Couple arrested for refusing to tip waiter, claim bad service

[koriwhat]

i hate ty servers especially those that think they're the .

i had some terrible service the other week out in austin near the lake/river/whatever we were near.

dude was just taking orders and not running food to the tables so he definitely had no excuse as to why he sucked so bad. took him 10 minutes just to get to our table, then he left for about 5 minutes and came back to take our drink order, then left again for a good 10 minutes before coming back to take our drink order again. finally we get our drinks and he takes off again for a good 10 minutes before coming back to take our food order, he never comes around to refill our drinks, food comes out an hour later with all sorts of ups, then he proceeds to blame everyone except for himself.

dude claimed to be a "genius" waiter and was the best. my buddy was sarcastically saying how our other friend loves the waiter and just then the dude pops out of nowhere and asks, "who loves me?" and my friend starts laughing and says, "she does!". well that got our waiter thinking we liked him as a waiter and that he was on top of things, wrong!

we left him a big fat you on the table in pennies. yep what a tip.

[PizzaDeliveryGuy]

Don't even get me started on bad tippers.

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

I remember when the PizzaDeliveryGuy troll was created. Ahhh, for the good ol' days before the waiting period.

[Oh, Gee!!]

come for the lobster, stay for the tazing.

[Strike]

Just do this....

[Alex Jones]

I remember when the PizzaDeliveryGuy troll was created. Ahhh, for the good ol' days before the waiting period.

That waiting period pretty much killed the TRoll forum.

I used to work in the food industry the last thing you want to do is piss of a cook or a waiter before you get all of your food.

[Alice]

that waiting period pretty much killed the troll forum.

I used to work in the food industry the last thing you want to do is piss of a cook or a waiter before you get all of your food.

+100

[JoeChalupa]

I very rarely leave no tip. They have to really suck.

[MiamiHeat]

Obviously you need to get educated, in reading comprehension because I said flat out that I didn't know that it would hold up in court, but that they did get arrested.

It's a lot easier just to not give business to places that have these types of policies, or to go in knowing that the tip isn't tied to the quality of service.

Go get yourself some edumucations

easjer said they can't legally enforce this

You said "i'm gonna have to disagree with you there SINCE THEY GOT ARRESTED"

Arresting someone and charging them with a crime is not the same as legally enforcing a law. According to you, every arrest a cop ever makes is legal and legit. Cops can arrest you for things that don't even exist, it happens. but the Judge and the Court is the one who will call them on it and send you home. The courts are the ones who decide, they LEGALLY enforce the laws.

The judge and the court will decide to either dismiss the case and send them home, or whatever.

The court legally enforces laws, not police.

[Heath Ledger]

But if they really suck wouldn't you be inclined to tip even more?

[ShoogarBear]

I've stiffed a few waitresses in my day.

I usually just give them a really big tip.

[Hooters Girl]

But if they really suck wouldn't you be inclined to tip even more?

PM me!

[LOL texans]

that couple should sue. I bet they'd win

[ploto]

I am a great tipper, but I hate the idea that places put the mandatory tip on a large group. When they do this, that is all they get from me- exactly the amount they added and not a penny more. If they had not done this, the tip always would have been much higher.

[TDMVPDPOY]

so ir ur tipping 10% from the invoice...lol thats like paying half an hr salary right?

[whottt]

Um all the, pigs, in this thread that think it's ok to go out 8 people at a time and have someone bring you food and drinks for less than the minimum wage and then say you on the tip...can go hop in the lake.

If you don't want to tip, don't go eat at a restaurant that has waiters.


You know why the restaurant took up the waiters cause?

Because the restaurant pays the waiter less than the minimum wage and can do that because the waiter receives tips. If they do no recieve tips, the restaurants cannot pay them less than the minimum wage.

So I say to you again, if you go out to eat and specifically choose a place where you know you will have another human being bringing your food and drinks, you are a literal pig if you do not tip without a good reason.

And it is not always the waiters fault if your food is not on time, or your drinks are ed up.

And it is most definitely not his ing fault if you have to wait to get a table. That is not a good reason to royally the waiter.
That clearly makes you a clueless dumbass.


And the reason large parties have the gratu y included as opposed to small parties, is because large parties are a lot more likely to pull some asshole stunt like not tipping a person who has been bringing their lazy ing asses food and drinks for the last 2 hours.


People that do not like to tip, should not go to restaurants with waiters in them, you don't belong in them because you do not get it, you belong in a restaurant without waiters, and should take that into account when deciding where you will eat. Restaurants are for people that want service, appreciate it, and are willing to pay for it, they are not for people that don't and aren't.

