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The double standard is just adorable. Kobe is ridiculed for 3 years running because Daddy caught a ringer in south Florida, but, this little ringless pissant gets a free ride all the way to the bitter end.
Yep
His 2001 MVP season was the stuff of legends
The double standard is just adorable. Kobe is ridiculed for 3 years running because Daddy caught a ringer in south Florida, but, this little ringless pissant gets a free ride all the way to the bitter end.
So cubby ya know better that the Lakers would be 1st round losers without Gasol.
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Iverson has ed and moaned about coming off from the bench during his last two stops, and people still think he'd be willing to come off the bench for another team? Are you kidding me?
Sixers coach downplays reports of Iverson comeback
By Paul J. Weber
If the Philadelphia 76ers are thinking about bringing back Allen Iverson, coach Eddie Jordan says no one has talked to him about it.
Jordan downplayed reports Sunday of Iverson possibly returning to the city where he became an NBA superstar, saying he hasn’t spoken to the recently retired guard and added that the Sixers are not seriously looking at any free agents.
“It’s something that’s probably more in the media than it actually is,” Jordan said. “We’re just going about our daily operation of practicing and trying to win a game. But certainly I have not talked to anybody about Allen Iverson.”
When Iverson announced his plans to retire earlier this week, his statement hardly sounded like his mind was made up. Saying there is “a whole lot left in my tank,” Iverson said he felt strongly he could still compete “at the highest level.”
Jordan spoke after shootaround Sunday morning in San Antonio, where the Sixers arrived with a five-game losing streak and point guard Lou Williams expected to be out eight weeks after jaw surgery.
A person with knowledge of the talks told The Associated Press on Saturday that the Sixers were approached about signing Iverson, and that team management had internal discussions about bringing Iverson back to the city where he spent 10-plus seasons.
The person, who spoke on condition of anonymity because talks have not been made public, said Iverson is among the free-agent candidates the Sixers are considering to replace Williams.
Jordan, however, said he doesn’t think the Sixers necessarily need to sign anyone.
He said Philadelphia’s biggest problem isn’t the backcourt but Elton Brand, who has missed consecutive games with a sore right hamstring. The Sixers entered Sunday’s game at 5-11, tied for the third-worst record in the Eastern Conference.
“We have not talked about adding anybody to our team because we still have a good roster,” Jordan said. “We have depth, we have flexibility. Elton’s coming back, and we have guards.”
Rookie Jrue Holiday has started at point guard since Williams went out, and has played nearly as many minutes the past two games as his first 10. Jordan says Holiday, who the Sixers took with the 17th pick in the draft, has shown plenty of promise.
Brand said players have talked about Iverson, and that he would welcome him to the team.
“We have some young talent, but we need wins,” Brand said. “If we were winning, we could kind of test it. But we kind of need to right the ship now, we feel, just for the fans and our own psyche. That may be the issue here.”
Iverson has made it clear he won’t come off the bench. He would start over Holiday for now, but it’s not clear where Iverson would fit in once Williams returns.
Iverson is a 10-time All-Star and was the NBA MVP in 2001, when he led the Sixers to the NBA Finals. Philadelphia traded him to Denver in 2006 and he played for the Nuggets until early last season, when he was traded to Detroit.
Iverson signed with Memphis this season but played only three games before taking a leave of absence to attend to personal matters. He was waived after the two sides agreed to part ways.
Andre Iguodala, the Sixers’ leading scorer, said his focus is more on getting Philadelphia winning again than Iverson possibly coming aboard.
“He’s definitely one of those guys who has proven to be a great scorer in this league and a hard worker,” Iguodala said. “We would welcome anyone who come into our situation, whether it would be him or any other guy.”
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=470118976ers meet with Iverson
Philadelphia 76ers coach Eddie Jordan and general manager Ed Stefanski had a two-hour meeting in Dallas on Monday with free-agent guard Allen Iverson before the team's game against the Mavericks.
