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Matt Leinart is definitely in the discussion. i agree tebow is overrated.
Tebow isnt even the best Gator quarterback of all time. That goes to Danny Wuerffel.
Top 3... Vince Young, Tommie Frazier, Matt Leinart/Ken Dorsey
I wanna include Sammy Baugh b/c of what ive heard from my grandfather and other older people but ive never actually seen him play..
Matt Leinart is definitely in the discussion. i agree tebow is overrated.
I don't like Tebow the same as the rest of yall, but the man is a beast of a college QB.
Tebow >>> Leinart
Definately. People just choose not to include him b/c of hate, but the numbers are there.
Chris Leak was the real QB on that 06 le team. If Tebow wins again this year i give him the nod. Kind of unfair to some other quarterbacks because these two had unreal talent on both sides of the ball.
exactly, and team success is only part of the equation. as for Leinart, was going for his second straight national championship against texas and played great...just lost a close one.
i dont go by les alone like a lot of people do
les are one of the last things i use to judge a player
what they do on the field is what matters most, and just like the reason why i think VY is better than Colt and Tebow, is the reason why i think Colt and Tebow are better than Leinart... its harder to gameplan against those two. leinart benefitted greatly from a monster running duo of Bush and White and a beast at WR in Jarrett. VY, Colt, and Tebow didnt get the benefit of the offensive weapons that Leinart had. teams gameplan solely for those three guys. whereas in that USC offense, teams had to gameplan for an entire offense.
dont get me wrong, leinart was a beast, but i just dont think he was as deadly of a college QB as these three.
Charlie Ward is also in this discussion
oh yeah, and Ty Detmer
and just threw a pick
and just could not manage scores when they needed ONE to finish UT off
and thats why hes not as good. he wasnt a guy to just put the ball in his hands and tell him to win the game for you, and he go out there and do it. VY consistently proved he can do that, and did so on the highest of stages. colt and tebow have done it numerous times as well. leinart wasnt that kind of QB. he had a great system and ran it well, but was never truly dominant the way a guy like VY was.
Old school I'd hafta go Staubach
now I'm done
I say VY just because he could take over games like no other could. He was a threat at anytime and never once got fazed. He didnt have as talented teams as a lot of these guys did. I dont like judging by stats. If that was the case then Timmy Chang would be the greatest QB of all time.
Last edited by dallaskd; 12-04-2009 at 06:27 PM.
How is there a distinction between Option QB's and QB's? I thought this was just "who is the greatest college QB"? The option is a legitimate offensive strategy in college, and nobody ran it better than Tommie Frazier. And just because he was an option QB didn't mean he had no passing skills. The guy had a cannon arm and became a very good passer by the end of his college career.
Vince Young had the greatest individual performance in the history of college football, but he was pretty mediocre for over half his college career. Tommie Frazier was dynamite basically from day one.
Numbers? Harrell had numbers too
Vince Young's last play of his career = 2 point conversion after scoring go ahead touchdown.
Matt Leinart's = uncatchable pass out of bounds as time expires
amazing how memories are skewed.
Tebow will truck a defensive back and get that extra 2-3 yards everytime, jump up, pump his fist do the gator chomp and scream. Vince Young on the other hand would just flat out break the tackle or avoid the defender all together to get that extra 20-30 yards everytime.
Leinart won games. Harrel just threw 70 yard bombs every play and lost 2-3 games evey season.
Leinart definitely belongs in the discussion. Considering how Pete Carroll does basically nothing at all to prepare his team to play each week, thinking they can just roll over everyone on sheer talent alone, it's a bigger testament that Leinart has been the only QB in the Carroll era to get the team to actually play to it's full potential.
oh ok.
Ty Detmer > Vince
not really.
although he was a great all around athlete. It's a little known fact that he was drafted by the Milwaukee Brewers.
that's really not that far fetched of a statement.
It's even debatable as to who the bigger Christian is.
No dumb ass, the discussion is best player. Durant is better right now than Melo. Best college career goes to Melo.
See the difference between better player and better career? See, you learned something.
mark farris was badd for ol aggy
acie law
you know what we can do, to pass time after conference championship week.....
we can do a mass pool of QB's, and then tournament-vote them
to end up seeing who is the best of all time
then we can get that lazy ass rich sooner Scott to skew the votes to even out the team-bias....like 5 longhorn votes for a longhorn would even out to 1 sooner vote for a sooner....that knows stats
but first we'd have to define what we is meant by "great"
is it total body of work over longest period of time
is it hypothetical total body of work over longest period of time
is it impact in general
etc
but it would have to accepted as the modern modern era, because ironmexican is like the oldest young adult in the forum
and its vince young
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