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    yeah.. the spurs, 15 games into the season with half the team being new faces, lost to most likely the eventual eastern conference champs/nba champs (if the spurs don't make it there). boston is one of the best two teams in the league right now. this isn't exactly the right loss to start jumping off a cliff. maybe if it was a loss to the mavs, blazers, or cavs, i would understand.

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    this isn't exactly the right loss to start jumping off a cliff. maybe if it was a loss to the mavs, blazers, or cavs, i would understand.
    We've lost to 2 of those 3 already, this loss just piles it on...

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    if we get mad when we lose we're cliffjumpers, if we're happy when we win, we're bandwagoners.

    Why can we just be pissed when the spurs lose and happy when they win and still be just fans.
    +1

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    Hard to give up on a team with David Robinson and the reigning MVP...that is unfortunately not what this team is sporting now...
    This team has better depth at PG, one of the best rookie rebounders in recent memory, and 5 guys that are still learning a very complicated system. It's way too early to toss in the towel.

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    There we go again...

    Just relax. Everything is fine. You cant be all nervous because of this loss. Have some faith.

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    This team has better depth at PG, one of the best rookie rebounders in recent memory, and 5 guys that are still learning a very complicated system. It's way too early to toss in the towel.
    If all the "complicated system" excuses are what everyone is clinging to, Popovich really lied to us in the preseason about dumbing things down for the new guys...

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slu...=tsn&type=lgns

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    We've lost to 2 of those 3 already, this loss just piles it on...
    parker was injured early against the blazers and the spurs split two games with the mavs. i don't know how it could be any different. nothing out of the ordinary there. can't really expect the spurs to beat the blazers without parker and to sweep the mavs, the arch rivals of the spurs.

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    If the Spurs make just one more made 3, Duncan has one less turnover, and the fluke basket by Blair for the Celts doesn't happen, they win this game. people are blowing this loss so far out of proportion. The Celtics are a damn good team. This strikes me as a totally understandable loss.

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    parker was injured early against the blazers and the spurs split two games with the mavs. i don't know how it could be any different. nothing out of the ordinary there. can't really expect the spurs to beat the blazers without parker and to sweep the mavs, the arch rivals of the spurs.
    The Mavs had injury problems of their own when they beat us, hard to make excuses for one team while the other fights through the same problem and wins...

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    If all the "complicated system" excuses are what everyone is clinging to, Popovich really lied to us in the preseason about dumbing things down for the new guys...

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slu...=tsn&type=lgns

    You're right. The season is over. Pack it in. Trade Duncan. Etc.

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    If the Spurs make just one more made 3, Duncan has one less turnover, and the fluke basket by Blair for the Celts doesn't happen, they win this game. people are blowing this loss so far out of proportion. The Celtics are a damn good team. This strikes me as a totally understandable loss.
    Alot of "if" scenarios there...good teams find ways to minimize the "if"'s and defend their home court against a damn good team.

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    alot of "if" scenarios there...good teams find ways to minimize the "if"'s and defend their home court against a damn good team.
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    You're right. The season is over. Pack it in. Trade Duncan. Etc.
    Now you are starting to come around...

    Seriously though, no one said "Trade Duncan" or "Pack it in"...criticizing your team's poor play does not equate to season tanking...especially when we are 10 million over the luxury tax as it is.

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    The Mavs had injury problems of their own when they beat us, hard to make excuses for one team while the other fights through the same problem and wins...
    spurs beat a fully healthy mavs team without parker and duncan. i doubt the mavs could beat the spurs without dirk and terry.

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    If all the "complicated system" excuses are what everyone is clinging to, Popovich really lied to us in the preseason about dumbing things down for the new guys...

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slu...=tsn&type=lgns
    that just goes to prove the point that it is a difficult system and usually it takes a full year for a player to adjust, but we don't have a year to wait and that's the purpose of dumbing down the system.

    Something else that makes sense is that Pop's system has had to be more complex in the past because of the lack of overall talent compared to other teams (almost like Duke) - he has more talent now than he's had before and he can probably rely on that talent in the long run more than his system that he's needed in the past.