The team confirmed the face-to-face meeting with Iverson, agent Leon Rose and Iverson's longtime business manager Gary Moore.
No firm decision on signing Iverson was expected before the game Monday night.
Iverson is among the free-agent candidates the Sixers are considering to replace injured point guard Lou Williams, who's expected to miss eight weeks after jaw surgery.
Iverson announced his retirement last week after an ill-fated stint with the Memphis Grizzlies. The 10-time All-Star was NBA MVP in 2001 when he led the Sixers to the NBA Finals.
Damn, leave the guy alone already. He finally went away, now they want him back.
Allen Iverson, Sixers Meet to Discuss Reunion
SportingNews
There is actual, real news from the parties involved on the Allen Iverson front today. The Sixers and Iverson met today in Dallas to discuss a possible return to the team. More on the meeting, directly from Sixers GM Ed Stefanski:
The meeting lasted approximately two hours and covered a variety of topics, all of which we would prefer to keep between the team and Allen.
The meeting was attended by Allen, his agent Leon Rose and his personal manager Gary Moore, along with 76ers Senior Vice President/Assistant General Manager Tony DiLeo, Head Coach Eddie Jordan, Assistant Coach Aaron McKie and me.
At this time, both parties remain non-committal regarding a final decision and we will continue to discuss internally whether or not to pursue this course.
Hardly sounds like they’re on the doorstep of a deal, but that a meeting took place signals some obvious level of interest in the city Iverson once called home. More on this one as it develops.
Since when can a player "retire" to get out of one team, then go sign with another team two weeks later? Why aren't players doing this all the time if they are stuck with a deal they don't like?
Either this whole thing reeks of collusion, or Memphis is just kicking itself in the nuts again. They need to move that god-forsaken franchise to Seattle or something.
The same reason Duncan can switch position designation to suit his Sleep Worry Number.
tee, hee.
Players can do that. But most of the time players that are unhappy are the big dollar players and they won't accept a really low buyout in order to go to a team they like.
Gotcha. I wasn't aware they had already agreed to buy him out, but looks like they agreed on the remainder for 3 million dollars.
In the big picture, when a guy that nobody even wants is getting paid 3 million dollars for 3 games of basketball, makes the whole damn system seem a little screwy. I understand the demand for talent and compe ive market and all but seriously...this guy is the most expensive hot potato I've ever seen.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4702589Sources: Sixers closer to Answer
Allen Iverson could be back in a Philadelphia 76ers uniform as early as next Monday night.
Two sources close to the situation told ESPN.com that the Sixers are indeed targeting Monday's home game against the Denver Nuggets -- another of Iverson's former teams -- if they go forward with what appears to be a growing intent to bring back their controversial franchise icon.
After club officials met face-to-face with Iverson and his representatives for nearly two hours Monday before Philadelphia's 104-102 loss to the Dallas Mavericks, three of the organization's key figures -- Sixers coach Eddie Jordan, general manager Ed Stefanski and Comcast-Spectacor chairman Ed Snider -- all insisted publicly that no firm decision has been made on re-signing Iverson for the rest of the season.
But sources stressed to ESPN.com that plans behind the scenes have progressed to a level where Iverson's return is now regarded by both sides as far more likely than not. Although it remains unclear whether Iverson has the leverage to command anything more than a pro-rated share of the $1.3 million veterans' minimum, all indications late Monday suggested that only an unforeseen about-face by the Sixers could prevent Iverson from formally rejoining them by week's end.
One source said that the team has already made tentative plans to send assistant coach and former Iverson teammate Aaron McKie home from the Sixers' current road trip to meet Iverson in Philadelphia later this week and work him out to ensure Iverson's readiness for the Denver game. The Sixers play Thursday in Oklahoma City and Saturday in Charlotte before returning to Philadelphia.
Although another team insider cautioned that no deal with Iverson should be considered done until it's official -- especially after the New York Knicks seemed to get just as close to signing Iverson earlier this month before electing to back out at the 11th hour -- there was an unquestioned sense of inevitability in the locker room in Dallas that Iverson will soon be a Sixer again.
