Game 2, a 1 point Mavs win in Game 3, an overtime in Game 4, a 2 point Game 5, a 6-7 point Spurs win in Game 6, and an epic comeback (followed by a fatal error) to force overtime in Game 7. I got to attend 5 of the games in person and remember feeling a strange sort of contentment, tinged with disappointment (of course) after Game 7. I knew that I had seen two extremely good basketball teams give it their all for 7 games and two overtimes, with neither team ever really having any breathing room, even in the games that they won. It truly seemed like every possession of Games 1, 3, 4, 6, and 7 was do-or-die. It was truly epic basketball.
It featured Duncan and Dirk each playing at an incredible level and step-up performances by role players on both sides at various points in the series. It featured a nearly-completed rally from down 3-1 and an ultimate game decided in some of the most dramatic plays of the decade.
Had the Mavs won the le that season, I have no doubt the series would have defined those playoffs. I still think that had that series featured LA against either the Spurs or the Mavs and followed the same course, there's no doubt it would be proclaimed by pundits everywhere to be the premier series of this decade.
I really think there are only 4 viable candidates in this category: '09 BOS/CHI; '06 DAL/SA; '02 LAL/SAC; and '00 LAL/PRT. Obviously, I know which one I would vote for.
Maybe it wasn't a "disaster", but it sure as doesn't count for anything. No one is ever remembered for their ability to take a roster full of scrubs to the playoffs and then lose in the first round.
That is not the best individual performance.
How about Allen Iverson's 54 in a comeback victory on the Raptors in '01 to even the series at 1 apiece?
How about Wade's 36 points, 10 rebounds, 5 assists, 4 steals and 3 blocks in Game six of the '06 NBA Finals?
Tim Duncan's 21 points, 20 rebounds, 10 assists, and 8 blocks in Game six of the '03 Finals?
How about Dirk Nowitzki's 37 points, 15 rebounds, and tremendous clutch play against the Defending-Champion 63-win San Antonio Spurs in San Antonio? Remember, the Mavs had never won a playoff series against the Spurs...ever.
I'm nominating a couple of Pistons here for the of it. Ben Wallace in game 5 of the '04 Finals--18 points, 22 rebounds, and 3 steals. And with the Pistons in a 3-2 series hole to the 8th-seeded Orlando Magic, not having won a road playoff game since 1997, Mr. Big Shot is crowned with his nickname, dropping 40 and breaking Bill Laimbeer's 3-point shot record he set in game 2 of the 1990 NBA Finals.
I probably said that series cause it was more fresh in my mind, but you're right, that series was way better and more compe ive.
Best playoff performance has to be Game 6 2003 Finals. I leave you the stat line.
21 pts 20 reb 10 ast 8 blks. Total domination on the biggest stage in the clinching game. That's the best playoff game of the decade. I'll let you all figure out who the player was (as if it's really hard to figure it out).
Best playoff moment:
"Bang!"
The comeback. Stephen Jackson. D-Rob's last game. Duncan's dominance.
Best Moment candidates:
- Horry against the Kings
- Shaq's dunk
- 0.4
- Dirk's and 1
- LBJ dunk against the Celtis, without regard for human life!!
- Kobe against Suns!
Or how about Derrick Rose's rookie performance in Game 1 of the first round playoffs vs Celtics with 36 points 11 assists and 5 rebounds.
Its easy to figure out since someone already mentioned it above.
lol bitter Pistonfan
Iverson: 54 points, 5 rebounds, 4 assists, 4 turnovers against a mediocre 47 win team that might not even make the playoffs in today's NBA.
James: 48 points (while taking 6 less shots than A.I. did), 9 rebounds, 7 assists and 2 turnovers against 53 win team that would have run train on the 2001 Eastern conference.
Just out of curiosity, why did you not mention Wade's 35 points on 76.5% shooting, 8 rebounds, 4 assist, 2 steal, 1 block 4 turnover performance against the 64 win Pistons? Oh I forgot, cause you're probably too butthurt to achknowledge that.
48 points, 9 rebounds, 7 assists, 2 steals and 2 turnovers is more impressive than 36 points, 10 rebounds, 5 assists, 4 steals, 3 blocks and 5 turnovers, especially when one had a player on his team who was constantly getting double teamed and drawing attention away from him. Also, maybe it's just me, but it's pretty hard to call something a performance of the decade when a player doesn't score at least 40 points.
I don't know, that's pretty impressive when it was done against the daunting front line of Jason Collins and Kenyon Marin. I'd be surprised if that's even in the discussion.
If we're gonna factor in the franchise's history, then the fact Lebron's performance got Cleveland into its first ever NBA finals trumps the fact Dallas had never beaten SA. Again, Dirk's performance was no more clutch than Lebron's, and he led a way better supporting cast than Lebron did.
Yeah I'm just gonna ignore this.
I'll do the same to your sophmoric response.
I am really confounded by the amount of Kobe love. He has won one le as the lead of an absolutely loaded team, and there is little to no question that a Dwayne Wade or a LeBron James in the exact same situation would have won the 09 championship, or perhaps even the 08, but he continuously gets tossed into the debate of best player of the decade.
There really are only two candidates, Shaq and Duncan. Shaq because of his absolute dominance (or perceived dominance) for the first 4 years, and Duncan because of his prolonged excellence.
Kobe's peak was no where near as high as either of them, and the duration in which he dominated was shorter than either of them.
Best playoff moment:
"Bang!"
Aw how cute you can post a picture of someone hitting a shot over the Suns.
I can play this game too.
FISSION MAILEDAw how cute you can post a picture of someone hitting a shot over the Suns.
I can play this game too.
Fix it.
What's sop ric is blind bias against any player's performance against Detroit.
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