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if they can afford it they can pay what they want. i wasnt exactly happy when i heard though. give it one more season and theyll be an even higher paid coach
AUSTIN, Texas (AP) -- Some University of Texas faculty question whether football coach Mack Brown is worth $5 million annually when the school faces tough budget choices.
University system regents last week decided Brown deserved more money, raising his annual pay from $3 million. The Longhorns on Jan. 7 will face fellow unbeaten Alabama for the BCS championship.
A resolution approved Monday, in an informal vote during a UT Faculty Council meeting, said the $5 million deal was "unseemly and inappropriate." The group lacked a quorum for an official vote.
UT President William Powers Jr. says the athletic program, under Brown, has had no subsidies or deficits and has channeled $6.6 million into academic programs in recent years.
Brown's salary is paid with money raised by athletic department revenues.
Hmm, looks to me somebody forgot to tell them that the year before Mack came to Texas the football program made $22 million. This year they made approx $87 million. $65 mil extra per year seems to be well worth the $5 mil they're paying. Actually, it looks a bit low when you look at how much extra $$$ he has been directly responsible for generating.
if they can afford it they can pay what they want. i wasnt exactly happy when i heard though. give it one more season and theyll be an even higher paid coach
They should ban those profs from accepting any funding generated by the athletic program, then ask them how they feel about it. Mack is probably the most visible representative of the school and should be paid accordingly.
On one hand, the program does bring in a lot of money and is a terrific marketing tool.
On the other hand, they are absolutely right that schools over-emphasize athletics. It's not changing any time soon - but it is true.
Yeah, but our country and economy is founded on a supply and demand system and when the demand for Texas Football is through the roof and people are paying big $$$ for it the chief players responsible for the supply are going to make a killing. You're right, that's never going to change, but I don't think it should. If you generate a ton of cash you deserve a good piece - it's performance based compensation and that's what we all want.
they dont emphasize athletics, they emphasize FOOTBALL
there are only a handfull of schools in america that make money off of basketball, and no other sports come close to making a significant profit.
i know $5 M is too much to pay a coach but these guys speaking out should try to go a beautiful mind or neil armstrong or something. step your game up
I thought UT faculty members were smart.
They are. Doesn't mean they don't have a right to be upset at the startling contrast between his raise and their layoffs. Even if it is a good business decision, it's still frustrating to see that, I would imagine.
They really don't have much of a right to be upset.
Athletics are primarily self funding and UT is #1 at raising cash.
If it was a number of other school athletic budgets that are strapped for cash and having to borrow money directly from the school (i.e. A&M) that would be one thing. But Texas has money coming out of it's ass and the faculty are jealous that they aren't getting a direct cut of some kind.
I think what SHOULD change is the society where boosters are more willing to fund giant scoreboards than they are chemistry labs.
-says the guy on a sports message forum.
It's not going to change though - at least not soon.
I'm sure they get a crap load of money from alumni that goes towards academics. Plenty of rich people graduate from Texas, doctors, scientists ect., there is a reason people pay tens of thousands a semester to go there.
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In 2007-2008
Total sports revenue
1. Texas – $120.3 million
2. Ohio State – $118 million
3. Florida – $106 million
4. Michigan – $99 million
5. Wisconsin – $93.5 million
6. Penn State – $91.6 million
7. Auburn – $89.3 million
8. Alabama – $88.9 million
9. Tennessee – $88.7 million
10. Oklahoma State – $88.6 million
Football revenue
1. Texas $72.95 million
2. Georgia $67.05 million
3. Florida $66.1 million
4. Ohio State University $65.16 million
5. Notre Dame $59.77 million
6. Auburn $59.67 million
7. Michigan $57.46 million
8. Alabama $57.37 million
9. Penn State $53.76 million
10. Louisiana State University $52.68 million
Plus the athletic department has given up to $6 million to academics the past couple years. It's a college, not a HS, if they want to focus on sports they can. No one forces the students to pay $20,000 a year to go there.
I'm not arguing otherwise.
I'm only saying that in an ideal world (not this one), the funding would be 90:1 academics:football.
It was interesting news...