[Jacob1983]

These people were completely justified on not tipping. Why reward someone for doing a ty job? If the waiter or waitress sucks ass, then they shouldn't be rewarded for it. Common sense. Besides, are you honestly going to tell me that you would be generous on your tip to a waiter that was rude, slow, and an asshole or to you?

[Blake]

Yes.

But. Even when it's written down, they aren't going to be able to legally enforce. Mandatory gratuity won't hold up in court, because it is as defined, an additional payment in recognition of service provided.

With most credit card companies, if you cross it out on the bill and refuse to pay it, the restaurant can't charge it, and if they do, the credit card company will refuse to pay it.

We just had a long discussion about this in our staff meeting yesterday.

But yeah, you need to complain to the manager. And 'busy' doesn't give license for inexcusable service like having to get your own silverware and drink refills.

which makes me wonder how the cops had the brass to actually arrest these people.

seems to me they would have told the bar to take it up in civil court.

[Blake]

Go get yourself some edumucations

easjer said they can't legally enforce this

You said "i'm gonna have to disagree with you there SINCE THEY GOT ARRESTED"

Arresting someone and charging them with a crime is not the same as legally enforcing a law. According to you, every arrest a cop ever makes is legal and legit. Cops can arrest you for things that don't even exist, it happens. but the Judge and the Court is the one who will call them on it and send you home. The courts are the ones who decide, they LEGALLY enforce the laws.

The judge and the court will decide to either dismiss the case and send them home, or whatever.

The court legally enforces laws, not police.

these people now might be able to file a lawsuit against the city of Philadelphia for false arrest.

[J.T.]

Gotta back up MiamiHeat here. Friend of mine who is already on probation for multiple counts of drug possession was pulled over and then arrested after the cop found xanax in his car. He faked a panic attack and the cop let him go (also possibly because it was his girlfriend's vehicle). Cop later tried to get him to help take down some drug dealers via blackmail and since my friend was never formally charged and no police report was filed, his lawyers pretty much told to the cop to off or get sued. Cops bend rules all the time to further themselves.

Also they hate being called cops. I always make a point to call them cops on purpose. They don't even know what cop stands for.

[I. Hustle]

Cops? I call them pigs

[katyon6th]

So I say to you again, if you go out to eat and specifically choose a place where you know you will have another human being bringing your food and drinks, you are a literal pig if you do not tip without a good reason.

So, what's a good reason not to tip?

[MannyIsGod]

these people now might be able to file a lawsuit against the city of Philadelphia for false arrest.

There's no grounds for a lawsuit here.

[I. Hustle]

If a server ignores me, takes 30 minutes to take my order, brings me the wrong drinks they start getting deductions from their tip. ALSO I hate when I am rushed out of a restaurant.

[baseline bum]

Um all the, pigs, in this thread that think it's ok to go out 8 people at a time and have someone bring you food and drinks for less than the minimum wage and then say you on the tip...can go hop in the lake.

If you don't want to tip, don't go eat at a restaurant that has waiters.


You know why the restaurant took up the waiters cause?

Because the restaurant pays the waiter less than the minimum wage and can do that because the waiter receives tips. If they do no recieve tips, the restaurants cannot pay them less than the minimum wage.

So I say to you again, if you go out to eat and specifically choose a place where you know you will have another human being bringing your food and drinks, you are a literal pig if you do not tip without a good reason.

And it is not always the waiters fault if your food is not on time, or your drinks are ed up.

And it is most definitely not his ing fault if you have to wait to get a table. That is not a good reason to royally the waiter.
That clearly makes you a clueless dumbass.


And the reason large parties have the gratu y included as opposed to small parties, is because large parties are a lot more likely to pull some asshole stunt like not tipping a person who has been bringing their lazy ing asses food and drinks for the last 2 hours.


People that do not like to tip, should not go to restaurants with waiters in them, you don't belong in them because you do not get it, you belong in a restaurant without waiters, and should take that into account when deciding where you will eat. Restaurants are for people that want service, appreciate it, and are willing to pay for it, they are not for people that don't and aren't.

I totally agree and almost always give 20% if the service was decent. If it consists entirely of the waiter taking my order and bringing the bill and the busboy bringing my food, that's not something worth paying for. That's the same service you get at McDonalds, and no one would ever tip that. If the place is busy I'm OK if things take time, but if there's more waiters in a restaurant than there are customers, then I'm not going to understand when it takes 15 minutes to walk in back and get my Coke and the waiter doesn't come by at all in 30-45 minutes to check to see if I need a refill, clear off a finished plate, check if I want to order desert, etc. That one time at PF Changs is thankfully the only time I have ever received service like that, and the only time I have ever not tipped.