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some of you guys are really ed up. if mase hits that three, everyone goes nuts and calls him clutch. do you guys not remember that mason is one of the best 3 pt shooters in the nba?
So it's Manu's fault that Finley stepped out of bounds? Reach much?
Just wow...
some of you guys are really ed up. if mase hits that three, everyone goes nuts and calls him clutch. do you guys not remember that mason is one of the best 3 pt shooters in the nba?
Why is it always a ing Tony vs. Manu situation with you?
I don't understand it as well! Manu should be in at crunch time! At least keep Mason in, but Jefferson just plain sucked and he should have been on the bench! We got within 2 points and Pop keeps Jefferson in! I just don't plain understand it! Ridiculous! Opportunity missed!
Hill showed he could guard 6'10 Kevin Durant. Lacking size my ass.
The kid's got more length than stubby arms Bogans. Not to mention more moxie.
Bogans' defense (or lack thereof) made Ray Allen look 15 years younger out there. Bogans' couldn't stay in front of him, couldn't contest or contain, and couldn't stay with him off screens.
Regardless of whether this was an aberration, I am ALL for seeing Hill take his starting role.
What Manny said and
If you're going to win a championship, it's going to be with Manu - not Roger Mason.
And Pop's gone crazy with his limiting minutes when Duncan checks in with 4 minutes in the fourth quarter. It's like someone is raking a chalkboard in my ears when Bonner is out there getting torched on the block by KG/Rasheed while Duncan watches on the bench because he can't play 33 minutes/game.
December game or not, the Spurs need to start proving to themselves they have elite team potential. If they don't know that they can beat the top teams in the league, they have no shot at the championship. This team is still trying to figure out where they stand and to think they're just going to toss some sprinkle dust in the air come spring and they'll whisk off to another magical championship is unrealistic given declining skills/age.
The one person I'd really like to see up his game is Pop. He's gotten to the point where he's making unorthodox decisions just because he's trying to be different. He needs to settle down and go back to the basics like playing good players in the fourth quarter, not trying to make players something they're not, and playing to players strengths.
4 championships are not, some of his decisions have sucked and it does matter now.
Other notes:
Theo Ratliff needs some more time out there. He makes too much impact with his blocked shot capability to get DNPCDs on a regular basis.
Tony Parker needs to take getting outplayed personally. Right now he's not as sharp as he was a season ago.
I think RJ will produce once he finds his place in the system. The Spurs should try to push the ball more when he's on the floor.
DeJuan Blair is extremely impressive with his soft touch and craftiness around the basket.
Duncan played pretty good against a tough 3 - Perkins, KG, Wallace.
Last edited by newacc; 12-04-2009 at 03:24 PM.
I remember some guy named Manu in 2007.
OMG...such a er. Nah bro, you are speaking what most of us were thinking and yelling at our TV screens. I didnt understand it and still dont. We lost,...ah well...Hopefully we take it to the Nuggs tomorrow night.
if you took karate they teach you that strength comes from having long arms. you could have big muscles but ppl with long arms could be just as strong because of torque in the elbow or some crap. hill definately has some long arms. Being in austin we dont get to see tonights game so
Pop is playing for the championship not a meaningless regular season game.
So, when should we expect Pops to stop sandbagging?
If Pop doesn't play Manu, you can bet he has his reasons. No one can possibly have the insight into his team and other relevant info than he. So people can get frustrated and speculate as much as they want, insult him as much as they want but that isn't going to change a thing. Only Pop knows for sure why he does what he does and I find it interesting how he goes about his coaching.. he may be unpredictable but there is a method to his madness.
Like I said, I'm talking about his strength, not his size..he only weighs like 190..it'll fly against some guys, it won't against most swingmen..it would have worked against Ray Allen, I agree, but it won't work against the bigger swingmen in the NBA..
im sick of people bringing up "oh manu didnt do any better than mason" oh " manu shot 33%" manu is a creator and even though he was off he had like 3 nice passes that set up blair and parker, if he was in there he could have scored or created for someone else, and what kind of bull is this when pop took a Timeout and still didnt in timmy.
and the spurs are playing for a ring, not the best regular season record, come playoff time thats when manu will be playing 30-35 minutes ppg
If he wants to rest Manu, Pop should keep him out of the 3rd quarter. He is our best closer when the game is on the line in the 4th quarter.
Still early in the season, and I know he wants to experiment, but beating Boston would have been an energizer for the team, not to mention the fans.
IMO we could have won this one with Manu in the 4th.
Let me ask you this, would you want POP to watch Manu's minutes or would you want Manu to get hurt for half a season?
He looks conflicted every time he touches the ball. That fast break travel was a classic example, got the ball takes two dribbles and wham what do I do next? Travel. The thunder game, is another time he got a good steal, then whamo confusion turnover. From watching McDyess over the years and especially with Detroit, I think he can produce in a big game, we know Manu, Tony, Finley and Duncan can also, Mason has the potential, and Hill hasn't shown that he will fade in a game against a quality opponent. The biggest thing I took from this game is that Blair had an impact in a game against a formidable opponent and on a big stage, TNT. This is one of those statement games and Blair made a statement, give me more time on the floor.
As for Manu, I gotta hope Pop knows what he is doing and his reasons are legit and he is not playing mind games with Manu like he has done with Bruce last season and Rose in the past. As much as I love Pop and respect him as a coach, he does have some anal flaws.
Last edited by pjjrfan; 12-05-2009 at 12:21 PM.
Damn, has it really come to this with Manu where you have to be afraid to even put the guy on the floor? Injurys can happen at any given time.
Maybe we need to call it and keep him out until around the playoffs.Maybe even the whole starting 5. Exaggerated as it may be it is beginning to feel like we recruited players from the senor citizens home where one slight fall can break a hip.
I honestly hope not it's just starting to feel that way with all our starters.
Why are people so surprised when Pop limits Manu's minutes? He said he would before the game and despite the fans really wanting a win against Boston, Pop had a plan and stuck to it.
You may be able to argue his plan, but the fact Manu was held out is not that surprising. It is just made worse because it was Boston and the game, which was dominated by Boston the entire time, was close at the end.
Pop very rarely tries to react short-term at the expense of the long-term.
It's early December.
Manu belongs in the game in the final minutes, this is what the spurs are paying him to do. He's a proven closer with his ability to score himself or draw the foul, and find teammates for open shots.
Roger Mason, Jr should never have the ball at the top of the key initiating the offense by taking tough low% contested shots in the closing minute of the game and down a couple field goals.
Like most shooters he is way more effective as a spot-up catch and shoot player when he is getting fed by a penetrating wing or good ball movement finds him an open look.
spurs are paying him way to much for what manu brings and can play so far this season
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