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So, these aliens have the technology for interstellar travel, but they choose to directly communicate with these Bulgarian scientists by trampling down wheat.
Theres so much secret knowledge that we dont know, this wouldnt suprise me one bit....
So, these aliens have the technology for interstellar travel, but they choose to directly communicate with these Bulgarian scientists by trampling down wheat.
Matt Bonner has been in contact with these aliens and they have found a way to help him.
IF the aliens decide to reveal themselves, it would be one of the most historic event to ever happen.
President Obama may be planning to use his acceptance of the Nobel Peace Prize as the global forum from which he will announce the existence of Aliens/Extraterrestrials. Michael E. Salla, Ph.D-Honolulu Exopolitics Examiner, claims that an official announcement by the Obama administration disclosing the reality of extraterrestrial life is imminent.
According to him- 'Obama will travel to Oslo on December 10 to receive the Prize. His upcoming Oslo speech and enhanced international status give Obama the ideal opportunity to announce to the world the most ground breaking peace initiative of all time. The announcement of intelligent extraterrestrial life visiting Earth and the need to enter into peaceful relations with them."
Way to go out on a limb, there.
It's highly improbable aliens exist in the galaxy, especially considering we're here which means there's less chance that another lifeform could have risen so close. and since you can't go faster than the speed of the light, you can't travel between galaxies.
Humanity will never find aliens, not intelligible ones, and they will never find us.
You dont have to go faster than light to travel to another galaxy.
Check the Folding Space theory.
Just because we cant do it, doesnt mean its impossible.
This Obama thing happened with Clinton and the first Bush and Reagan and especially Carter. Nothing new here. They're declassifying a lot of but don't expect an announcement. There is zero benefit to an announcement. Leak the info slowly and allow society to digest the reality of it all over a few decades.
It's a proven fact of mathematics that you can't travel faster than light. It's impossible, period. At least in this universe.
Folding space to travel to another galaxy? Yeah, let me know when they have 1/10 of the technology required to legitimately pull it off with humans. It'll never happen.
And thanks for stating the obvious fact that you don't have to travel faster than light to go to another galaxy. Surviving long enough to reach the next galaxy must be of no consequence to you.
It may be impossible for us to achieve this type of travel now but at one point it was "mathematically" impossible to go over 35 mph. You can't assume that other worlds are bound by the same laws of physics or lack of technology that we are.
zosa is afraid it would blow baby jesus out of the water.
saying it was ever mathematically impossible to go over 35mph is one of the most stupid remarks I've ever heard.
I was reaching for a bad analogy to display the very ing idiocy of
"It's a proven fact of mathematics that you can't travel faster than light. It's impossible, period. At least in this universe."
You don't get sarcasm do you?
The point is that your statement makes no sense. Its arrogant, presumptuous and typical of the egotistical self centered way our race thinks.
That's me, constantly professing Christianity and especially jesus at all hours. Donate to my church in fact. I'm the male version of angel luv i'm so outright jesus-lubbin.
Bull has been called.
all of this is required to be "over the top", right?
It's not arrogant or presumptuous. Einstein provides, mathematically, a very basic and near 100% accepted theory that nothing can move faster than the speed of light.
Rephrase your question.
Has just gone into the signature. Good call on that one. I guess cheetahs don't run twice that fast all the time, huh?It may be impossible for us to achieve this type of travel now but at one point it was "mathematically" impossible to go over 35 mph.
You displayed your arrogance and ignorance by assuming that everything is bound by the same laws of physics and technology that we are.
There is nothing to "call" beyond that. You're simply assuming that since we can't do it no one can. It would be impossible for you to sufficiently back that up, math or no math you don't have the available scope and/or variables to do it.
I love how you go right to the insult over it. When I simply entered into the discussion fairly and without aggression. Defensive much?
