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    Popovich has changed D for offense. We r gonna have a rude awakening seeing our team not making the WCF. The whole Duncan era Spurs have never been considered an offensive weapon. Spurs D have won 4 precious Championships. Now, we dont have D, nor offensive to stop opponents D and opponent offense.

    Lets break our team D carefully:
    1- Tony: a mediocre defender
    2- Manu: not even a shadow from 2 years ago
    3- Mason: a joke at the defensive end
    4- Finley: do i need to say a word?
    5- Bonner: look Finley comment!
    6- RJefferson: average defender but cant be too aggresive because foul trouble can put Spurs in offensive end problems
    7- Duncan: ok......mmmmmmmmm let think my words carefully before the flame war........... My comment about his D right now is a question: is he a force on D right now? Answer yourself such question and conclude.
    8- Ratliff: he only blocks one shot per game and nothing else. One block doesnt equal to good D
    9- Mcdyess: decent defender but........our paint is nicely protected with him? Hummmmmmmmmmmm?
    10- Blair: he is just grabbing some rebounds per game, not much......but his D? Dont lie yourself saying he is a beast. This beast is allowing points in the paint at will.
    11- Hill: our best defender. But can he stop Nash, Cp3, DWill, Wade, Rose? You know those PGs will eat him alive. Sad but true my friend.
    12-Bogans: good defender but can against guys like Kobe, Lebron, Melo, Granger, Joe Johnson, Kevin Martin, Carter??? Yeah right !!! lol lol.

    Come on guys, our D is gone. Our prime defender Bowen is gone, Timmy force on D is not there anymore, Manu speed on hands for steals is over. Our paint is a paradise for our opponents.
    Regarding offense, can we win the Ring with offense and this current D? Even more, with this kind of inconsistent offense?

    If Spurs dont right the ship, a rude awakening is near the corner. Im not being pesimistic, but with pain im seeing the reality.
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    you dont watch the spurs do you
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    Amen. The glory days are through. I will still support my Spurs, but anyone believing we are a championship quality team really should dig deep. Our best days are now in the past. I still don't understand Pop's obsession with Mason as a PG. I truly believe if this was any other team in the league Blair would be starting despite his lack of D.
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    it, lets just trade the whole team.
    I'm down for a noob meltdown.
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    Manu for Andrew Bogut?
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    I don't agree that this is the end. There's plenty, even in the last couple of games, to suggest that this team is as compe ive as it's ever been and, when fully healthy, will be a force to be reckoned with. I might be alone in that assessment, but it's what I see.

    Nevertheless, if this IS the end, it's been a of a 20 year ride.
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    yup, we are not the elite top 3 or 5 defensive team anymore...but the idea is with the added offense, we only need to be a good, like a top 10 defensive team to succeed. I think it'll take time to get there and will probably need a trade or two...
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    Manu for Andrew Bogut?
    Trade a star level guy with injury problems for a fairly average center with injury problems?
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    apparently someone has missed the last couple of games..
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    I don't agree that this is the end. There's plenty, even in the last couple of games, to suggest that this team is as compe ive as it's ever been and, when fully healthy, will be a force to be reckoned with. I might be alone in that assessment, but it's what I see.

    Nevertheless, if this IS the end, it's been a of a 20 year ride.
    You are NOT alone.
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    I think the spurs defense looks like it is improving. It's their offense that is their weakness.. their shot selection and ball movement has been very bad and as always.. free throws! They miss way too many. But yeah as for their defense.. I think it is looking better each game. Of course they make mistakes but its early in the season and its going to take time for them to get used to playing as a team.
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    defense is not the problem. The problem is that we are not executing down the stretch.
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    We have yet to play any true contender so not really much to guage how we stand on defense or offense yet.
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    Popovich has changed D for offense. We r gonna have a rude awakening seeing our team not making the WCF. The whole Duncan era Spurs have never been considered an offensive weapon. Spurs D have won 4 precious Championships. Now, we dont have D, nor offensive to stop opponents D and opponent offense.

