35 minutes seems extreme but how about just letting them play all the games 20-24 minutes instead of sitting them out every other game and not allowing them to get any kind of cohesion together? The coach seems to treat this team like glass...
BTW, I never said the Lakers, Celts and Cavs are rolling but I did say they find ways to stay above water while dealing with injuries...something I thought I would be able to say about the Spurs.
Sure if you are the Clippers it doesn't matter much but you can not lose your way to a championship. How many teams in history have won the championship with a low seed? You can't honestly say you like those odds. Do Y'all keep forgetting that we play in the west where 1 win could mean getting 2-8 playoff seeding? I know people here say that home-court advantage doesn't matter however NBA history does say otherwise.
Personally i am really getting tired of all the excuses we make for these cry baby millonaires.... They dont need any of you to make excuses for them you think they care about there record... Don’t be so delusional. This reminds me of the days when we use to be called soft, and it took the junk yard dog Mario Ellie(spelling) to get our acts straight... I really see no hunger or fight from TD and others... In the extreme measure that an example needs to be made let it come from the So-called Capt. of the team TD, so far he looks liket he biggest cry baby of them all....... If he is not willing to lead then how do you expect the rest to act an absence of leadership.....
(Just a overly fustrated fan venting here, but i see the potential this team has, well on paper anyway.......) Get your acts together.. Enough about the oh where missing the 2/3 bigs last i checked i thought we had a new big 4.... Two down we still have 2 left! right.... UTAH had only 2 stars as well so whats the excuse.....
And the crying continues...
The Spurs are playing hard so I can't criticize their effort. The talent just isn't there anymore.
the fix is in and it's so obvious it's ridiculous.
good to see on the box score that spurs only allowed 90. the D is looking up!
Pop will put the big bad bruthas on the court after the rodeo road trip.
until then, eat, drink, and be merry. brew yourselves a nice cup of 'relax' and wait for the real season to start. SPAM.
Who in this forum thinks that the Jazz have a more talented roster than the Spurs... I dont, pretty sure most of you would agree.. So to say u really dont want to criticize their effort... They have been and again last night out played by an inferrier teams... That shows a lack of effort......
TLong is just a trolling idiot. Everyone knows we're going through a tough time right now trying to find our iden y, and with Tony and Manu out, it's hard. Our defense has been stoic over the past couple of games, and when we get our offensive anchors back, hopefully we'll get back to gelling on offense, and pick it up.
You are hilarious!
im concerned, but not ready to jump off the cliff yet. Their schedule to start the season has been wacky and certainly doesnt help build consistency when you get 3-4 days off at a time. add to that the injuries and accept that its going to take a lot longer than we hoped for this team to gel. They are giving effort, thats all we can ask for. My biggest frustration is with mahinmi and haislip getting no minutes, if they arent going to contribute get rid of their asses, we need another big that can contribute on the glass and defense. We need to get these next 3 at home, get to 7-5 and go from there. If come Jan they still suck, you take that boatload of expiring contracts and find someone to help the cause.
There's nobody more interested in playing than Ginobili considering it's a contract year for him. And we're obviously not the Lakers.
well his currently playin like atm, if this continues i dont even think the spurs should even throw the MLE at him.....
And maybe they won't. But that's besides the point. He's got every reason, monetary and otherwise, to want to be out there playing.
Seriously, what would happen if we fired Pop? I mean the Hornets fired Scott and just beat the Suns (who beat the Celtics).
=> Hornets > Suns > Celtics
That was a few years ago. He's either not the same, or the staff that made him look good are gone.
Pop sucks now, horribly!
the great defense we were all used to is never going to be the same. that doesnt mean it cant still be a good defense.... offensively we have tons of talent. more talent then we have ever had..... we should be outscoring our opponents at will. period
did PJ have anything to do with our prior success? Maybe we can get him back.That was a few years ago. He's either not the same, or the staff that made him look good are gone.
Pop sucks now, horribly!
No, if Bryant is able to do it, then why isn't Ginobili? My logic is predicated on the severity of the injury. In the past, I'd have agreed with you. Not anymore. Don't you get it? It's going to be a struggle for this team to earn a top 3 seed and if they don't earn one, then you can forget about winning a championship this season. Which is the goal.