The earth is Flat
No one will need more than 637 kb of memory for a personal computer. -Bill Gates
Transmission of do ents via telephone wires is possible in principle, but the apparatus required is so expensive that it will never become a practical proposition. - Dennis Gabor, British physicist and author of Inventing the Future
There is practically no chance communications space satellites will be used to provide better telephone, telegraph, television, or radio service inside the United States. -T. Craven, FCC Commissioner
Space travel is bunk. -Sir Harold Spencer Jones, Astronomer Royal of the UK
To place a man in a multi-stage rocket and project him into the controlling gravitational field of the moon where the passengers can make scientific observations, perhaps land alive, and then return to earth--all that cons utes a wild dream worthy of Jules Verne. I am bold enough to say that such a man-made voyage will never occur regardless of all future advances. - Lee deForest, American radio pioneer and inventor of the vacuum tube
Television won't last. It's a flash in the pan. -Mary Somerville, pioneer of radio educational broadcasts,
What can be more palpably absurd than the prospect held out of locomotives traveling twice as fast as stagecoaches? -The Quarterly Review, March edition, 1825
Rail travel at high speeds is not possible because passengers, unable to breathe, would die of asphyxia. -Dionysius Lardner, Professor of Natural Philosophy and Astronomy at University College, London, and author of The Steam Engine Explained and Illustrated
Dear Mr. President: The canal system of this country is being threatened by a new form of transportation known as 'railroads' ... As you may well know, Mr. President, 'railroad' carriages are pulled at the enormous speed of 15 miles per hour by 'engines' which, in addition to endangering life and limb of assengers, roar and snort their way through the countryside, setting fire to crops, scaring the livestock and frightening women and children. The Almighty certainly never intended that people should travel at such breakneck speed. -Martin Van Buren, Governor of New York
It's a great invention but who would want to use it anyway? -R-- utherford B. Hayes, U.S. President, after a demonstration of Alexander Bell's telephone
We are probably nearing the limit of all we can know about astronomy. -Simon Newcomb, Canadian-born American astronomer
The more important fundamental laws and facts of physical science have all been discovered, and these are now so firmly established that the possibility of their ever being supplanted in consequence of new discoveries is exceedingly remote.... Our future discoveries must be looked for in the sixth place of decimals -Albert. A. Michelson, German-born American physicist, 1894
It is apparent to me that the possibilities of the aeroplane, which two or three years ago were thought to hold the solution to the [flying machine] problem, have been exhausted, and that we must turn elsewhere. -Thomas Edison, American inventor
Heavier-than-air flying machines are impossible. -Lord Kelvin, British mathematician and physicist, president of the British Royal Society, 1895
Man will not fly for 50 years. -Wilbur Wright, American aviation pioneer, to brother Orville, after a disappointing flying experiment, 1901
(their first successful flight was in 1903)
The horse is here to stay, the automobile is only a fad. -Advice of President of Michigan Savings Bank to Horace Rackham, lawyer for
Henry Ford, 1903
(Rackham ignored the advice and invested $5000 in Ford stock, selling it later
for $12.5 million)
Shall I continue? there are tons more where those came from.
There is not the slightest indication that nuclear energy will ever be obtainable. It would mean the atom would have to be shattered at will - Albert Einstein, German-born American physicist, 1932
There's actually a band of solar systems in our general area that are the appropriate distance from the center of the galaxy where life could theoretically exist. They're still light years away, but the ideas behind folding space sound legit. Given how far technology has come the last 50 years, I wouldn't be surprised if we figured it out within the next century. I also don't buy the idea that the creation of life is a rare occurrence. All you need is water, a reducing atmosphere, thermal vents, and a meteorite.
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Just at the beginning of 2009
http://www.livescience.com/strangene...ion-atoms.html
Teleportation Milestone Achieved
Scientists have come a bit closer to achieving the "Star Trek" feat of teleportation. No one is galaxy-hopping, or even beaming people around, but for the first time, information has been teleported between two separate atoms across a distance of a meter — about a yard.
This is a significant milestone in a field known as quantum information processing, said Christopher Monroe of the Joint Quantum Ins ute at the University of Maryland, who led the effort.
Teleportation is one of nature's most mysterious forms of transport: Quantum information, such as the spin of a particle or the polarization of a photon, is transferred from one place to another, without traveling through any physical medium. It has previously been achieved between photons (a unit, or quantum, of electromagnetic radiation, such as light) over very large distances, between photons and ensembles of atoms, and between two nearby atoms through the intermediary action of a third.
None of those, however, provides a feasible means of holding and managing quantum information over long distances.
Now the JQI team, along with colleagues at the University of Michigan, has succeeded in teleporting a quantum state directly from one atom to another over a meter. That capability is necessary for workable quantum information systems because they will require memory storage at both the sending and receiving ends of the transmission.
In the Jan. 23 issue of the journal Science, the scientists report that, by using their protocol, atom-to-atom teleported information can be recovered with perfect accuracy about 90 percent of the time — and that figure can be improved.
"Our system has the potential to form the basis for a large-scale 'quantum repeater' that can network quantum memories over vast distances," Monroe said. "Moreover, our methods can be used in conjunction with quantum bit operations to create a key component needed for quantum computation."
A quantum computer could perform certain tasks, such as encryption-related calculations and searches of giant databases, considerably faster than conventional machines. The effort to devise a working model is a matter of intense interest worldwide.
