I Think We Should Go After Camby

[lennyalderette]

i have been saying camby for like three years, it wouldnt be suprising to me if we got him right now, he fits our perfect trade lol great player in his prime, older than 33 oh and plays D. why in the did we keep gettin old pf's and C'rs ! screw it better late than never we need something

[mountainballer]

of course Haywood is a good idea. funny thing is, Wizards fans on realgm also talk about a trade with the Spurs. and about the great idea to get Splitter in this trade. (idiots even talk about the cheap rookie contract Splitter would get for the next 4 years)
however, of course getting Haywood by sacrifice Splitters rights is a bad idea. could turn into another Scola story.
so, if the Wizards in fact put Haywood on the market, what's the price. it's not that other teams wouldn't show a lot of interest. not only the Spurs feel that they need more size to be able to match up with the Lakers. think about what for example Blazers could offer. so, if the Spurs don't want to give up Splitter, the Wizards will ask for Blair IMO.

[Chieflion]

of course Haywood is a good idea. funny thing is, Wizards fans on realgm also talk about a trade with the Spurs. and about the great idea to get Splitter in this trade. (idiots even talk about the cheap rookie contract Splitter would get for the next 4 years)
however, of course getting Haywood by sacrifice Splitters rights is a bad idea. could turn into another Scola story.
so, if the Wizards in fact put Haywood on the market, what's the price. it's not that other teams wouldn't show a lot of interest. not only the Spurs feel that they need more size to be able to match up with the Lakers. think about what for example Blazers could offer. so, if the Spurs don't want to give up Splitter, the Wizards will ask for Blair IMO.

Found that thread page.
http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtop...5659&start=180
It is not that scary. Plus, it is not as if Splitter gets traded for practically nothing, if Haywood stays after 2010. Like HarlemHeat37 said, Splitter may or may not blossom in the NBA. Besides, this is the year the Spurs are going all in. Management may not do this deal just because of Splitter, maybe throw in the 2010 1st round pick to the Wizards instead of Splitter.

[Supergirl]

who would we give up to get him? McDyess?

[baseline bum]

Camby's defense is ridiculously overrated, and his horrible offensive skills would cripple our starting lineup even worse. I get no pleasure out of saying I told you so now, but what this team could clearly use is Bruce Bowen. Bogans is way too much of an offensive liability to play as big a role as Bruce, and he's not as good defensively either. Keith definitely has his moments, but he doesn't have anything approaching the consistency of old #12.

[Supergirl]

Camby's defense is ridiculously overrated, and his horrible offensive skills would cripple our starting lineup even worse. I get no pleasure out of saying I told you so now, but what this team could clearly use is Bruce Bowen. Bogans is way too much of an offensive liability to play as big a role as Bruce, and he's not as good defensively either. Keith definitely has his moments, but he doesn't have anything approaching the consistency of old #12.

well, it took Bowen a little while to settle into the team, too. Bogans has only been a Spur for a couple months.

The big question is whether Hill or Bogans will be most ready to guard the top offensive players come playoff time. Maybe a combo of them both.

I agree that Camby is overrated, but the one thing he has that the Spurs lack right now is SIZE. As good as Blair and McDyess CAN be - they are both undersized.

[sananspursfan21]

i'd rather have dalembert, or maybe sean williams from the nets. williams would be cheap, young and he's a future camby

[z0sa]

Camby's defense is ridiculously overrated, and his horrible offensive skills would cripple our starting lineup even worse. I get no pleasure out of saying I told you so now, but what this team could clearly use is Bruce Bowen. Bogans is way too much of an offensive liability to play as big a role as Bruce, and he's not as good defensively either. Keith definitely has his moments, but he doesn't have anything approaching the consistency of old #12.

Honestly, the Spurs not resigning Bowen is about as close an act of betrayal as there is, IMO (the Spurs had no reason to go in another direction, having ballsed all out with the RJ trade).. he isn't 2007 Bruce obviously, but the 2009 Bruce was underplayed and underrated now that we see Bogans attempting to take his place. Bowen's shooting is missed, especially. He could have still earned a niche on this squad as long as he shot 40% from 3.

As it is, the rest of our perimeter is too stacked offensively for an offensively inconsistent and good-but-not-incredible+undersized defender in Bogans.

[rascal]

I called that a trade of Dalembert and Iguodala for Manu last year would be a good trade for the spurs. TPark/EricB and others wanted no part of that trade. That trade would look great for the spurs today.

[ElNono]

I called that a trade of Dalembert and Iguodala for Manu last year would be a good trade for the spurs. TPark/EricB and others wanted no part of that trade. That trade would look great for the spurs today.

Why would Philadelphia do that at all? Even more so last year?

[rascal]

Honestly, the Spurs not resigning Bowen is about as close an act of betrayal as there is, IMO (the Spurs had no reason to go in another direction, having ballsed all out with the RJ trade).. he isn't 2007 Bruce obviously, but the 2009 Bruce was underplayed and underrated now that we see Bogans attempting to take his place. Bowen's shooting is missed, especially. He could have still earned a niche on this squad as long as he shot 40% from 3.

