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    How did it end in the book...cause the movies ending was just ed up...
    They imply they may end up offing themselves, but it never happens because the main guy believes there's still hope (due to a phantom radio signal, IIRC). There's absolutely no mention of them actually killing themselves, and therefore, definitely no mention of the Army sweeping in and saving everyone right after the suicides (no mention of the Military saving anyone at all, actually).

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    It could be a missile

    but the spiral formation is way too tight, not likely to be a missile, though possible

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    They imply they may end up offing themselves, but it never happens because the main guy believes there's still hope (due to a phantom radio signal, IIRC). There's absolutely no mention of them actually killing themselves, and therefore, definitely no mention of the Army sweeping in and saving everyone right after the suicides (no mention of the Military saving anyone at all, actually).


    So the book just leaves you wondering?

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    New Russian missile failure sparks UFO frenzy

    MOSCOW (AFP) – Russia's new nuclear-capable missile suffered another failed test launch, the defence ministry said Thursday, solving the mystery of a spectacular plume of white light that appeared over Norway.
    The Bulava missile was test-fired from the submarine Dmitry Donskoi in the White Sea early Wednesday but failed at the third stage, the defence ministry said in a statement.

    The pre-dawn morning launch coincided with the appearance of an extraordinary light over northern Norway that captivated observers.
    Images of the light that appeared in the sky above the Norwegian city of Tromso and elsewhere prompted explanations ranging from a meteor, northern lights, a failed missile or even a UFO.

    Describing the latest failure of the Bulava as a major embarrassment for the military, leading Russian defence analyst Pavel Felgenhauer said the images were consistent with a missile failure.
    "Such lights and clouds appear from time to time when a missile fails in the upper layers of the atmosphere and have been reported before," he told AFP.

    "At least this failed test made some nice fireworks for the Norwegians," he joked.

    The White Sea, which is the usual site for such missile tests by Russian submarines, lies close to Norway's own Arctic region.
    This was the 12th test launch of the Bulava and the seventh time the firing has ended in failure, the Interfax news agency said.

    The submarine-launched missile is central to Russia's plan to revamp its ageing weapons arsenal but is beset by development problems.
    "The first two stages of the rocket worked but in the final and third stage there was a technical failure," the defence ministry said in a statement.
    The statement said the problem was with the engine in the third stage, while in past launches the first stage had been faulty.

    The problems with the Bulava have become an agonising issue for the defence ministry, which has ploughed a large proportion of its procurement budget into ensuring the missile becomes the key element of its rocket forces.

    The previous failure in July forced the resignation of Yury Solomonov, the director of the Moscow Ins ute of Thermal Technology which is responsible for developing the missile.

    Felgenhauer said that it had dealt a serious blow to Russia's bid to maintain a credible nuclear deterrent.

    "By the year 2030, Russia could lose its position as a global nuclear power if the problems are not solved. And it could be that these missiles will never fly properly.

    "The Russian defence industry has disintegrated to such an extent that it simply cannot make such a complicated system work. Technology and expertise have been lost," he said.
    The problems are also a major political embarrassment, coming as Russia negotiates with the United States the parameters of a new arms reduction treaty to replace the 1991 START accord.

    The treaty expired on December 5, and despite intense negotiations the two sides have yet to agree the text of a new deal.

    In a separate development, a successful test-firing took place of Russia's intercontinental surface-to-surface ballistic missile Topol RS-12M, news agencies quoted a statement from the strategic rocket forces as saying.
    The missile -- introduced to the rocket forces before the fall of the Soviet Union -- was fired from the southern Russian region of Astrakhan and hit its target at a testing range in neighbouring Kazakhstan.

    The Bulava, which can be equipped with up to 10 individually targeted nuclear warheads, has a maximum range of 8,000 kilometres (5,000 miles).
    It is the sea-based version of the Topol-M, Russia's new surface-to-surface intercontinental missile, and designed to be launched from Moscow's newest Borei class of submarines.

    Defence analysts say that a further headache for the military is that the new submarines are designed to be compatible with Bulava and if the new missile fails to work the vessels will be virtually useless.

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    So the book just leaves you wondering?
    Yep. King left open, even pondered the likelihood of the possibility of them eventually offing themselves, sure, but then they just as likely didn't. The military sweeping in and the Mist disappearing as if everything's gonna turn out OK definitely diverges from the book, though.

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    Yep. King left open, even pondered the likelihood of the possibility of them eventually offing themselves, sure, but then they just as likely didn't. The military sweeping in and the Mist disappearing as if everything's gonna turn out OK definitely diverges from the book, though.
    But, King did say that he really liked Darabont's ending.

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    King often has trouble with endings. For example, he recently said that he is revisiting the Dark Tower series and that he might even change the ending because he was never fond of it and the fans (or constant readers) keep complaining about it.

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    But, King did say that he really liked Darabont's ending.
    I think the ending is one of many possible endings, but it felt too cliche to me. He offs his kid and doesn't immediately kill himself, of course... and how would the Military kill those huge 4 legged building sized reptile things without planes or helicopters operating in heavy, monster-and-mist filled air? That was what destroyed the ending for me, actually. Those monsters could probably take out a line of tanks without problem, especially with the mist as cover, but maybe my imagination is running a little too wild.