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    The conventional wisdom in '03 was that nobody could beat Shaq & Kobe, Robinson was old and past his prime, and the Spurs just didn't have the talent to win it all.

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    that just goes to prove the point that it is a difficult system and usually it takes a full year for a player to adjust, but we don't have a year to wait and that's the purpose of dumbing down the system.

    Something else that makes sense is that Pop's system has had to be more complex in the past because of the lack of overall talent compared to other teams (almost like Duke) - he has more talent now than he's had before and he can probably rely on that talent in the long run more than his system that he's needed in the past.
    +1

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    spurs beat a fully healthy mavs team without parker and duncan. i doubt the mavs could beat the spurs without dirk and terry.
    The Mavs did beat us without Dampier, Marion and Josh Howard...they have had injuries for a majority of the season but yet found the for ude to lead the division anyway.

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    that just goes to prove the point that it is a difficult system and usually it takes a full year for a player to adjust, but we don't have a year to wait and that's the purpose of dumbing down the system.

    Something else that makes sense is that Pop's system has had to be more complex in the past because of the lack of overall talent compared to other teams (almost like Duke) - he has more talent now than he's had before and he can probably rely on that talent in the long run more than his system that he's needed in the past.
    So if in fact he did "dumb it down", why are people still using it as an excuse to write off the poor play of Jefferson when others on this team are doing fine with it (Blair, Mcdyess, Bogans)?

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    The Mavs did beat us without Dampier, Marion and Josh Howard...they have had injuries for a majority of the season but yet found the for ude to lead the division anyway.
    dampier + marion + howard does not equal duncan + parker

    only games so far the spurs fans can legitimately melt down for are the losses to the jazz and thunder at home. otherwise, the spurs wins and losses have been very predictable and expected.

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    So if in fact he did "dumb it down", why are people still using it as an excuse to write off the poor play of Jefferson when others on this team are doing fine with it (Blair, Mcdyess, Bogans)?
    Bogans was horrible tonight - he was missing assignments left and right. The point is that in the past there was enough returning players familiar with the system that incorporating a new player was easier to do. But, when you have so many new faces it makes it so much harder to find rotations with players that aren't familiar with this system. Just because it's dumbed down doesn't mean that it's not going to take some time to learn - just not a full year like the past.

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    Bogans was horrible tonight - he was missing assignments left and right.
    His on the ball defense overall has been what most had hoped for in trying to replace Bowen. I think he has easily been our best perimeter defender outside of Hill.

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    dampier + marion + howard does not equal duncan + parker
    Duncan played in the game we lost while the Mavs were without all 3 of the aforementioned players. I'm not saying they equal what the Spurs didn't have but they have won games with a depleted roster and not used the excuse injury to blow off poor play against good compe ion.

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    Duncan played in the game we lost while the Mavs were without all 3 of the aforementioned players. I'm not saying they equal what the Spurs didn't have but they have won games with a depleted roster and not used the excuse injury to blow off poor play against good compe ion.
    i think mavsfan feels worse about the loss to the spurs without duncan and parker, the all star duo and spurs' scoring leaders, than spursfan losing to the mavs without those three role players. mavs would struggle just as much if they lost their top two scorers, dirk and terry, due to injuries. spurs are completely healthy now so the meltdown should be reserved until the next time one of the big 3 goes down or they start a losing streak of more than two games. losing to one of the best two teams in the league right now is not the time to panic.

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    im pissed!! man ill post some pis but man if u saw what i saw, these refs are bull !!! it doesnt help when we miss the easiest shots,(freethrows). i have to give it to the celtics they play some good D but when your close up that D sure looks like alot of fouls to me. im proud of timmy and blair wow beasty blair was amazing tonight. im sorry but tony is playing like . yes i saw the stats, but if you were there you saw everyone frustrated with him. if hills nose didnt get broken we could have possibly stole a W. all in all im proud of the spurs, for not letting it get out of control

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