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    BLACK MAMBA & TRU WARIER. j-money24's Avatar
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    Rockets Fans, if Artest was a ballhog last year for you guys. How about Ariza???
    Averaging 18 points on 17 shots attempts per game and shooting a miserable 38% from the field. While Artest playing his role and fitting perfectly with this Laker team, and shutting down the other team's best player and i still see idiots saying Ariza>Artest.

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    ariza is shooting horribly this season, but rockets were stupid to make him a go to scorer.

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    NB:lol Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_ Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_Lu ck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fa kers_ 21_Blessings's Avatar
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    Hope you enjoyed your second round exit Rocket fan. Because that's not happening again without Ron.

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    I Feel You Def Rowe's Avatar
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    ariza is shooting horribly this season, but rockets were stupid to make him a go to scorer.
    Exactly, the guys a role player that moves well without the ball.

    Weren't there a lot of Rox fans talking about "you'll see, Ariza is way better than Ron Artest!" like a month ago?

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    Believe. all_heart's Avatar
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    Ariza>Artest especially over the long haul. You guys are forgetting what Ariza did for you last playoffs.. He's not a go to guy yet, but he's a great role player/defender that really worked for the Lakers last year.

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    Veteran Indazone's Avatar
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    Ariza will never be a go to guy. I have seen him play enough games to know he can't put the ball in the hole with any consistancy. The Lakers were using him perfectly off the bench. Artest at least brings the defense. Both Ariza/Artest are streaky horrible shooters but at least Artest is a bit more consistant and brings an at ude with him. Ariza is another word for big skinny gangly wannabe.

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    Veteran Indazone's Avatar
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    In fact, if the Rockets want to give a guy a green light, they should start Landry and give that guy the green light.

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    Well, if they had Yao healthy, Ariza wouldn't have to be the #1 option. And, if T-Mac returns, he won't be. It's not like the Rockets paid Ariza max money or even anywhere close to max money. They got him at the MLE. Still a good deal, imo, especially for duration of his contract. Artest fits fine in LA, but he's better with the Lakers than he would be having to carry the Rockets team. Artest wouldn't be doing much better if at all if he were still with the Rockets.

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    Well, if they had Yao healthy, Ariza wouldn't have to be the #1 option. And, if T-Mac returns, he won't be. It's not like the Rockets paid Ariza max money or even anywhere close to max money. They got him at the MLE. Still a good deal, imo, especially for duration of his contract. Artest fits fine in LA, but he's better with the Lakers than he would be having to carry the Rockets team. Artest wouldn't be doing much better if at all if he were still with the Rockets.
    Yeah, & IF Joe Dumars could pry his head twixt the cheeks of his ass you wouldn't have a room for yerselves just down the way.

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    Dragon style JamStone's Avatar
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    Cool, Cul.

    Is there a Boston Celtic's messageboard where Laker fans have their own section called "Daddy's es?"

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    Cool, Cul.

    Is there a Boston Celtic's messageboard where Laker fans have their own section called "Daddy's es?"
    Nope, just the one here for you guys, courtesy of the Spurs.

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    Veteran Indazone's Avatar
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    Face it, Ariza is not a go to guy. He's a role player. Perhaps a bust at that.

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    Get Sarver out!!!! pauls931's Avatar
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    You have to be careful trading for role players from elite teams. Much of the time they're a product of the system or negligence of defenses having to worry about core players on the team. Think Steve Kerr, Shawn Marion, Tony Kukoc, etc...

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    I don't believe shit JJ Hickson's Avatar
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    Nope, just the one here for you guys, courtesy of the Spurs.


    I've never seen culburn own somebody like that.

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    Exactly..when ariza wasn't on the court with Kobe & Pau he was just an average player..he hustled a lot & was good for the Lakers at causing turnovers on defense. he can't dribble & LA never needed him to create his own shot so most of his points came off wide open shots or dunks.

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    Face it, Ariza is not a go to guy. He's a role player.
    No ing . Tell us something we didn't know for years.

    Perhaps a bust at that.
    A bust because the franchise is forcing him to carry the team offensively when he's not that type of player?

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    Exactly..when ariza wasn't on the court with Kobe & Pau he was just an average player..he hustled a lot & was good for the Lakers at causing turnovers on defense. he can't dribble & LA never needed him to create his own shot so most of his points came off wide open shots or dunks.
    Nah. Ariza is definitely an elite roleplayer. That's far from average.

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    I don't know what the kind of expectations you thought us Rockets fans had (at least not the stupid ones), but for $5.5 mil a year, we were in no way expecting anything other than a good role player who plays hard. Which is exactly what we have.

    We have the guy locked up for 5 years. The plan is to have a championship caliber roster in that time, with Ariza playing a nice role in it. Artest is older and stupid as . He did not fit with the plan, as anyone in the world could figure out. We have a young core with Yao coming back next year, and the highest paid player in the NBA expiring just in time for the biggest free agency offseason in the history of the league.

    If you'd like to know why he's shooting like he is, take a look at the (active) roster. Would he be taking the same amount of shots with Yao and Tracy on the team? NO. Would he be taking the same quality shots with Yao and Tracy on the team? NO. He would be benefiting greatly from the pressure taken off with our stars on the court, just look at his time with the Lakers.

    Regardless of all the bull , I still think Trevor is playing better than his contract, and I enjoy watching him play. There's no way I'd take Artest back over him.
    Last edited by Kai; 11-28-2009 at 08:12 PM.

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    Lol butt hurt lakers fans
    Lol rapist

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    I have no expectations of him other than a role player. Never did.

    That being said, no way should he be getting starter minutes over Landry. He shouldn't be jacking up that many shots. In fact Adleman needs to make some changes and rein him in.

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    In Dirk We Trust sribb43's Avatar
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    He played with Kobe to much....if tmac and Yao were ever healthy ( ) he would be a great complimentary piece but he never will so it was a wasted signing IMO

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    He played with Kobe to much....if tmac and Yao were ever healthy ( ) he would be a great complimentary piece but he never will so it was a wasted signing IMO
    Not really. He'll replace Battier.

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    T-Mac is T-Mac but I'd take him as the go to player over Ariza. Any Rocket fan declaring him a bust is re ed. IMO he's done pretty good job being a player he's never been.

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    hold mah dick! duhoh's Avatar
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    Nope, just the one here for you guys, courtesy of the Spurs.

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    IMO he's done pretty good job being a player he's never been.
    & he's happier than a pig in . Shootin' whenever he gets a mind to. It's like intramural basketball for him with a grand stipend every two weeks.

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