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Ariza has the second biggest paycheck on the team that plays. And Shane doesn't shoot a lot.
So If Ariza shouldn't shoot that much, who should?
Ariza has the second biggest paycheck on the team that plays. And Shane doesn't shoot a lot.
So If Ariza shouldn't shoot that much, who should?
Finally a good one from Culburn
All these Laker fans tin on Ariza are ridiculous. If Ariza traded spots, Laker fans would be slobbering all over his knob! The biggest reason IMO that LA was better off w/Ariza than Artest is that at least Ariza could come off the bench for Kobe, Kobe has no half-decent/legitimate backup 2 guard that can sub for him... Kobe is going to get his ass tired out or hurt by playoffs, it's a real possibility considering all the minutes he's logged the past 2 years.
Not long ago these same laker fans were touting ariza as the next coming of scottie pippen. Now he's a bust?Finally a good one from Culburn
All these Laker fans tin on Ariza are ridiculous. If Ariza traded spots, Laker fans would be slobbering all over his knob! The biggest reason IMO that LA was better off w/Ariza than Artest is that at least Ariza could come off the bench for Kobe, Kobe has no half-decent/legitimate backup 2 guard that can sub for him... Kobe is going to get his ass tired out or hurt by playoffs, it's a real possibility considering all the minutes he's logged the past 2 years.
A constant diet of 6 for 21 will do that.Not long ago these same laker fans were touting ariza as the next coming of scottie pippen. Now he's a bust?
Lakers got the better end of the deal with this trade.
Laker Ron's still playing like an elite defender while keeping the team from fooling around. Can't wait to see the job Ron does on Pierce and LeBron. Ron's far more talented than Ariza.
The Rockets also got a good deal so I suppose both sides are quite happy.
they didnt get ariza for this yr. if they did they are stupid they are banking on the fact he is young and should improve. lakers are all about now. in 5 yrs sure ariza at 30 better than 35 yr old artest but today artest>> ariza
bro. ariza isnt a scrub. he single-handedly help us seal two playoff wins. He's the real deal. He's just not a volume scorer that the rockets are trying to make him out to be. He's a great defensive player who can hit the stand still 3 or get out in the open court. He's not the type of player who handles the ball in offensive sets.
When did Marion ever play for an elite team? The Heat were way past their le when they traded for him.
Good stuff from Ron, my boy Lamar's gotta pick up on Ron's example:
Defensively, Artest has been fine. He recently said he was playing the best basketball of his 11-year career. He credited Bryant.
"Kobe gets up for everybody. He's actually making me a better player," Artest said. "I feel like I'm better now than I was ever. He's just always going for blood. And I learned that now. That's what I've been doing now when I'm out there."
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-...,3214692.story
I think part of the arrangement for Ariza to Houston was to be "featured on offense". Rockets are holding up thier end of the deal, because theres not alot else going on this year. Brooks/Scola/Landry should probably get more shots but W/E. Its all about development this year, so Ariza can shoot till his arms fall off. The better offensive game he develops this year, the better the Rockets will be next year. He really needs to learn how to draw fouls when he drives.
Still think the swap was beneficial for both teams, but only time will tell.
Yes. Absolutely dead on accurate.
Exactly.. a Laker fan gets it!
Yea, Ron will foul out in 15 minutes.. He can't hold Lebron, he's much too fast for Ron. He'll slow down Pierce but not much, Celtics know how to get him open.
I wouldn't believe every word that comes out of Crazy Ron's mouth!
He's got his head so far up Kobe's ass he can't think straight any more, but he never did anyway!
Ariza is being groomed to take Battier's spot eventually. He's trying to do too much out there and his handles don't permit him to. With Artest you know every team he goes to has the 1 year honeymoon, after that he's gonna start ing up, that's a fact. Also he looks a lot better out there because he doesn't have to defend quick guards anymore like he did here, and playing with Kobe making everyone look better than they are anyways.
It's funny cause you're implying the Suns were never an elite team how clever
I would never clown a former Laker. In my eyes, Ariza is a Lakers for Life. That said, the Rockets need scoring from someone and they are allowing Ariza to put up a lot of shots. That's not his game. Once Tmac and Yao return and Ariza is able to settle back into his role. He'll be fine.
