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The political reality is that not passing anything is suicide for 2010, an already bleak midterm. And the votes won't be there in two years, regardless. Something will get done.
He gives them plenty of outs
"Now, let's be clear," Obama said. "The final bill won't include everything that everybody wants. No bill can do that. But what I told my former colleagues today is that we simply cannot allow differences over individual elements of this plan to prevent us from meeting our responsibility to solve a long-standing and urgent problem for the American people."
I just Howard Dean go on TV and is telling the Dems not to pass . Wait 2 years and go again!
The political reality is that not passing anything is suicide for 2010, an already bleak midterm. And the votes won't be there in two years, regardless. Something will get done.
No doubt something will get done. It's tiresome watching Obama up over and over. He and his clones have been saying on healthcare "this is what America wants". It's not. He thinks if they say it enough, we will believe it.
Todays speech was finally admitting it's not the reform bill they want but they want to put some bill together to say "reform" so he can attempt to take credit for something. Obama looked pathetic the last few speeches. As if he is not believing his telepromters either.
Even more pathetic he had the Governor and Senator from Illinois outside the White House seconds after his lame speech to talk about Gitmo. Pathetic.
So he didn't beg.
OK.
I am not sure what I watched a hour ago. I think the host name was Lawerance. Anyways they had a Senator on from Oregon (pretty sure) after Howard Dean said he hoped no democrat would vote for the healthcare bill now. The Senator from Oregon said that we have to pass "something" because if we don't the repugs will be partying. Way to get America motivated.
lol you watch msnbc.
Oh he begged buddy. No doubt about that. And old Joe said "Son, remember 2006....Go yourself"
Except he didn't beg, buddy. No doubt about that.
Thats it. That girl Rachel poped on next and I turned it.
Eh....talk-radio has failed to deliver votes in 2004, 2006, and 2008..I don't see 2010 being much different..the Democrats have a good chance of holding both houses in 2010, especially if the economy continues to recover (it will) and Obama starts to withdrawal combat troops from Iraq...
talk radio. People have lost faith in Obama becuase he lies.
All politicians lie.....George Bush lied and people died..
Obama lied and people are dying.
Howard Dean: "Kill The Senate Bill"..
Doesn't seem like anyone is begging...Dean said the removal of the Medicare buy-in made the bill not worth supporting, and urged Dem leaders to start over with the process of reconciliation in the interview, which is set to air at 5:50 PM today on Vermont Public Radio, political reporter Bob Kinzel confirms to me.
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In an excerpt Kinzel gave me, Dean says:
"This is essentially the collapse of health care reform in the United States Senate. Honestly the best thing to do right now is kill the Senate bill, go back to the House, start the reconciliation process, where you only need 51 votes and it would be a much simpler bill."
Kinzel added that Dean essentially said that if Democratic leaders cave into Joe Lieberman right now they’ll be left with a bill that’s not worth supporting.
You should have seen it. Dean was very upset. And I said Obama begged. It was written all over that face of his today durning his speech.
Dean's been right about a lot of things...maybe the Dems should start over...
Good luck passing this bill after Howard Dean the cheerleader for healthcare reform says this is not a healthcare reform bill and what they do have is expensive!
He said it on msnbc, so you were probably the only one watching.
Thanks to youtube and this thread.....You can watch.
So what will that change?
What is Howard Dean's position in the Democratic Party?
Some peoples opinions about this bill. Maybe this will lead to killing the bill. They really have nothing now anyways except of course trying to make Obama look somewhat competent.
Who listened to Howard Dean in the past?
What is his position in the Democratic Party?
what a at least wear a tie
The dynamic is very different. Americans expected rapid economic change and a new political environment in Washington. They got neither, and they're going to take it out on Democrats unless people start getting jobs. Right now Dems are in danger of hemorrhaging if they do not bring their base back into the fold. On the war, on healthcare, and on the economy, the base is not happy and many are apathetic about voting. Obama's not on the ticket; people can't just ride his coattails like last time.
Howard Dean is irrelevant. The only thing that matters is getting Lieberman on board.
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