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wins are wins in the regular season. getting the most wins come end of the regular season is what matters.
however wins against the elite are down to just bragging rights
Spurs have one 5 straight games yes, but they haven't really beaten a good team. IMO the best team they beat is a tie between houston and milwaukee. Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining, i'm happy and i realize that Spurs need wins regardless of who they beat. It just doesn't feel as good as it could.
hopefully a win at home to boston will remedy this. anybody else feel like i do
wins are wins in the regular season. getting the most wins come end of the regular season is what matters.
however wins against the elite are down to just bragging rights
i'm surprised i'm doing this...but................................+1
The issue of Spur victories is not who you beat, but how you beat them that is important. The game against Houston was an ugly defensive game. Just how we like it. It was Spurs ball to the core. TP against Philly really showed me something as he worked his tail off to get everyone involved. He may just become that high assist PG, yet.
ummm okay. i realize that, but you feel better about wins when they're against great teams
I do feel that 2 of the wins might have been were we lucked out from how bad we played in them. However a win is a win and we really wont know how well we fair untill the boston game where we Finnaly play a "REAL" opponent. If we turn the ball over like we have been doing I don't believe an Elite team such as boston will be as forgiving for us as these scrub teams have.
Getting tiered of seeing us beating up crappy teams.
This streak is fine* as Pop seemingly has solidified in his minds a decent starting lineup + with Manu health concerns abating; and when Spurs have won (as they will) 15-20 or so going into January - all the Legler and other B.S.'ers out there ranting about an unmotivated old or chronically injured team missing playoffs and other concerns = will be history.
It also won me two bets in LV!
I only care about wins against elite teams in April-June.
Except Dallas and LA. It is always nice to beat either of those two teams.
Yeah of course, they do sometimes have alot of bareing on what will happen in the playoffs. Just look at Dallas/GS a few years back, Magic/Cavs from last year....however Lakers lost both games to Orlando last year but beat them in 5 in the playoffs.
I will say this though...the Lakers had their way with every elite team in the regular season last year apart from Orlando and went on to win the le...it can be a factor but getting the most wins is what matters. Although that didn't workout well for the Cavs last year and even though they had the most wins they had a poor record against the elite.
so in a way it does matter but still think the most wins means more sometimes as having that possible game 7 over the rest of the elite is key.
i couldn't agree more.
i mean, as spurs fans, we used to care only about PO because we knew our team was right there, with the best teams if not above.
Lately, since our last trophy, it seems that every big game against the very best teams, we are the challenger, not the favorite.
we always were underdogs in the media, but not for spurs fans or true bball fans. lately, it has changed, and i have to honestly admit that most of the times, i'm now fearing a loss against those big teams (Boston, LA........) and very happy (and somewhat surprised) when we get a win.
don't know what is our record against those very best teams for the last two seasons. but i'll take those wins with pleasure. I want to see where my team belongs quickly.
Winning against a good team versus a bad team doesn't feel any different. Now losing to a bad team - that is frustrating, because you ought to beat them. But at this point in the season, I'm just looking for the pieces to come together. I care more about good play in a loss than bad play in a win. I didn't mind the Dallas game, because I was really pleased with the game play in the fourth and coming back to force OT in a game they had no business possibly winning. I liked their defense. Putting those pieces together to make a good team is what I'm interested in right now.
Having a winning record is nice though, don't get me wrong.
So important, I felt I needed to say it twice.
But then I changed my mind.
Lakerfan is right about this one. Win is a win right now.
yah, it's just a confidence thing really. i'd be just as happy if the spurs beat UCLA Bruins (i should hope they beat a college team). i'll just be a little more confident when the spurs beat the celtics.... or LAKERS!
You can only play the games that are on the schedule.
After a 3-game losing streak, this 5-game winning streak feels great. We don't look like world beaters yet by any means, but we are starting to see progress and have managed to somewhat right the ship.
If the Spurs can manage to tack on a win against Boston, I think that will raise the hype on this streak significantly.
oh yah, and duncan even said all they want is to get a streak going. and you're right, sometimes confidence in a team is built on beating up on losing teams. i agree with anyone saying "a win is a win" but as a fan, you gain more confidence with big wins than sliding past the crappy teams.
5 wins is 5 wins...especially with the way we started. I don't really put much stock in the Boston game. I'd love to win it, but we are still very much a work in progress. I'd give us about a 40% chance of winning against Boston right now. IMO, this team is not ready to beat elite teams....yet.
9-6 > 4-6
that's what i said in my post above. for how long are we feeling that way ? too long IMO. i want to feel like the Spurs are the favorite every game again.
I think what you mean to say is that as a fan you (or if you are writing first person, 'I') gain more confidence.
I don't feel the same way. Of course I want to beat elite teams, and playing elite teams is definitely used as a yardstick to evaluate where they are, but I'm not going to be terribly concerned with any particular win or loss in November/December.
I agree with benefactor - wins are wins / still a work in progress / would love a win against Boston but the Spurs aren't consistent yet. When the Spurs play consistently on both ends then I'll believe they have become the elite team we all think they will be. Just not there yet.
Yes it feels just like it should. not like the spurs control the schedule... we happened to have 5 games in a row against mediocre teams and we won all 5 just like we were supposed to. so it feels perfectly fine.
I do feel that 2 of the wins might have been were we lucked out from how bad we played in them. However a win is a win and we really wont know how well we fair untill the boston game where we Finnaly play a "REAL" opponent. If we turn the ball over like we have been doing I don't believe an Elite team such as boston will be as forgiving for us as these scrub teams have.
Getting tiered of seeing us beating up crappy teams.
i like the streak as well, but i second this because they will capitalize on every turn over and execute. pop has to really point out turnovers or single out the players that are consistently t/o prone. another 15 t/o game to the celtics will not be pretty
Yeah...me too. We'll get there. As I said in another thread, December looks to be a good month to establish some rhythm. Let's see where they are after that.
Cant get too caught up in elite matchups in the regular season. These we were 5 games we all felt we "should" win, and its important to do so. The 82 game season has way more "should" win games than elite matchups. Handle your business with the "should" wins and you'll have a good record and a decent playoff seed. Besides, wins against the elite teams now really dont mean much other than bragging rights. A longer multiple game playoff series will determine the BEST teams.
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