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    I think the ending is one of many possible endings, but it felt too cliche to me. He offs his kid and doesn't immediately kill himself, of course... and how would the Military kill those huge 4 legged building sized reptile things without planes or helicopters operating in heavy, monster-and-mist filled air? That was what destroyed the ending for me, actually. Those monsters could probably take out a line of tanks without problem, especially with the mist as cover, but maybe my imagination is running a little too wild.
    I don't think the movie implies that the military killed off everything. It just showed that the military rescued some people and it all took place on the fringe of the mist.

    If you remember the Dark Tower series, the mist is actually a "thinny". And, you could survive on the fringes, but you will certainly die once you go in deeper. Roland and his friends even used the thinny to kill off the armed forces that were chasing them.

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    And, it can't really be cliche if the guy does the unexpected by killing his kid only to realize that he was literally minutes away from being rescued.

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    I don't think the movie implies that the military killed off everything. It just showed that the military rescued some people and it all took place on the fringe of the mist.
    It's a novel idea, but there was never any mention of how close they were to the fringe IIRC.

    If you remember the Dark Tower series, the mist is actually a "thinny". And, you could survive on the fringes, but you will certainly die once you go in deeper. Roland and his friends even used the thinny to kill off the armed forces that were chasing them.
    I have only read the Gunslinger. I have a ton of reading to do there, good idea. I'm reading IT right now, great great read.

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    And, it can't really be cliche if the guy does the unexpected by killing his kid only to realize that he was literally minutes away from being rescued.
    Maybe "predictable" would fit better, but it DID feel cliche .. of COURSE the Army swoops in and saves you right after you kill your kid to save him being torn apart by foul creatures.

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    It's a novel idea, but there was never any mention of how close they were to the fringe IIRC.
    If memory serves me, when the military passes and the camera is moving out, you see daylight up ahead and the mist diminishing. That's how I remember it, but I could be wrong.

    I have only read the Gunslinger. I have a ton of reading to do there, good idea. I'm reading IT right now, great great read.
    Dude, you have to read the entire Dark Tower series. IT is nothing compared to the series. This is coming from the biggest King fan in the world. Trust me, you will not be disappointed if you read the entire series.

    The "thinny" is prominent in the book "Wizard and Glass" as it tells the story of Roland and his friends when they were young and how they used the thinny to defeat the evil forces. "The Talisman", "Black House", "Insomnia", and "Hearts in Atlantis" are all related to the Dark Tower series in one way or another and I think all of them mention things coming from something that is very much like a mist/thinny.

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    I think the ending is one of many possible endings, but it felt too cliche to me. He offs his kid and doesn't immediately kill himself, of course... and how would the Military kill those huge 4 legged building sized reptile things without planes or helicopters operating in heavy, monster-and-mist filled air? That was what destroyed the ending for me, actually. Those monsters could probably take out a line of tanks without problem, especially with the mist as cover, but maybe my imagination is running a little too wild.


    But I thought the whole thing was that he only had 4 bullets?

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    Maybe "predictable" would fit better, but it DID feel cliche .. of COURSE the Army swoops in and saves you right after you kill your kid to save him being torn apart by foul creatures.
    Cliche and predictable would have been for them to be rescued before he offed anyone.

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    But I thought the whole thing was that he only had 4 bullets?
    I don't remember. The event never happened in the story, so I'm getting things confused...

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    Cliche and predictable would have been for them to be rescued before he offed anyone.
    Perhaps, I honestly don't watch many movies, but I really saw it coming and hadn't even read the story yet... this is getting off the point, which is that I don't think it was the most logical conclusion. I interpreted the book's ending as being hopeful even. It's King's story, and if he loved the ending great... but it still wasn't how the story ended. It just drops off with them facing bleak chances but remembering the hopeful radio signal IIRC, and the next story begins (it's actually the longest in a collection of short stories, Skeleton Crew I think).

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    I don't remember. The event never happened in the story, so I'm getting things confused...


    Yeah in the movie the whole thing was that he only had 4 bullets and there were five of them. After he offed everyone, he got out of the car and was screaming for the oversized bugs to "COME ON"! As he said that the mist cleared the army pulled thru with all the survivors. (ironically enough with a ton of kids)

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    Yeah in the movie the whole thing was that he only had 4 bullets and there were five of them. After he offed everyone, he got out of the car and was screaming for the oversized bugs to "COME ON"! As he said that the mist cleared the army pulled thru with all the survivors. (ironically enough with a ton of kids)
    Yeah, the main thing I remembered was the almost symbolic way the Mist suddenly just clears. That's why I felt like the Military was successfully wiping everything out, the Mist disappears...

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    Yeah, the main thing I remembered was the almost symbolic way the Mist suddenly just clears. That's why I felt like the Military wiped everything out, the Mist disappears...


    Actually there was a thread on IMdb that posed the question as to why the Mist just mysteriously dissapeared once the Army came thru. I can understand the portal closing, but was left wondering why the Mist all of the sudden vanished.

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    wasnt obama supposed to tell the whole world about the Mist?

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    who the f would read stephen king?

    ty fiction books about killer frying pans, sheesh

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    who the f would read stephen king?

    ty fiction books about killer frying pans, sheesh

    It's almost like you're trying to embarrass yourself.

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    It's almost like you're trying to embarrass yourself.
    I agree with him

    Don't get me wrong, King has written 2-3 great books, but the rest is really ty

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    Another? Do the Norwegians have a tradition of X-mas hoaxes?
    Haven't you read the book " Norway's tradition of X-mas hoaxes ", written by Ole-Gunnar Gravagaer ?

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