In my opinion, an improved Udoka.
Last edited by Tito_Trinidad; 11-28-2009 at 08:38 AM.
I think thats a pretty good comparison. I think his game is an upgrade from udokas in pretty much every way. when we first got ime he might have been a little more consistent from 3 pt land but bogans is much better at putting the ball on the floor and taking it to the rim. defensively bogans seems a little quicker than udoka but is still no bruce bowen.
Bogans is much better than Udoka
Udoka was terrible last season on both ends
Agreed. Bogans is much, much better than Udoka, on both ends.
I only wish that Bogans wouldn've been afforded the benefit of playing a year or two with the great Bruce Bowen - as Udoka was able to do.
Udoka was very productive his first year as a spur and again in the new orleans series in 08. I agree he was awful last year and i would take bogans in a heartbeat but overall out of udokas career here he played well at certain times.... 13 games into the season is a little quick to pull the trigger about bogans. he is still un proven and is shooting horrendous from 3 lately.
Bogans is a good defender and a mediocre 3pt shooter (35%)
Bowen was a great defender that could defend 1-4 and an excellent 3pt shooter at 40%
I knew Bruce Bowen ... Mr. Bogans, you're no Bruce Bowen.
bogans is shooting under 27% from 3 so far this year. 8-30
He isnt THAT much better than Ime was (especially his first year) although his arsenal of offensive moves are a lot better than those of bruce and ime. he is definitely no bruce bowen on D.
Am I the only one who thinks Bogans looks like Chauncey Billups when you watch the game on a small screen tv??
Bogans is laterally quicker than Udoka, ridiculously so. That was always Ime's weak spot. Bogans is also a Manu class rebounder on the wing. He's averaging 2.5 in 18 minutes. Bruce's avg for his career was 2.8 in 28 minutes.
If Bogans can give us half of what Bruce did, then we will be a whole lot better than last year... and that's all you can ask for right now...
Sample size is too small. As it was with Mason earlier in the year. By February his percentage should be back up to close to his career average. IMO
When playing the garbage 2k10, RJeff looks like Bowen and Blair looks like Finley. Obviously in a small TV
You need a bigger TV sir...
Why does he have to be like one or the other? He's his own player - a tough nosed defender with a limited outside shot, good rebounding ability, and a decent ability to put the ball on the floor and get into the lane.
I think he's Keith Bogans.
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im still looking to upgrade.... cant i just borrow yours?
cmon though. dude looks like billups.
whats going on for tonight? we all hanging out or what?
No one is the next Bowen. But, Bogans has a lot of potential...he really needs to start hitting his shots with some consistency. If he can do that, I think the comparison will be a lot more towards Bowen.
He's somewhere imbetween.
We'll never have another Bruce Bowen. Bogans is a solid defender, but I don't just sit there and watch him lock down his defender like you could with Bowen. I'd also much rather have Bruce spotting up from the corner, despite the fact that Bogans brings a little bit more variety to his offense.
On the other hand, Udoka was a disappointment. He was constantly out of place on the court, and seemed to drag his whole game down if he wasn't making shots (which was fairly commonplace). You could just see the team fall into a funk when he was on the floor.
He is the next dirty defensive player in a long line of dirty defensive players.
He is in between. Bogans is much better than Udoka, but he isn't as great a defender as Bowen. Bowen could guard 1-4. He guarded guys from Steve Nash to Dirk. Bogans can't do that.
But Bogans is a great player on our Team.
i've said it before, but i think bogans will consistently give the Spurs what they got from Udoka when he was his absolute best.
remember that there were times (i.e. Hornets series) where Udoka played well for the club. the problem was that he couldn't consistently sustain it. and once kobe punked him during the 3rd quarter of game 1 of the following series, it was all but over for him as a spur.
Bogans is just about what we hoped Ime would be; no, he's not the next Bowen.
He's roughly the same size, he rebounds the position similarly, he's a physical son , and he's a professional through-and-through.
Ime was a more gifted passer but Bogans is a better attacker of the basket in this system and, more importantly, possesses the foot-speed to defend on the perimeter against much quicker players.
Yeah, I've made mention of that on more than one occasion. He's a 6-5 version of Billups physically in the way he's shaped and proportioned; it has nothing to do with facial features.
Trade Bogans and stuff for Battier
With that said, he's not even close to Bowen right now, but better then Udoka. So I guess that answers your question
A load better than udoka but not bowen
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