    Lets break our team D carefully:
    1- Tony: a mediocre defender
    2- Manu: not even a shadow from 2 years ago
    3- Mason: a joke at the defensive end
    4- Finley: do i need to say a word?
    5- Bonner: look Finley comment!
    6- RJefferson: average defender but cant be too aggresive because foul trouble can put Spurs in offensive end problems
    7- Duncan: ok......mmmmmmmmm let think my words carefully before the flame war........... My comment about his D right now is a question: is he a force on D right now? Answer yourself such question and conclude.
    8- Ratliff: he only blocks one shot per game and nothing else. One block doesnt equal to good D
    9- Mcdyess: decent defender but........our paint is nicely protected with him? Hummmmmmmmmmmm?
    10- Blair: he is just grabbing some rebounds per game, not much......but his D? Dont lie yourself saying he is a beast. This beast is allowing points in the paint at will.
    11- Hill: our best defender. But can he stop Nash, Cp3, DWill, Wade, Rose? You know those PGs will eat him alive. Sad but true my friend.
    12-Bogans: good defender but can against guys like Kobe, Lebron, Melo, Granger, Joe Johnson, Kevin Martin, Carter??? Yeah right !!! lol lol.

    Come on guys, our D is gone. Our prime defender Bowen is gone, Timmy force on D is not there anymore, Manu speed on hands for steals is over. Our paint is a paradise for our opponents.
    Regarding offense, can we win the Ring with offense and this current D? Even more, with this kind of inconsistent offense?

    If Spurs dont right the ship, a rude awakening is near the corner. Im not being pesimistic, but with pain im seeing the reality.
    Typical "fan" ready to mail it in w/ 72 games to go.....there's always a thread started like this when things aren't going well. No D, huh? Give it a chance...it's a new team w/ a lot on new players. If you were a real fan you'd understand that. Go watch the Lakers.
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    We have yet to play any true contender so not really much to guage how we stand on defense or offense yet.
    We would get slaughtered if we played one of the true contenders right now.... we've got a lot to improve..
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    Where are these new posters coming from anyways?
    The "D" is markedly improving, or do you not watch the games?
    Sure there are holes on the "D", but all is not lost like the OP suggest, in fact I think it is quite the opposite. I feel if the D is there the Spurs will be in nearly every game with a chance to win, and as the offense gets set and players come back, it will only get better.

    I still feel that Ratliff will be very valuable, in a Kevin Willis-like role down the stretch.
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    Not having Bruce was going to equal failure. See last year.
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    your an idiot.
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    I just want to see another game because its hard to believe whats going on. the losses are starting to add up and i cant say ive seen the spurs put together a game that you can be excited about. or even a half.(ive missed 2 wins this season so far.) is this the ten year jinx coming back for another number one pick, i hope not
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    Not having Bruce was going to equal failure. See last year.
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    Our defense needs some offensive punch to help it not be so demanding. On it's own merit...our defense hasn't been all that bad except for one game this year. Factor in injured key players, new faces, and having to insert players out of their comfort/abilities is it any wonder it seems like a nightmare right now?

    I don't think this team has "woken" up yet to consider anything rude about what's happened so far.

    Wake me up in February if it's the same as it is now.
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    The Spurs D has actually been pretty good in the four games since the abortion of the Toronto game, holding their opponents to less than 42% shooting in that span. They've been rebounding at a decent clip too. These last few games have been strictly about not having sufficient offensive firepower with the injuries.
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    Not having Bruce was going to equal failure. See last year.
    Yeah, last year turned out really great, didn't it?
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    Yeah, the Spurs are terrible... remember in '99 when the Spurs started 6-8. I about went to Houston to become a Rockets fan. Then in '03 the Spurs were doing fine until they lost 4 straight to be 9-10. Yup, that year I burned my DRob and TDuncan Rookie Cards along with all my Jerseys.
    I watch the game and I think we have a damn good chance to win it, we just need to overcome the injury bug.
    I take the SPURS in the Finals to win in 5... GO SPURS GO!!!
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