"No doubt he's coming back," one source said.
Said Sixers reserve guard Royal Ivey: "He's a Hall of Fame-type player. He's a great leader. I think he'd help us if he decided to come back. He's a great contributor. I'd like to have him as a teammate. It's that clear and simple.''
The prospect of a reunion -- which seemed unfathomable in the wake of Iverson's request to be traded early in the 2006-07 season and the deal soon thereafter that sent him to Denver -- gathered steam Monday afternoon when Iverson, agent Leon Rose and longtime business manager Gary Moore met with a four-strong Sixers delegation that included Jordan, Stefanski, McKie and assistant general manager Tony DiLeo.
Stefanski said in a statement afterward that both parties remain non-committal about a final decision and that the Sixers "will continue to discuss internally whether or not to pursue this course."
But two of the major hurdles Iverson has to clear to get a second shot with the team that drafted him and launched him into prominence in 1996 were cleared Monday. One of them was the face-to-face sitdown, which Sixers officials considered a must after the acrimonious nature of Iverson's exits in Detroit and Memphis. The other was the blessing of Snider, who said in his own statement that Stefanski has the freedom to sign or pass on Iverson without worrying about any leftover residue from Iverson's departure nearly three years ago.
Snider said: "While nothing has been decided ... I support him and his basketball decisions."
Jordan refused to share specifics about the meeting but said: "All of us liked what [Iverson] talked about today. ... He's a charming individual. It was really good, really intriguing."
Mired at 5-13 after its seventh straight loss, Philadelphia is looking for a guard after losing starter Lou Williams for at least eight weeks with a broken jaw and looking even harder for someone who can generate some buzz to lift the Sixers out of the bottom two in NBA attendance.
The signing would be a gamble nonetheless, given Iverson's well-chronicled refusal to accept anything other than a guaranteed spot in the starting lineup wherever he plays. It's a stance that only one team was willing to ignore last summer when the 34-year-old was a free agent, but Iverson lasted only three games with the Memphis Grizzlies after signing a one-year deal worth $3.1 million.
There are also concerns about what sort of influence Iverson would be on youngsters such as Jrue Holiday, Thaddeus Young and Marreese Speights and whether he will be able to accept a scaled-back role when Williams returns from injury. It's likewise believed that Iverson and Sixers guard Andre Iguodala did not part on the best terms when Iverson headed to Denver, which could have given Philadelphia further pause.
Jordan, though, doesn't sound concerned at all about how much Iverson has left after 13 seasons of pounding. It seems that he, too, paid little attention to the retirement statement Iverson issued on Thanksgiving eve, presumably in frustration after what sources say he believed was a "done deal" with the Knicks fell through.
Asked what Iverson could bring to the Sixers at this stage of his career, Jordan said: "An aggressive scoring mentality. A guy that could take over games. ... He's a guy that's been to the top, a guy that's been to the Finals, a guy that would be an extra weapon on the floor for us."
After Iverson averaged 12.3 points and 3.7 assists in 22.3 minutes per games in his short Memphis stay -- having missed most of training camp with a partially torn hamstring -- his retirement plans were greeted with considerable leaguewide skepticism, largely because Iverson's statement included claims that there is "a whole lot left in my tank" and his strong belief that he "can still compete at the highest level."
Said Jordan: "We'll see what happens in another few days."
That would be funny if Iverson comes back as a Sixer and torches the Nuggets
http://www.philly.com/inquirer/sport...surrender.htmlSigning Iverson would be an act of surrender
By Phil Sheridan
Inquirer Sports Columnist
If the 76ers sign Allen Iverson, they might as well skip ahead a few moves and make him coach and general manager as well.
Just turn the whole franchise over to Iverson, because bringing the former Sixers star back now, after everything that has happened, is acknowledging the failure of Ed Stefanski and, by extension, coach Eddie Jordan.
The logic is pretty simple.
