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I guess women who have had a hysterectomy or are past the age of menopause should not be allowed to get married either-- or guys with low sperm counts. Now that could be an interesting test to get a marriage license.
Heresy, I say!
I guess women who have had a hysterectomy or are past the age of menopause should not be allowed to get married either-- or guys with low sperm counts. Now that could be an interesting test to get a marriage license.
What?
Are you referring to housewives?How are housewives dependant on men? Marriage, and the roles of the marriage are a two way road. To generalize that one is inferior to the other is pretty ignorant.
Reread it, SnC. BB wasn't making a generalization about the present.
single parents=unwed. There were other studies that involved unwed iving together out of wedlock
Compared with peers who had not cohabited, young adult females who had exited a cohabiting relationship were more likely to experience an increase in depressive symptoms and less likely to experience a decline in depression. Young adult males who had exited a cohabiting relationship, likewise, were less likely to experience a decline in depressive symptoms from adolescence to young adulthood than peers who had not cohabited. About one half of the cohabiting young adult respondents had experienced a breakup of their cohabiting relationships.
Sample or Data Description
Data come from the first and the third waves of the National Longitudinal Survey of Adolescent Health (“Add Health”). Respondents were between the ages of 12 and 18 during the first wave, surveyed in 1994-95. The analytical sample consists of 8,172 individuals who married, cohabited or gave birth for the first time at an age that was below the national average age for these transitions.
Source
"Early Family Transitions and Depressive Symptom Changes from Adolescence to Early Adulthood"
Booth, Alan
Rustenbach, Elisa and McHale, Susan
Journal of Marriage and Family Vol. 70, Number 1. February, 2008. Page(s) 3-14.
http://www.familyfacts.org/findingde...m?finding=8964
What's the divorce rate again?About one half of the cohabiting young adult respondents had experienced a breakup of their cohabiting relationships.
Only for people who use the actions of others as the basis for valuing their own marriages. Personally, the Mrs. CG and myself choose to value our marriage solely on the love we have for each other, and God, and that the only thing that could possibly cheapen our marriage is our own actions. That's why we don't view other people making lifestyle choices that we may not agree with as a threat to our marriage, nor are we the least bit concerned over the concept of some government, created by men, passing a law giving those people the same legal rights that we have. We're not concerned because what other people do does not affect our love for each other. If you do feel that your marriage is threatened by people living lifestyles you don't agree with getting to use the same "marriage" term as you do, well, it's my opinion that you are the one cheapening your marriage. Not them.
relationships in america have already been redefined. adultery is at all an time high, the divorce rate is at 50%, kids are having children. but somehow we want to blame sexuals for the decay of the sanc y of marriage?
Still no answer about whether allowing marriages between those heteros who are incapable or unwilling to have children would cheapen the ins ution?
I don't look at it as being redefined. It was wrongfully redefined by organized religion in the first place. This is simply allowing the union to be what it was originally intended to be.
Time and time again I ask "what is it about marriage that makes you people, or the church, think its yours to define in the first place". The sanc y of marriage was never yours to define. It existed in many forms long before the church redefined it as a man/woman union. You people took it (stole it) and modeled it to fit your belief structure for your own benefit.
Marrying outside of god cheapens the ins ution. str8, gay, whtever. The difference with str8 couples marrying is they can start to live in god's ways. People choosing to be in a sexual relationship are not living godly.
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what society promoted the practice of sexuality?
These are not marriage. Marriage is nothing about adultery and divorce. Marriage is decaying because of a variety of problems. One of them being the normalization of people being involved in sexual relationships.
So living outside God's way should be outlawed.
Nice.
What about laws? Somebody brought up laws. The only laws I brought up is the loss of every referendum by every state that tries to redefine marriage.
Once again what someone does in his own house is none of my business. Is that what we are talking about? No.
So you understand you want people living outside your definition of God's way outlawed.
Nice.
Ancient Greece is one that comes right to mind. There are many others. I'm not going to do your homework for you but the practice, and acceptance, of sexuality has been prominent throughout time.
Also the union of "marriage" used to carry a much more broad scope. People married inanimate objects as well as animals, creatures, pets so on and so forth.
The ancient Greeks did not conceive of sexual orientation as a social identifier, as Western societies have done for the past century. Greek society did not distinguish sexual desire or behavior by the gender of the participants, but rather by the role that each participant played in the sex act, that of active penetrator or passive penetrated.
People who don't have problems with a government redefinition of marriage in order to allow gay marriage because marriage isn't about an established tradition, matrimony, the rights of those already married or those who dont' want to marry, etc., because it's only about a contract between "consenting adults" don't have any kind of argument to be opposed to state sponsored siblings marriage, dad and daughter marriage (including a 50 years old dad marrying a 13 years old daughter - if government can redefine marriage why can't it redefine what an adult is? Well, it already does.), polygamist marriage and so on.
I'd like you to clarify your historical point of view about marriage.
In any case, it's important to differentiate what is spontaneous change - that decided in liberty by individuals and organizations - and a "made order" - that imposed by the coercive power of state. To put it simply: nobody is required to belong to a church.
I absolutely have an argument.
The government definition of marriage is already arbitrary, so there is no problem in having that arbitrary definition changed to another.
the Dutch legalized gay marriage in 2001.
close enough.
and if they fail to live in god's ways they can get a godly divorce.
at least they made an attempt at pushing our society forward by getting married in a church.
Honestly I'd like to find something a little closer to our time but still before Christianity but I've got a lot of work right now before I leave for the day. A quick google should still suffice for "a little clarity" on the fact that marriage was long defined before the current modern day structure.The first known marriages occurred in ancient Egypt. There had been human mating, similar to English common law marriage, long before there were official weddings.
The first marriages were public religious ceremonies commemorating the union of the Egyptian Goddesses Bast and Sekhmet in the creation myth of the Cosmic Orgasm. The high priestess of Bast and the high priestess of Sekhmet took on the roles of their respective Goddesses for the public festivities.
This first marriage ceremony was widely popular.
Other temples in ancient Egypt quickly copied the idea, with grand public marriage ceremonies for their favoried deities (most commonly male/female couples).
It wasn’t long before the wedding ceremony spread from a religious celebration of divine unions to a religious celebration of human unions sanctified by the divine.
This was the origin of marriage and weddings.
And the first version was specifically lesbian.
While heterosexual marriage was the most common form in ancient Egypt, gay and lesbian marriages continued until outlawed by Christians.
You've got to be kidding me. The church "pushes society forward".
Sincerely,
An 8 year old alter boys penis
I didn't realize that was Blake.
I should clarify for you as well.
I was being sarcastic.
I should clarify as well.
Me too.
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