1. Brown isn't the best coach in the country
2. He wasn't going anywhere
3. I doubt he's unhappy
...so the raise probably could have waited or never come. t.u. had come off some average years before Mack got there, so its not like any other good coach couldn't have restored that cash cow. Imo, he probably deserved a raise, but the timing is off and it does seem excessive.
Brown's a good coach. But to have only 2 conference les in 12 years with the resources, recruiting base, and fan support available to him does not make for the best coach in the country.
Up until two weeks ago, Bill Snyder had just as many conference les, 11 win seasons, and only one fewer BCS bowl appearances - with FAR FAR FAR less advantages.
Plus, any coach who goes 0-2 against Ron Prince is ineligible for being called the best coach in the country.
Mack's a solid coach, but there are a lot of guys who could win - and win BIG - at texas.
I was about to chime in, but it looks like I don't have to now, lol. Brown's a good coach, but I do think there are coaches who would done more at t.u., all things equal.
1. Carroll
2. Meyer
3. Saban
...I can say, strongly, that those are better coaches and most won't disagree. But, and I'll ruffle some feathers, I think mike riley, Jim harbough, Petrino and les miles are also better....and you could make an argument for others.
Although, being the head coach of t.u isn't just about coaching football, and Mack does 'those' things very well.
There's no doubt Mack's not the best coach in the country, but I don't think there are a lot of people that could do great at Texas. To win at Texas you have to recruit Texas, and I have doubts the north east and New England guys could recruit Texas anywhere near Mack. Mack is the good 'ol southern boy and his personality has allowed him to set up a pipeline with Texas HS coaches as well as relate to recruits and parents in Texas. The part that was always missing was the Xs and Os and the great defensive coach and top assistants around him to take the program into NC contender status, and that has happened in recent years especially now with Muschamp who is helping to recruit top notch talent outside of Texas too such as Jordan Hicks.
Carroll is just as much of a recruiter/coach as Mack is. Les Miles is not what I would call a great coach either - his game/clock management is godawful.
It's not just about being a recruiter, it's about being able to effectively recruit your target area. Carroll's laid back liberal type personality is perfect for recruiting California and other similar areas but might not be ideal for recruiting more conservative areas like the south. Mack's is tailor made for recruiting Texas.
Leach (California) & Sherman (Northeast) have both recruited well in Texas, both doing so at schools that don't have quite the national prestige of UT. Even Mackovic recruited well to the school, just didn't know what do with 'em once they were there.
What held Texas back in previous years was the dying SWC. Once they got into the Big 12 (and got a MUCH MUCH sweeter deal than they should have), a lot of coaches could pick whatever recruits they wanted from within the borders.
None of that is to take anything away from what Mack Brown has done. , he recruited well to North Carolina too.
What? The lack of partial qualifiers?and got a MUCH MUCH sweeter deal than they should have
Texas is the #1 hotbed for pure football talent in the nation so a lot of coaches can recruit well, but it's not about just that. It's about building that pipeline where you pull in the best of the best consistently, and Mack is now doing that consistently. Sure there are many factors - Leach runs a pass heavy offense so his system is appealing to some QBs and especially receivers - which is why is beat recruits were Welker and Crabtree - both receivers. Sherman brings his NFL experience and can play the "Ill get you ready for the NFL because Ive been there" card.
That said, Mack has done a great job of siphoning the cream off the top of the pool and now with Muschamp are also looking to be able to raid other states for their top player.
9-3 vote for any changes, no shared TV revenue, TV contracts with an exclusive rights windows. not only caters well to UT, but helps to hold the have-nots in the conference down.
Whoever said Mack Brown is a good football coach is just wrong. He wins because his teams are more talented that the team on the other side of the ball. Plus anyone who allows Greg Davis to continue to exist is not very smart football-wise.
Whisky Dog pretty much hit it on the head. Brown has the inside line on almost every top recruit in the best high school football state in the nation. You couple that with a promising young defensive coordinator and you got a recipe for a team that can compete nationally every single year...mostly on talent alone. For these reasons, no one should complain about the raise.
lester miles is better than mack brown?
hyeah right
youre better off listing coaches with one good season in a row, harbaugh, dabo sweeney, mike stoops
People don't pay $20 to watch someone take a math test or write a term paper on Kant. Get over it, he is worth every penny they pay him. Longhorns care about winning.
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