What the are you guys saying?!?
Ariza is a nice guy and a decent role player that go paid like a decent role player. Rockets seem to have great chemistry and a great coach and once they get "healthy" Yao back they might be a serious contendert.
I don't get why all the moaning and ing. We all know Artest is by default more talented than Ariza but Ariza is surely better in Rocket's long term plans.
Ariza to Rox and Artest to Lakers was good for both teams; Lakers looking at it short term and Rox long term.
No real science and discussion to it...
Is there any way we can send him to dribble camp?
He is riding the short bus of dribbling.
DD
Screwed together egos & feet are leaky vessels upon which to set a sail.
The dude is young. He is only on a MLE contract (NOTE THIS IS THE AVERAGE LEAGUE SALARY). He can always be Battier v2 hitting the open 3's and playing defense.
Wow haha
If only he could do that. Hit the open 3.
You must have not followed Ron guarding Lebron over the course of his career which is understandable, but it just means you are speaking on something you dont know about. Artest has on average has kept Lebron under his career average FG% 3PFG%, Assists, Reb, PPG, Turnovers higher. Not Saying Lebron might not have huge games since hes just that good, but Lakers have the best that you can throw at him.
I was happy with Artest from the start. Even when everyone was clowning him for shooting so poorly the first few games of the season he was still playing great defense and making great passes in the offense. And now hes shooting the ball well and its climbing with all the open shots he gets right now its at .45% from the field .38% from the 3 point line. Obviously there is alot to gain when you play with such great players that can demand double teams.
I love Ariza I wanted him signed before Lamar before I knew Artest was even available. Hes a young athletic, hustle guy that was improving his skills before our eyes. Its nice for Ariza to get the time and opportunity to improve. Obviously he isnt a great go to scorer. At least not yet. Rockets dont have that many choices right now for that job.
In terms of who got the better of the switch. I always thought Rockets made the right choice letting Artest go regardless if they signed Ariza or not. Once Yao was out and Tmac still recovering whats the point in a older Artest who you would had to pay more then the Lakers paid to keep. Artest only signed with the Lakers for the MLE because the Rockets decided agaisnt resigning him for more. Ariza will have a year to get better for once Yao gets back. And Ariza takes a lesser cap hit then if they would have resigned Artest to what he wanted so they might be able to bring more in.
As for the Lakers. Lakers could have won another Championship with Ariza. Lakers can with another Championship with Artest. They can lose with either. In the now I think Lakers have a better chance with Artest. I love how Artest boxes out guys every time which ive seen Lakers including Ariza not do. And when Ron Artest boxes you out you are gonna feel it. From what ive seen Artest is definitely the better defender the way Artest has played it might not be close in terms of one on one defense. In terms of steals Ariza definitely has the lead there.
Shooting I definitely like Artest's shooting not sure where they stand. Ariza improved alot at the end of last season when he got wide open shots im sure he worked on it all summer. Artest is starting to get in a rhythm now. Obviously now Artest is getting the benefit of the open looks while Ariza may or may not be havent seen many Rockets games. Artest really hasn't got a chance to use his post game but the few times he has its been effective. Ariza didn't have one here he posted up a few times but not really anything to establish any post game with the Lakers.
I never knew Artest was as great of a passer as hes shown so far with the Lakers definitely way ahead of Ariza when Ariza was a Laker, but as a Rocket not sure how much hes improved I saw him makes some nice passes when he played against the lakers this season so he might have upped his game in that category as well. Ariza has and will always have a major advantage attacking the rim with athleticism. Artest can use his body better for contact but has no hops at all. While Ariza can jump out of a gym and posterize people. Thats definitely a different dimension to a game Ariza brings.
Mainly my comparisons are from Ariza as I knew him I know hes gonna improve. As for now and the next 2 to 4 years I think Artest gives the Lakers potentially a better more skilled player. Most knocks on him is his mental state. Definitely a decent point, but im fine with him being wacky because thats him that isnt going to change. I dont expect a big blow out from him to where it would really hurt the team.
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