Keith Bogans..

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Interesting that Bowen was put out to pasture when I think he's a step up from what we're getting from Bogans on both ends of the floor.

[draft87]

but but but he's not averaging 20 a game!!

hahahahaha

[draft87]

keith bogans is ing garbage. should immediately be out of the starting lineup

who should start instead? and how will improve the rotations and performances?

[DesignatedT]

Interesting that Bowen was put out to pasture when I think he's a step up from what we're getting from Bogans on both ends of the floor.

agreed. its not too late to bring bruce back as well... although he definitely wouldnt be some savior but i wouldnt mind seeing him out their or atleast helping in practice.

[DesignatedT]

who should start instead? and how will improve the rotations and performances?

First, i would start someone who is actually going to be APART of the rotation..... name ANY OTHER STARTER IN THE LEAGUE who ends up playing 8 minutes in a game? LMAO. If your going to start a guy like bogans then commit to him playing atleast 20-25 minutes. NOT 8.

Talk about hurting the rotation and performances...... bogans starting then ends up playing 8 total minutes. seriously, what the kind of rotation, lineup, coaching is behind that reasoning.... ing terrible

[Blackjack]

Would I rather have Bowen playing the type of minutes Bogans had seen thus far?

Yes.

Would Bowen have come back to the Spurs playing the type of minutes Bogans has seen and the role he had in his final year?

No.

If Bowen was willing to play the diminished role he was forced to play last year, the Spurs would've brought him back. They weren't willing to depend on him as they had done in the past, but they would've been fine bringing him back if he could accept the diminished role.

Bruce couldn't and wouldn't accept being a limited minute, end-of-bench, situational player; he's a proud man that didn't want to fade into obscurity.

Bogans' inability to gain the respect of the defense combined with Parker's lack of a jumper, at least one we've yet to see this year, is a big reason for the uptick in turnovers; the defenders are sagging off of Parker and Bogans when they play together and congesting the paint. As seen against Boston, post-play's susceptible to turnovers when putting the ball on the floor from the weakside help defenders.

Raja was the closest thing to a natural fit coming into the season for the role, and the Spurs' interest is no surprise. I'm not a huge fan of the player he is defensively at this stage, but his shot and the respect he's gained over the years from the officials leaves him the most logical option; three months from now, that is..

[CGD]

It's a sliding scale folks. Bogan's starting turns on RJ's improvement on D. Unless George grows 3", he's the best we've got right now to throw at SG/SF taller than 6'6"

Bogans starting <---------------------> Bogans to the bench
RJ subpar D <---------------------> RJ consistency on D

[TJastal]

I'm not surprised really. All the indications pointed to this happening. Bogans' miserable shooting in the pre-season, his journeyman career that has at least a dozen team changes, his overrated defense.

And to think, Pop tossed away a great young prospect (Hairston) that by all indications was ready to produce nicely in the NBA so this guy could land a job.

[TJastal]

4-21 in the last 6 games, 2-14 from 3s..

We knew his offense wasn't going to be good, but not this bad..is this just a slump or should we be worried?..

It seems like his offense is starting to even out after his relatively hot stretch..

Actually he's replicating his pre-season shooting numbers almost perfectly. Amazing, huh?

[TJastal]

Bogans shut Deron Williams down HARD in the first half.

For the whole 4.5 minutes Bogans played he did a good defensive job on Williams, but that is an exaggeration.

[lennyalderette]

pop is not going to change his line up drastically, so dont expect much changing, and i'd rather have bogans defense than poor defense and below average offense anyway. they all just have to start playing better, it sounds stupid, because it is stupid. they should do whatever it takes to make them play at the top of their game.

[CGD]

I think the rationale for starting Bogan's is two-fold:

(1) the aforementioned defensive pesensce guarding SG/SF taller than 6'6"

(2) It allows the Spurs to exploit their current compe itve advantage: our deep bench. Bogans helps our first unit "weather storm," as it were, by playing the other team's 1st unit to a draw (in theory anyway). At least until the first unit "gets it," we'll need to seperate ourselves with our fire power off the bench.

[TJastal]

I think the rationale for starting Bogan's is two-fold:

(1) the aforementioned defensive pesensce guarding SG/SF taller than 6'6"

(2) It allows the Spurs to exploit their current compe itve advantage: our deep bench. Bogans helps our first unit "weather storm," as it were, by playing the other team's 1st unit to a draw (in theory anyway). At least until the first unit "gets it," we'll need to seperate ourselves with our fire power off the bench.

lol weather the storm.. he is a good chunk of that storm. A much better choice to weather the storm would be to start somebody else