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  1. #26
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    Can people dial back the "Worst Trade of All-Time" talk? At least that's what Bill "The Sports Putz" Simmons says. That was clearly a trade that should be win-win for both teams: Mavs get a better PG to help them win NOW, while the Nets got a nice piece for the future.

    For a Celtics fan, he sure seems to have forgotten about Tony Delk and Rodney Rogers for Joe Johnson.
    Nah, that trade was spectacular because by moving JJ Chris Wallace got to clear playing time for his lottery draft pick, future super-star Kedrick Brown.

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    until they get to the Finals twice or how about even make the playoffs, Devin Harris aint done for that franchise
    Until the Mavs choke away a 2-0 lead in the NBA finals against a much crapier team than them, Jason Kidd aint done for that franchise.

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    Jason Kidd > Manu

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    Jason Kidd > Manu
    Barbaro > Manu

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    until they get to the Finals twice or how about even make the playoffs, Devin Harris aint done for that franchise
    You realize that Harris has a very ty team round him, right?

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    You realize that Harris has a very ty team round him, right?
    A ty team in which he's not even the best player on. Everyone knows that.

  7. #32
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    Jason Kidd > Manu
    Harris > Kidd > Manu > Dirk

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    You realize that Harris has a very ty team round him, right?
    You realize they were a borderline playoff team before Harris got traded there, right?

  9. #34
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    You realize they were a borderline playoff team before Harris got traded there, right?
    Yeah, byt they got worse from that point

  10. #35
    adolis is altuve’s father monosylab1k's Avatar
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    Yeah, byt they got worse from that point
    Why? they just made a blockbuster steal of a raping of a trade with Dallas, which should have improved their team by leaps and bounds according to all the Spurs fans here.

  11. #36
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    You realize that Harris has a very ty team round him, right?
    I thought Devin was supposed to be a #1 piece?

  12. #37
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    I thought Devin was supposed to be a #1 piece?
    He is doing the best he can.

    But there is such a negative energy around that franchise right now...

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    He is doing the best he can.
    So he's that bad?

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    So let me get this straight - With Jason Kidd the Nets were a borderline playoff team. After making the TRADE OF THE MILLENIUM and getting Devin Harris Christ, not only do they miss the playoffs, but rather than try to build a championship roster around HarrisChrist/Carter/Jefferson the GM decides to blow the whole thing up and rebuild.

    Makes sense

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    The truth is that Kidd has more left in the tank than people gave him credit for and Harris got more touches last year as a co #1 option in NJ than as a #4 option in Dallas. It's not a bad trade for either team: Kidd wasn't going to stick around for that mess, so the Nets got something for him, and Kidd is a much better option for the Mavs with Dirk's window closing.

    Harris is a good player, but I think teams are learning how to defend him better...especially without Vince Carter to worry about. If his jumper has regressed, he becomes an infinitely more mortal player. You can just pack the lane on him. I think it's obvious by now that his status as a cornerstone for a franchise to build around is in flux. He can be part of a contending team's core, but he can't be your main piece. If the latter were the case, the Nets wouldn't be 2-23 or whatever they are now.

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    Anyway, right now: Nets > Spurs

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    As I said last year while everybody was gushing over this trade, Harris is very overrated..he has also become a horrible defender as he's established himself as an offensive threat..

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    I remember the Mavs nation was feeling so blue... this time last year... 121-97 loss to the Nets where Devin exploded for over 40 points and 10 assists.

    Just goes to show how quickly perceptions can change... especially about that trade. I don't think regardless of how this season turns out Mavs fans will say "if only we had Devin...".

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    do people really still talk about this trade? Really sad how people still talk about it. It happened so long ago here's what we all should know

    Kidd is old and Harris will never be as good as Kidd. Now with that said everyone should stop watching basketball and go find Pikey and Frankie and met them, because Pikey and Frankie are both better then Kidd and Harris put together

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    You realize they were a borderline playoff team before Harris got traded there, right?
    Vince Carter
    Richard Jefferson

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    lol, thread.

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    Yeah, that's my point. Did you even read what I posted ON THIS SAME PAGE?

    So let me get this straight - With Jason Kidd the Nets were a borderline playoff team. After making the TRADE OF THE MILLENIUM and getting Devin Harris Christ, not only do they miss the playoffs, but rather than try to build a championship roster around HarrisChrist/Carter/Jefferson the GM decides to blow the whole thing up and rebuild.

    Makes sense
    At least now it's confirmed you're a in re .

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    If anything Devin has seriously regressed ever since he left the Mavs. The freedom of being the number 1 option on offense has made him forget everything that once made him good, defense, penetrate and dish, fast breaks. He has become a bad volume shooter, and nothing more.

    Same thing happened to Smokey when Avery wanted to build him up as 1b option on offense, he stopped doing the things that made him successful up until that point.

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    Good trade for both teams. It should just be left at that.
    Kidds played fantastic this year for us.

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    If anything Devin has seriously regressed ever since he left the Mavs. The freedom of being the number 1 option on offense has made him forget everything that once made him good, defense, penetrate and dish, fast breaks. He has become a bad volume shooter, and nothing more.

    Same thing happened to Smokey when Avery wanted to build him up as 1b option on offense, he stopped doing the things that made him successful up until that point.
    Matzel, matzel, good things.

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