No, my logic makes perfect sense. The Spurs and Spurs apologists act like it's just a given that they'll be a top 3 seed and that there's nothing to worry about. In case you haven't noticed, it's going to be extremely difficult to break into the top 2 and difficult just to get home court at all. Top 3 seeds may not be won in the first ten games, but they can be lost then. This was supposed to be the "easy part" of the schedule. I'm not judging this team, I'm being realistic.
They're both considered "minor" injuries and I've given comparable examples of players playing with similar injuries, so why can't these two? It's like many of you have been brainwashed by the notion that if it's the Spurs way, then it's automatically the right way. Bryant could have sat a week, but he knows that would probably cost his team in the race for the best record and that could ultimately cost them the championship; so he played. The Spurs are being overly cautious, which they can no longer afford to do if they want to get to where they want to go.
When you've seen a team play at the level this one has for as long as it has and many of the key players are still in place, it's only natural to expect more of the same. Particularly when you consider the roster upgrades and how bad (by their standards) this team looked for much of last season. People are anxious, as well they should be.
News Flash! Planet Spur undergoes its customary seasonal meltdown phase, marked by higher than normal Lemming migrations to the coasts. Authorities predict that its going to get worse before it gets better. However, enough Lemmings are expected to survive to regenerate the species..
It sucks having lost three in a row; it sucks being 4-6; it sucks losing at home to the Jazz.
But the last game wasn't all bad, in my opinion. Defensively, we were definitely not atrocious, but a little slow at rotating, closing out, fighting through screens and matching their physical style of play. And Mason Jr. showed that he at least ain't dead yet.
What was atrocious, however, was the three-point shooting. We were playing good enough to win this one, but then fell short (again) at the end, while a player from the other team put the game away (Boozer this time, Nowitzki in the game before).
Defense has gotten better since the Raptors game, though. Offensively, guys are still figuring out their roles on a revamped team, which just takes some time. I think our biggest concern as fans right now should be the injuries that already happened so early in the season.
Best post of the thread IMHO.
And then some fans want to start trading for more new players before even giving these guys a chance to gain chemistry with each other? Incredible!
There are already so many new players on this team that it is debateable whether it should be called "retooling" or a total restructuring process.
I see no reason to panic at this point despite the record.
Once the talent level of this team eventually gels, they will be hard to beat, and you need to play the games, win or lose, to gel all these new players, learn their spots and comfort zones. That is the reality of the situation, because they will learn as much or more from the losing as from the winning. That is the way it is in real life and the way it is in this game called basketball.
The talent level is there. The chemistry of integrating all the NEW talent isn't there yet, but make no mistake, it will be integrated.
The worry lies in whether there will be enough time to garner a high seed once it does.
Yet even if they get a low seed come playoff time, yet are playing at the expected high level that was shown on paper at the preseason, there is nothing sugestive that they won't be able to go all the way to another championship despite being an underdog and playing without homecourt advantage!
Your really need to quit it with the broad-brushed generalizations. First it's "you don't respect people with a low post count" and now it's "you have been brainwashed into believing that he Spurs way is the right way". Seriously, just stop....you sound foolish.
As far as the injuries go, it's pretty silly to compare Bryant to Manu and TP(Even though I have already stated I think Bryant should not play injured either). The first and most obvious reason is Kobe Bryant is the second best 2 guard to ever touch a basketball. Even at partial effectiveness, he can change the game for his team...which leads me directly into the reasons why Manu and TP do not benefit this team by playing hurt.
Parker's game starts and ends with his speed. If he cannot explode to the rim and stop and go quickly he becomes far less effective and his play making ability pretty much goes out the window...leading to teams not be worried about him finishing at the rim and him becoming a jump shooter. Not to mention that a player that runs and cuts so hard is not going to do an ankle injury any favors. The result will be a nagging injury that continues to limit him or a worse injury all together.
Manu resting ANY injury...no matter how small...is basically a no-brainer for anyone who has watched Spurs basketball throughout his career. Manu...like Parker...relies on his ability to go hard all the time in order to make plays. He is going to dive for balls, run into a defender, jump into another player competing for a rebound, etc. He is Manu Ginobili and nothing will change that. He is the same Manu who overcompensated on his other leg which led to a stress fracture. If it is up to him, he will play injured to try to help his team...but as we have seen that can lead to him getting injured worse. A minor injury with Manu can only heal totally one way...rest.
Many and TP are what the are. I wish that they could be as effective as Bryant is when he is injured, but they cannot...and I wouldn't want them trying to be anyway.
Bump.
Just getting it ready for Thursday.
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