If Stefanski had a plan with a prayer of working, he would not sign Iverson.
If Jordan had any intention of developing a young team to play the game his way, he would not want Iverson.
Ergo, they might as well give Iverson their jobs, as well as the $3 million or so it will take to sign him. Iverson will be deciding how much he plays and with whom, so the Eddies won't be necessary anymore, anyway.
And if this move is being forced on Stefanski and Jordan, well, the prognosis for both men is soggy and grim: They're already dead in the water.
This is a player the rest of the NBA has decided isn't worth the considerable trouble. Iverson - ahem - "retired" last week in a contrived attempt to attract attention to himself. After burning through the patience of franchises in Denver, Detroit, and Memphis, he would be attractive only to two kinds of teams: a championship contender faced with injury at his position (whatever that is) or a hopeless mess.
The Sixers are not a contender.
This is the Buffalo Bills signing Terrell Owens - a cynical move made for the sole purpose of bringing a little attention to a team that has proved itself incapable of earning it the proper way, by winning.
You can see the temptation for the Sixers. Iverson's heyday was this ownership group's heyday. The Sixers were hot. The arena was full. Things seemed a lot more fun and exciting and interesting back then, when Iverson and Larry Brown staged one of the more captivating and successful soap operas in Philadelphia sports history.
But the real reason for all that buzz was that the Sixers were winning. For a stretch, they were a team with a chance to contend for a le. Iverson was one of the best and most exciting players in the league, but he was also the guy who made a le possible. The ultimately fruitless search for the right complementary cast was the story arc that made the whole thing worth caring about.
Now?
Iverson can still run around and take a hundred shots a game and drive recklessly through the big men every now and then. He would still be more fun to watch than Andre Iguodala or, heaven help us, Elton Brand. But there would be no chance of contending with him. Not now. Not here. Not ever again.
As for the idea that he'd bring some excitement and sell tickets, well, let's think that through. Signing Iverson isn't going to help the economy, which is the No. 1 reason most people eliminate luxury items like overpriced basketball tickets from their budget. There might be a brief bump for the same reason people stop on the highway to look at car wrecks, but there won't be sustainable interest until the team wins consistently.
The Sixers weren't drawing at the end of Iverson's tenure here. There's little reason to believe he'll draw fans three seasons later.
But the most hair-raising aspect of all this was in an otherwise benign quote from Sixers rookie Jrue Holiday that appeared in the Daily News.
"I think Lou [Williams], Willie [Green], everybody here that played with him learned something from him," Holiday said. "I think I could learn from him, too."
That word picture should have everyone from Ed Snider to Peter Luukko to the security guard at the locker room door screaming into their pillows. There is nothing they could possibly want Holiday or Marreese Speights or anyone else to learn from Allen Iverson.
He is, or was, a great individual basketball player.
He is, was, and always will be poison in the well for whatever franchise employs him. It has become an easy way to get a laugh - "We talkin' 'bout practice?" - but that episode really did define what's wrong with Iverson. He didn't get it then, and he doesn't get it now. Basketball is a team sport.
So meeting with him in Dallas yesterday was purely for show. Nothing Iverson could say in a two-hour meeting could outweigh what Stefanski and Jordan already know from watching the guy throughout his career. A.I. isn't changing.
There's no point signing him in order to integrate him into a team concept. That ship sailed and sank years ago. To sign him now is to admit utter defeat and desperation.
If Stefanski and Jordan re-sign Iverson, they might as well resign themselves.
Sixers were close to being a great team. Their point differential in their wins was impressive. Not sure why they are sucking this year but bringing Iverson in will help their cause.
Iverson would be great for Philly. He would surely make that team playoff bound.
This would be great for AI, I hope it happens. It's a shame this guy would be remembered as a whiny punk if his career ended right now. He's only 2,000 points behind Greer for Philly's all time best scorer, be great if he was around long enough to get it.
