Did Christianity Cause the Crash?

[Ignignokt]

So she actually didn't.

Okay.

actually?

Almost?

ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ChumpDumper]

actually?

Almost?

ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No.

ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Ignignokt]

Chumps defending a woman whose using a small percentage of the Latino population which is majority catholic to blame christianity for a crisis.

Chump just didn't do what stupid tries?

[ChumpDumper]

Chumps defending a woman whose using a small percentage of the Latino population which is majority catholic to blame christianity for a crisis.

Chump just didn't do what stupid tries?

Nah, I'm just saying you couldn't find a quote where she actually did that.

You failed and you're pissy about it.

[ploto]

Not a fan of the prosperity gospel. I listened to Osteen a few times and thought he was OK- at least not a fire and brimstone or End of Times kind of guy. But I quickly discovered that here I thought he was taking about spiritual rewards when he went on and on about God wanting to bless people. I finally realized he actually meant financial rewards, and I had no interest in listening to him anymore. He seems to encourage people to take financial risk, claiming it will all be fine if their faith is strong enough. Some even go so far as to suggest that your faith is weak if you are not willing to take these risks. Just not in line with what I believe. I find so much of the life of Jesus the complete opposite of how these congregations operate and the priorities that they have.

Jesus answered, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."

Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."

"For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also."

"Do not take along any gold or silver or copper in your belts; take no bag for the journey, or extra tunic, or sandals or a staff."

[admiralsnackbar]

Not a fan of the prosperity gospel. I listened to Osteen a few times and thought he was OK- at least not a fire and brimstone or End of Times kind of guy. But I quickly discovered that here I thought he was taking about spiritual rewards when he went on and on about God wanting to bless people. I finally realized he actually meant financial rewards, and I had no interest in listening to him anymore. He seems to encourage people to take financial risk, claiming it will all be fine if their faith is strong enough. Some even go so far as to suggest that your faith is weak if you are not willing to take these risks. Just not in line with what I believe. I find so much of the life of Jesus the complete opposite of how these congregations operate and the priorities that they have.

Jesus answered, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."

Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."

"For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also."

"Do not take along any gold or silver or copper in your belts; take no bag for the journey, or extra tunic, or sandals or a staff."

I don't mean to single you out, but it's a relief to read somebody on this board who has actually read and understood the Gospels, IMO. Osteen seems like a mountebank, offering more what people want than what the Gospels actually extend to them.

[Ignignokt]

Nah, I'm just saying you couldn't find a quote where she actually did that.

You failed and you're pissy about it.

Thanks for confirming you didn't read the article.

The subject was chrisitianity causing the crash, and she did use latino protestants as a data sample.

[Ignignokt]

Nah, I'm just saying you couldn't find a quote where she actually did that.

You failed and you're pissy about it.

Why do you hate reading articles?

Among Latinos the prosperity gospel has been spreading rapidly. In a recent Pew survey, 73 percent of all religious Latinos in the United States agreed with the statement: “God will grant financial success to all believers who have enough faith.” For a generation of poor and striving Latino immigrants, the gospel seems to offer a road map to affluence and modern living. Garay’s church is comprised mostly of first-generation immigrants. More than others I’ve visited, it echoes back a highly distilled, unself-conscious version of the current thinking on what it means to live the American dream.

[ChumpDumper]

Right. That quote doesn't say what you said it did.

Fail.

[Ignignokt]

Right. That quote doesn't say what you said it did.

Fail.

You thought i did a direct qoute.

fail.

[ChumpDumper]

You thought i did a direct qoute.

fail.

I asked for a direct quote.

And you just posted a direct quote.

Fail.

[whottt]

It's the Mexicans fault

[ChumpDumper]

Look at the straw man I just made!

[whottt]

Take one to know one, you antisemite Nazi

[ChumpDumper]

I made another straw man! More to come! I've got bales of this stuff!

[whottt]

So Jews can never write about Christians?

K.

[ChumpDumper]

I'm upset that my "logic" was turned against me.

[whottt]

When someone uses my logic against me, I call it a strawman

[ChumpDumper]

I don't actually use anyone's logic against them. I make up my straw men all by myself, using the most inflammatory language I can come up with. Hopefully I'll piss the guy off.

[whottt]

It's different when I do it

[ChumpDumper]

I said the author is biased because she is a liberal Jew.

[Ignignokt]

I asked for a direct quote.

And you just posted a direct quote.

Fail.

You suck at grasping for straws.

fail.

[Ignignokt]

Liberal Jews are objective and authoritative sources on Christians.

[ChumpDumper]

You suck at grasping for straws.

fail.

You're the one who got pissy after you couldn't find a quote.

Fail.

[ChumpDumper]

Look at me! I'm using whottt's straw! There's a whole lot of it!