Teleportation and entanglement
Physicist Richard Feynman is quoted as having said that "if you think you understand quantum mechanics, you don't understands quantum mechanics." Or sometimes he is cited thusly: "I think I can safely say that nobody understand quantum mechanics."
Nonetheless, here is how the University of Maryland describes Monroe's work.
Teleportation works because of a remarkable quantum phenomenon called entanglement which only occurs on the atomic and subatomic scale. Once two objects are put in an entangled state, their properties are inextricably entwined. Although those properties are inherently unknowable until a measurement is made, measuring either one of the objects instantly determines the characteristics of the other, no matter how far apart they are.
The JQI team set out to entangle the quantum states of two individual ytterbium ions so that information embodied in the condition of one could be teleported to the other. Each ion was isolated in a separate high-vacuum trap, suspended in an invisible cage of electromagnetic fields and surrounded by metal electrodes.
The researchers identified two readily discernible ground (lowest energy) states of the ions that would serve as the alternative "bit" values of an atomic quantum bit, or qubit.
Conventional electronic bits (short for binary digits), such as those in a personal computer, are always in one of two states: off or on, 0 or 1, high or low voltage, etc. Quantum bits, however, can be in some combination, called a "superposition," of both states at the same time, like a coin that is simultaneously heads and tails — until a measurement is made. It is this phenomenon that gives quantum computation its extraordinary power.
Laser pulse initiates process
At the start of the experimental process, each ion (designated A and B) is initialized in a given ground state.
Then ion A is irradiated with a specially tailored microwave burst from one of its cage electrodes, placing the ion in some desired superposition of the two qubit states — in effect "writing" into "memory" the information to be teleported.
Immediately thereafter, both ions are excited by a picosecond (one trillionth of a second) laser pulse. The pulse duration is so short that each ion emits only a single photon as it sheds the energy gained by the laser and falls back to one or the other of the two qubit ground states.
Depending on which one it falls into, the ion emits one of two kinds of photons of slightly different wavelengths (designated red and blue) that correspond to the two atomic qubit states. It is the relationship between those photons that will eventually provide the telltale signal that entanglement has occurred.
Beamsplitter encounter
Each emitted photon is captured by a lens, routed to a separate strand of fiber-optic cable, and carried to a 50-50 beamsplitter where it is equally probable for the photon to pass straight through the splitter or to be reflected. On either side of the beamsplitter are detectors that can record the arrival of a single photon.
Before it reaches the beamsplitter, each photon is in an unknowable superposition of states. After encountering the beamsplitter, however, each takes on specific characteristics.
As a result, for each pair of photons, four color combinations are possible — blue-blue, red-red, blue-red and red-blue — as well as one of two polarizations: horizontal or vertical. In nearly all of those variations, the photons either cancel each other out or both end up in the same detector. But there is one — and only one — combination in which both detectors will record a photon at exactly the same time.
In that case, however, it is physically impossible to tell which ion produced which photon because it cannot be known whether the photon arriving at a detector passed through the beamsplitter or was reflected by it.
Thanks to the peculiar laws of quantum mechanics, that inherent uncertainty projects the ions into an entangled state. That is, each ion is in a superposition of the two possible qubit states. The simultaneous detection of photons at the detectors does not occur often, so the laser stimulus and photon emission process has to be repeated many thousands of times per second. But when a photon appears in each detector, it is an unambiguous signature of entanglement between the ions.
When an entangled condition is identified, the scientists immediately take a measurement of ion A. The act of measurement forces it out of superposition and into a definite condition: one of the two qubit states.
But because ion A's state is irreversibly tied to ion B's, the measurement also forces B into the complementary state. Depending on which state ion A is found in, the researchers now know precisely what kind of microwave pulse to apply to ion B in order to recover the exact information that had been written to ion A by the original microwave burst. Doing so results in the accurate teleportation of the information.
Teleportation vs. other communications
What distinguishes this outcome as teleportation, rather than any other form of communication, is that no information pertaining to the original memory actually passes between ion A and ion B. Instead, the information disappears when ion A is measured and reappears when the microwave pulse is applied to ion B.
"One particularly attractive aspect of our method is that it combines the unique advantages of both photons and atoms," says Monroe. "Photons are ideal for transferring information fast over long distances, whereas atoms offer a valuable medium for long-lived quantum memory ... Also, the teleportation of quantum information in this way could form the basis of a new type of quantum internet that could outperform any conventional type of classical network for certain tasks."
The work was supported by the Intelligence Advanced Research Project Activity program under U.S. Army Research Office contract, the National Science Foundation (NSF) Physics at the Information Frontier Program, and the NSF Physics Frontier Center at the Joint Quantum Ins ute.
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