History sides with Iverson in Philly reunion
By Adrian Wojnarowski
Thirteen months ago, Allen Iverson made a compelling case for change at the dining room table of Joe Dumars. He made something of a stump speech to the Pistons president, understanding what a champion wanted to hear, what would play to this audience.
Over dinner, Iverson suggested that the public had such bad ideas about him, and he wanted to change it all with Detroit. He wanted the structure, the responsibility, the culture of the Pistons’ winning program. His children were older, and he wanted to reshape the legacy he left for them. Iverson has been the showman of his time, forever playing to the cir stance and crowd.
“They’re dedicated to winning,” Iverson told me a few days later. “Me being at the end of my career, that’s what I’m all about. All I care about is winning.”
Iverson has turned into the worst kind of basketball con man now. He knows what people want to hear, and he delivers it on cue. He couldn’t last the full season in Detroit, and he couldn’t last a full week in Memphis. Now, Philadelphia meets with him, hears it and coach Eddie Jordan marveled of Iverson, “He’s a charming individual.”
Always. And yet, when it comes to Iverson, there’s long been no use judging him on word. Just deed. This is a different Sixers’ front office and coaching regime, but they ought to know: Allen Iverson has been the most relentlessly consistent player in the NBA for a decade. He’s about A.I., and that will always be true.
Here’s how this is going to with the Sixers: Once they let him back into the gym, this will be different than Detroit, different than Memphis. After all, Iverson has history in Philadelphia. He was a forever athlete in Philly, and always will be. He transcended basketball there, and become a cultural phenomenon.
Perhaps he can be the starter over Jrue Holiday until Louis Williams returns from a broken jaw, but what then? Think A.I. willingly gives back that job? What happens when this barren arena starts to replenish with fans wanting to see Iverson again, when the No. 3 jerseys rush through the turnstiles? What happens when Iverson doesn’t want to run the coach’s Princeton offense? What happens when he starts to humiliate assistant coach Randy Ayers on the team bus, like he did when Ayers was his head coach there?
What happens?
This happens: Iverson will test his popularity with that of a general manager, Ed Stefanski, that the public only knows for overpaying a broken down Elton Brand. What happens when Iverson takes on his coach, Eddie Jordan? He wins, because what does the public know about Jordan except that he’s lost a lot of games in Philly so far?
“He will be the only one there with a love affair history with that city,” one Western Conference executive said. “He’s the one person who can stand up and speak to the fans of Philly, and he will do that. He will talk about how much he needs them, and they will give him the benefit of the doubt before anyone else there.”
The case for signing Iverson is purely business – selling seats and jerseys – because he becomes a full-time job for the coaching staff. There will always be an issue to iron out, an at ude to placate, a crisis coming and going. People will call for it to happen, because it gives an irrelevant franchise an immediate iden y. Everywhere else in the NBA, they’re having throwback jersey nights. The Sixers want a throwback star. Only, they’ll go back into time and find that for all the angst that Iverson brings, it comes without the dominance. It comes without the game-changer.
Iverson comes back to Philly believing he’s the player who left there still a franchise star. He can’t see himself the way the rest of basketball does, because fading legends seldom do. They’re always the last to know, and that’s Allen Iverson now. Nevertheless, he’s smart enough to play along with the process, to tell Stefanski and Jordan that he gets it now, that he had his epiphany, and he just wants to come home, just wants to fit in, just wants to win.
“Charming,” Eddie Jordan said, and deep down, he knows the truth, too. This is a con game, and no one plays it like Allen Iverson. The blame doesn’t go to him now, but the Sixers. They’re bringing in the most relentlessly consistent player in the NBA – all about A.I., all the time – and they need to understand something:
Once they let Allen Iverson back into the gym, back into the waiting arms of a desperate Sixers fandom, well, good luck getting him out.
He stills has Media in his corner, the little f'k.
Best article I've seen that outlines the true obvious about AI
Mark my words. They'll be sorry.
Updated.
Source: 76ers offer Iverson non-guaranteed deal
By Dan Gelston
Allen Iverson and the Philadelphia 76ers are closer to a reunion.
