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Bonner and Hill works really hard in games. They are the very important for the spurs. The last game with them playing really well, I saw the spurs offense of kicking out, and passing the ball around for that extra pass.
bonner on the floor vs the lakers in the playoffs is a nightmare scenario.
that's all we need to know.
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Bonner and Hill works really hard in games. They are the very important for the spurs. The last game with them playing really well, I saw the spurs offense of kicking out, and passing the ball around for that extra pass.
Bonner is only important for the regular season. It's an important role, but let's be clear, he has proven to vanish in big moments, especially in the playoffs. Even last game he got pushed around by the Turk with the hockey mask. He's important for the majority of games but not the ones that matter until proven otherwise.
That turkish guy is pretty good and averaging 12/7. I agree with bonner's playoff performances but usually when the spurs play bad its not only bonner who plays bad, its usually the whole team who plays bad. Its funny that when the spurs lose its usually bonners fault but when they win, bonner is mentined only as a sidenote..
Matt Bonner doesn't usually get his due around here. For one, Spurs fans have a general feeling that he's a horrible defender when in truth he's actually very good at moving his feet and staying in front of most players. He doesn't have the athleticism to block many shots but he does a good job staying in front of players most of the time.
What he's horrible at is rebounding. He doesn't always get a body on players and he's just not very good at boarding the ball.
Now, that being said, he's obviously a very good offensive player with a great shot and better than average dribbling and passing. His driving is usually underrated and while I would rather him shoot more than drive thats simply because his shooting is so good and not because he's a terrible penetrator.
The problem with Matt Bonner was never Matt Bonner but Popovich. Setting him up to be the starter was setting him up for failure. He's not someone you should start but someone who should always fill a role off the bench.
Solid. Let's hope if he is lucky, it holds in the postseason. Bonner is what he is.
The No-Flash Flashpoint
by Graydon Gordian
In my recap of Monday’s Bucks-Spurs game, I touched on one of the team’s more controversial topics: The talent and usage of Matt Bonner. There are a proud few who claim that his ability to spread the floor and gaudy advanced statistics speak to his importance to the team, even if his vanilla-flavored style isn’t making any highlight reels. There are an equally passionate many who see Bonner’s limited defensive ability and one-trick-pony offensive style and insist he be relegated to the end of the bench.
I’ve danced around the subject numerous times but I don’t believe I have ever articulated just what I think Bonner is capable of and how often he should be used.
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1. +/- doesn't mean much over a small sample size. It doesn't automatically mean anything over an entire season. Although in this case probably both stats mean something.
2. Bonner plays well in games that aren't close and against teams that aren't that good. He also plays well when he doesn't face much defensive pressure. I don't Pop tends to go with him much in closely contested games, especially down the stretch, although I'm not 100% sure on that.
But he definitely tends to play well in blowouts and when the whole teams is playing good more often than he does independently of the team.
It's not so much a question of is Bonner lucky or good...he's good, that's why he's also a choker when he fails to do it under pressure. If he wasn't any good to begin with he wouldn't a be a choker, and unfortunately he pretty much unqestionably is one. While it's not unheard of for chokers to change, it doesn't happen very often, unfortunatley for us, and Bonner.
There's nothing merely good about Bonner's shot, he's got an exceptional shot, and form...that's why it sucks so hard when he chokes. And unfortunately he doesn't do much esle when his shots aren't going down.
If you ask me what sets Tim Duncan apart from so many other players, I do not think Duncan is dominant in the traditional sense, what makes him dominant is that is is impossible to shut down every aspect of his game. You might get him in one area...that just means he's going to step it another where you aren't getting him. Bonner doesn't have that sort of mentality...he's really got no exuse for not being a consistent high rebounder...he's a big brawny guy, that plays hard and isn't afraid of physical contact, the only reason his rebounding tends to suck when his shooting tends to suck is his mental outlook.
Matt Bonner = gets more white people in the seats.
lucky for being on the spurs yes good and hitting some open tre's
I believe this is an accurate statement.
I point this out because it was claimed in a different thread by some other spurs fans that nobody comes to watch nba games to see slow unathletic white guys play, and that was their excuse why the slow unathletic white guys around the league (example: Matt Bonner) always get the butt end of all the ref's calls because they don't sell tickets.
I don't get why if slow, unathletic white guys like Bonner still get people motivated to buy tickets to see him (which helps support the league) why does he still command so little respect from the officials?
Especially I've noticed if the officials are black he might as well forget it... he will get called for anything and everything.
Yesterday's game was a typical one for Matt Bonner. Get called for 3 quick fouls (2 of which were b.s I thought) get mad and start making more mistakes.. lose confidence.... and then get quickly yanked out of the game.
/does it really matter/
yeah, you're a in
bonner
pure, unadulterated, dumb, dumb luck.
he can't defend. he doesn't rebound.
he does exactly one thing reasonably well- shoot wide open 3 point shots.
On this team, his + / - is not because of what he does on the offensive or defensive possessions.
lol.
this white guy would rather see as little of Bonner as possible on the court during the Spurs games.
same with Finely.
Yes but when has he hit a big shot in a game that counts late in the year? I would take 1/4 of the year over 100% all the time and shrivel up like a slug in beer when it counts. Atleast that 1/4 is later and not the early part or middle of the year like Bonner. Some have it all year or most but dissapear late, I want the one who has that extra gear when it counts. They were both role players anyways, Horry a good defender and very clutch, Bonner not a good defender but very good shooter when it doesn't really matter much. Bonner has to hit a big shot before I like him.
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