As it is, the rest of our perimeter is too stacked offensively for an offensively inconsistent and good-but-not-incredible+undersized defender in Bogans.

Bowen would not be a savior to the defense. Move on!!

The spurs need another defensive big to clog the lane and take away easy interior scoring.

[Chomag]

i'd rather have dalembert, or maybe sean williams from the nets. williams would be cheap, young and he's a future camby

Both have a Bball IQ of a brick though.

[in2deep]

Dalember AND Igoudala for Manu's corpse

[ElNono]

The spurs need another defensive big to clog the lane and take away easy interior scoring.

I'm sure that would have stopped Channing Frye and Dragic from nailing threes all night...

[rascal]

Why would Philadelphia do that at all? Even more so last year?

The point was not if Philly would do the trade the point is that you and others thought that was a terrible trade for the Spurs back then.

[iggypop123]

any trade for camby would probably start with hill and blair so i doubt it gets anywhere

[ElNono]

I called that a trade of Wade and Haslem for Manu last year would be a good trade for the spurs...

I called that a trade of Brooks and Scola for Manu last year would be a good trade for the spurs...

I called that a trade of Devin Harris and Brook Lopez for Manu last year would be a good trade for the spurs...


See, I can do it too!!!

[rascal]

I called that a trade of Wade and Haslem for Manu last year would be a good trade for the spurs...

I called that a trade of Brooks and Scola for Manu last year would be a good trade for the spurs...

I called that a trade of Devin Harris and Brook Lopez for Manu last year would be a good trade for the spurs...


See, I can do it too!!!

You did not call anything.

[ElNono]

The point was not if Philly would do the trade the point is that you and others thought that was a terrible trade for the Spurs back then.

I'm not sure it's as great a trade as you think, even right now... I mean, the incentive for the Spurs is Iguodala, because Dalembert is barely better than Theo...

I believe the point in this thread is to try to land Camby without getting rid of any of the big 3... I could be wrong though...

[Supergirl]

Jeez, people are stuck on Bowen in the same way they're still stuck on Robinson. They were both tremendous players, irreplaceable, but like all of us do, THEY GOT OLD. There is a reason they both retired. It's not like we let Bowen go because we were stingy or because we wanted to, it's not like he's tearing it up somewhere else. HE RETIRED. He retired because he got OLD. It's not his fault or ours, it's just life.

[ElNono]

You did not call anything.

I just did... I didn't have to explain how could it be all worked out... It was fun!

[AFBlue]

i'd rather have dalembert, or maybe sean williams from the nets. williams would be cheap, young and he's a future camby

You'd rather have a guy (Dalembert) that is far less proven and makes more money for a longer period of time or a guy that can't buy minutes on a lottery-bound Nets team?

I'm not a proponent of a Camby trade given the likely cost (Hill? Blair?) and additional chemistry concerns, but I HAD to comment on this one.

If, and I say IF, the Spurs were to entertain a trade for another big, it would have to be someone that significantly improves their chances against the powerhouse teams. Camby and Biedrins are the only two in my mind that fit the category...but I don't consider either realistic or worth it when you consider what they'll cost.

Again though, Dalembert or Williams? Yeesh.

[HarlemHeat37]

of course Haywood is a good idea. funny thing is, Wizards fans on realgm also talk about a trade with the Spurs. and about the great idea to get Splitter in this trade. (idiots even talk about the cheap rookie contract Splitter would get for the next 4 years)
however, of course getting Haywood by sacrifice Splitters rights is a bad idea. could turn into another Scola story.
so, if the Wizards in fact put Haywood on the market, what's the price. it's not that other teams wouldn't show a lot of interest. not only the Spurs feel that they need more size to be able to match up with the Lakers. think about what for example Blazers could offer. so, if the Spurs don't want to give up Splitter, the Wizards will ask for Blair IMO.

I know you're a fan of Splitter, which is understandable, but it's also a risk to wait for a guy that might not even end up joining the Spurs, isn't it?..just like there's the risk of Splitter becoming a good player and pulling another Scola, there's the chance of Splitter not joining the Spurs, and maybe not even panning out if he does join the team..

I've been wanting Splitter for a while too and I would have different feelings if the team hadn't went all-in already..heavily going over the luxury tax for guys like RJ and McDyess showed this team went deep and wants to win now, so as unlikely as it is(I don't believe we're a contender without a trade), the goal for this year is to ultimately win a le..

why waste another year of Duncan and Manu?..

[Duncan2177]

Camby's defense is ridiculously overrated, and his horrible offensive skills would cripple our starting lineup even worse. I get no pleasure out of saying I told you so now, but what this team could clearly use is Bruce Bowen. Bogans is way too much of an offensive liability to play as big a role as Bruce, and he's not as good defensively either. Keith definitely has his moments, but he doesn't have anything approaching the consistency of old #12.

Camby's defense is ridiculously overrated? Are you kidding? He would bring that size and length against the lakers and don't forget he has won a defensive player of the year award he would also be a major upgrade at the five than what we have right now.

[LOL@MavsFan]

Alright another "we need Camby" thread. Could it be b/c the Spurs lost?