A person with knowledge of the contract talks says the Sixers offered a one-year, non-guaranteed contract to Iverson on Tuesday. The person spoke on condition of anonymity because the contract talks had not been made public.
Iverson, his agent and business manager met with team president Ed Stefanski, coach Eddie Jordan and two other members of the organization Monday during the first formal meeting between the Sixers and their former MVP.
Iverson announced his retirement last week after an ill-fated stint with the Memphis Grizzlies. The 10-time All-Star was NBA MVP in 2001 when he led the Sixers to the NBA finals.
Another person with knowledge of the deal, who also spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because the talks had not been made public, said Iverson’s decision should come Wednesday.
The person says the 76ers are taking a chance on Iverson because he’s the best free-agent guard available and the financial commitment is minimal. The Sixers would owe just under $650,000 if they guarantee his contract for the remainder of the season on Jan. 10.
“What is the downside if you can cut him any time you want?” the person said.
Iverson would still need to undergo a physical before the deal is complete. As of Tuesday night, the Sixers had not heard back from Iverson’s agent Leon Rose.
Iverson announced his intention to retire last week after no other team expressed an interest is signing the four-time scoring champion. The 6-foot Iverson played three games this season with Memphis before taking a leave of absence to attend to personal matters. He was waived after the two sides agreed to part ways.
He’s on the brink of getting a second chance with the Sixers(5-13), who have lost seven straight entering Wednesday night’s game at Oklahoma City and need Iverson to spark sagging ticket sales and their playoff chances.
This reconciliation was once thought foolish after their acrimonious split three years ago. Iverson’s last game with Philadelphia was Dec. 6, 2006 in Chicago. He refused to play the fourth quarter and was banished from the team two days later. He was eventually traded to Denver as part of the Andre Miller deal, and bounced to Detroit before landing in Memphis.
The Sixers finish their four-game road trip Saturday against the Charlotte Bobcats and Iverson’s former nemesis, coach Larry Brown.
Brown said Tuesday he was upset that Iverson’s best option was a non-guaranteed deal.
“I get worried about that message, but I also admire Philly for giving him a chance,” he said. “That’s more meaningful for me. I look at a guy that scored 20,000 points and played hurt and did so much and now he’s got to play for a non-guaranteed contract, that’s pretty troubling for me.”
If Iverson accepts the offer, his likely debut would come Monday night at home against Denver. In a double-dose of intriguing timing, the Sixers play at home Dec. 9 against Detroit.
Perhaps Iverson will show his former teams that he still has something left in the No. 3 jersey.
Or, the Nuggets and Pistons will see they made the right choice to move on without the controversial guard.
CSNPhilly.com first reported the offer.
Memphis Grizzlies owner Michael Heisley told the AP on Tuesday that he spent almost an hour on the phone with Stefanski before his meeting with Iverson.
“I told him I thought Allen had the game and I thought he would be a positive contribution to his team and was sorry it didn’t work out with us. I thought to get back with Philadelphia, it was a good chance it would work out for them. I feel extremely happy about it,” Heisley said.
“Quite frankly, I’m sorry that we couldn’t work it out between us and Allen. I don’t feel duped. I don’t feel upset. I quite frankly arranged for the severance, which we could’ve stopped, which would’ve stopped him from being able to play for anybody. I did it so he would have an opportunity to go play.”
The 34-year-old Iverson began an indefinite leave of absence on Nov. 7 to deal with a personal issue.
Heisley said he knew exactly what the personal matter was, but he refused to discuss that issue.
“I hope it’s cleared up,” he said.
Heisley believed Iverson would return at first, then said he thinks Iverson did not want to rejoin the Grizzlies for reasons that could have included retirement or possible interest from other teams.
“I hope he comes back and I hope he has a great career with them,” Heisley said.
Last edited by duncan228; 12-01-2009 at 06:43 PM.
Why? It's not like they have anything to lose.
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