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  1. #26
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    If the call could have gone either way, say... deciding between a block or a charge, I could understand the superstar getting the call. But it was an obvious travel before the shot, and shouldn't have counted. Superstars are certainly favored by the law, but shouldn't be above it.
    I understand that, but you can't start reviewing every single borderline end-game call. Certainly not fouls. It's a judgement thing...just like pass interference in the NFL -- non-reviewable.

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    I understand that, but you can't start reviewing every single borderline end-game call. Certainly not fouls. It's a judgement thing...just like pass interference in the NFL -- non-reviewable.
    This wasn't just a foul call, though, it was a case of continuation or no continuation. 2 points or none. I'm okay with Bryant getting the benefit of the call and getting a block call, but the Lakers were given 2 free points.

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    If the call could have gone either way, say... deciding between a block or a charge, I could understand the superstar getting the call. But it was an obvious travel before the shot, and shouldn't have counted. Superstars are certainly favored by the law, but shouldn't be above it.
    Obvious calls get missed all the time involving superstars and role players. It's the human error of having refs on the floor. The only way to prevent it is for someone to invent robotic refs. The Bucks got the benefit of plenty of calls in the game as well.

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    First of all in real-time it is very hard to tell if Bogut's feet were actually set. Watching the super slow-mo replay I think he got there just in the nick of time and the correct call would be the charge on Kobe, but at game speed the tie always goes to the runner.

    Bucks threw away multiple opportunities to win this game and got their fair share of calls as well. It all evens out in the end. They choked, hard. Kobe was clutch. Lakers win.

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    OP's correct, it was a charge and a travel, Kobe got the call and the shot, not much else to say other then it was the wrong call on both, Lakers lucked out. That aside, the Bucks should have done everything to deny Kobe or double him and force someone else to take that final shot.

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    these are the types of games that make you realize you shouldn't take the NBA seriously or put too much emotion into it..I learned to get over it last year..obviously it still angers me, but I got over it quickly..the NBA is entertainment and they make the moves to help the Lakers..

    LOL @ Avery Johnson calling the refs out..
    Avery should know, he certainly got screwed by them.

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    lol at giving Kobe two chances to make the exact same shot.

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    bucks had all the chances to win this game... TWICE

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    Obvious blocking foul, good call by the ref(s).


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    You can't about a superstar getting a superstar call. They earned that .
    ya know? i actually agree. they got to the point where they're fan faves.

    man, this is like watching a bunch of black people hatin on the popos

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    Obvious blocking foul, good call by the ref(s).

    clear travel..if it was a blocking foul, it clearly shouldn't have been continuation..

    -travel
    -blocking foul without continuation
    -charge

    only 3 options here..Bucks get screwed either way..Lakers get away with it, as usual..

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    only 3 options here..Bucks get screwed either way..Lakers get away with it, as usual..
    Realistically that charge or block call could have gone either way. To say it was obviously a charge, is false. There was no travel that could have been called on the play because the foul came before the travel. The mistake was it should have been 2 FTs for Kobe, rather than +1. Missing a travel call after contact like that is a human error but understandable. It's hard to focus on watching for a travel on a play that happens that fast and where you get distracted by the contact that occurred.

    Lakers get away with it as usual? LOL. The Lakers sure are in your head.

    Let me point out a play you remember. Fisher's .4 shot. Remember when Tim Duncan hit the shot that looked like the game winner? If you look at the replay you'll see that Tim traveled right before he took the shot. He shuffled his pivot foot before he took the shot. Lakers get away with it? No. Spurs get away with it.

    Then the replay clearly showed that the ball went through the basket with .8 seconds left on Duncan's shot. By rule the clock must stop when the ball goes through the basket on a made shot. Yet the refs only allowed .4 to remain on the clock. Lakers get away with it? No. Lakers get screwed.

    Then Fisher hits the shot and the Spurs cry he couldn't have made the shot with .4 left. Well it's irrelevant because he actually should have had .8 left and Tim Duncan traveled. Lakers get away with it? No. Justice was served.

    Point is the calls go both ways, sometimes wrong, sometimes right. But if you want to keep believing "the Lakers get away with it as usual," be my guest since it must make you feel better.
    Last edited by namlook; 12-17-2009 at 04:46 AM.

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    Stern hates Australia, nothing new.

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    Stern hates Australia, nothing new.
    I think it was a bad shrimp they fed him off the barbie when he was down there. Bogut is an a-hole anyway so who cares?

    He can't even get his own teammates to high five him.

    Bogut high-fives himself:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc11PUnFgkQ
    Last edited by namlook; 12-17-2009 at 04:49 AM.

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    Start at 16 seconds.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEYwmLDyy-8

    Not only was it a block, but he flopped too.
    Last edited by picc84; 12-17-2009 at 09:58 AM.

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    Bogart is a large man who flops instead of defending….The refs made the correct call…It is time to stop rewarding the Euro flop…

    The part I didn’t get was on the buzzer beater the Bucks made no effort to stop Kobe from getting the ball…They just let him get the inbound pass & jog the ball up to his shot…

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    Bogart is a large man who flops instead of defending….The refs made the correct call…It is time to stop rewarding the Euro flop…

    The part I didn’t get was on the buzzer beater the Bucks made no effort to stop Kobe from getting the ball…They just let him get the inbound pass & jog the ball up to his shot…
    I would bet that Australia is not part of Europe. Wanna have a sig bet? And it definitely was not a flop.

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    I would bet that Australia is not part of Europe. Wanna have a sig bet? And it definitely was not a flop.
    It's called a euro-flop because so many european players do it. But you don't need to be european to engage in this behavior!

    Even if contact occurred it doesn't mean a player didn't flop. Bogut definitely appeared to exaggerate the contact. That's considered flopping.

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    It's called a euro-flop because so many european players do it. But you don't need to be european to engage in this behavior!

    Even if contact occurred it doesn't mean a player didn't flop. Bogut definitely appeared to exaggerate the contact. That's considered flopping.
    Just switch your allegiances to Los Angeles Lakers, dumb . Kobe bowled Bogut over with his shoulder.

    On the bolded part, in that case, every player in the NBA flops.

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    Just switch your allegiances to Los Angeles Lakers, dumb . Kobe bowled Bogut over with his shoulder.

    On the bolded part, in that case, every player in the NBA flops.
    A flop is a flop and Bogut flopped like a european fish. He should win an aussie academy award for that act.

    Also, bring on the technical fouls for this kind of acting. That will put an end to the BS.

    Slow motion video---> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2G6LymlDMk

    Look at Bogut shuffle his feet and then fly back like he was hit with a cannonball. Call it like it is:

    Block and FLOP!!!!


    Last edited by namlook; 12-17-2009 at 12:29 PM.

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    The Laker Bois.
    *winning* it with class, once again.

    More products for me to sell their gullible fans.

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    http://www.nba.com/analysis/rules_c....av=ArticleList

    For those who obviously can't tell what a charge vs. a block is.

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    it wasnt a travel you re s. he took one step as he gathered the ball, took two steps as he spun, and shot the ball.

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    I didnt et to watch the game yesterday, cause I am out of town. But it looked like the wrong call just looking at it.

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