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Because Tim Duncan sucks.
/sarcasm.
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Looking back, why did TD fail at winning gold. He & Iverson were the leaders of that team, yet the US REALLY underperformed. Guys like Gasol, Irk, and Manu had lesser supporting casts and led them futher.
Was is a lack of leadership? Poor coaching? Not having a goto guy they could depend on in the clutch? Is it fair to say that if Kobe is on that team, Duncan has a gold medal instead of bronze?
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Because Tim Duncan sucks.
/sarcasm.
he's ty and over-rated
He's just not that clutch.
Larry Brown.
I think was a lot of things.
For whatever reason, Tim struggled to fit into the international game, and didn't find his post moves as a effective against the agile big men of the FIBA world. He was also extremely foul prone (especially for a guy who hardly ever fouls out in the NBA), to the point where I wanted to call conspiracy as a Tim Duncan fan. He was consistently not allowed to work in the post.
On top of that, it was a weak US National Team surrounding him. You had guys like Stephon Marbury and Allen Iverson with their own agenda, while Lebron James and Dwayne Wade sat on the bench (they were like pre-sophmores at the time). That team was painfully thin on the front line (for a Dream team), and was more content jacking up shots. Duncan was never well utilized, even while on the floor.
It's also fair to say that the U.S. underestimated its compe ion, especially Argentina. Despite a weak showing in the previous WC, they still expected to go out there and dominate, and were caught on their heels when they didn't.
I think all of that built up to frustration, which also didn't help Tim's game. He seemed to be pressing, which only found him a spot on the bench faster than it found the ball in the basket. After all of that, it's no small surprise why Duncan didn't leave the experience a fan of FIBA.
From the new Bill Simmons book:
"Duncan never received enough credit here: after playing 275 of a possible 289 games the previous three years, he sucked it up and represented his country while KG passed. Why? Because KG was tired from making it past the second round for the first time. But KG is the 'warrior'? Really?"
If KG, Kidd, and Kobe show up, the team wins.
There's your problem right there.
Good post. I had forgot that Starbury was even on the team.
It was surprising to see TD struggle with FIBA rules because I thought he would thrive due to his skillset.
And Ginobili was a beast.
Clearly because he is overrated. Tim Duncan is mostly the creation of david stern and NBA referees. You saw how much of a "winner" he is without the WWE tactics of the NBA to prop him up.
Wow talking about creation, what do you think David Stern and ESPN are doing to Lebron
Exactly. KG, Kidd, Kobe, Shaq and Tmac who along with TD were probably the best players in the game at the time turned down invites. Plus some of the young guys like Melo, Bosh, Amare, Wade and Bron werent getting as much PT as they shouldve. Manu was a beast that tournament too.
American arrogance. Teams and players from other countries were getting better, and the United States thought they could just throw together a bunch of third tier stars around a couple superstars and still walk away with it. Then you have Larry Brown's stubborness to play LeBron, Wade, and Carmelo in favor of Marbury, Odom, Jefferson, and Matrix.
Duncan did struggle with the FIBA rules and the officiating, but he was far from the main reason the US failed in 2004. However, in the same vein, if it were Kobe who led that team, Kobe haters would have made a huge deal about it to criticize Kobe.
I think it proves that regardless of how great one individual player is, teammates, coaching, and chemistry are still vital ingredients for team success.
LeBron James is the best player in the world, bar none. Don't try comparing him to someone who's not even in the top 5.
I thought you were the best player.
Shaq was definitley not going cause he is fat and lazy. I thought T-mac had an injury that summer. Kobe was still dealing with the aftermath of the season he was accused of rape so wasnt going to do it. Kidd and KG def should've been there. And Larry Brown blows
I will be when I get the P.T. Future G.O.A.T.
For now i"ll have to settle for better than Tim Duncan.
Because Kobe Bryant is the player of the decade.
Because OBVIOUSLY Duncan is the worst player to ever pick up a basketball.
I also remember a bunch of players backing out like Ray Allen because they were afraid of terrorist threats.
yeah spot on.
a lot of players declined the offer to play and so the US was not the best it could possibly be. young players like Carmelo Anthony found themselves in Larry Brown's doghouse and "Lebronze" was hardly who he is now.
i remember watching one particular episode where Wade threw the ball to an unsuspecting Odom. Pretty much sums it all up.
Wasn't Ray Allen getting married then? That's why he backed out. It might have been McGrady.
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