Why is it that most of their data is about gay men yet they keep using the phrase "gay men and lesbians"? Monogamy and length of relationships are very different in lesbian relationships versus gay men.
I'd like to see where they got their sample size of straight people and gay men. Because there's a lot more kinky, nonmonogamous straight people than this survey wants to pretend exist. And then there's all the straight people who cheat because they're too chicken to admit they don't want to try and take a vow of monogamy.
Also, where's the analysis of the impact of living in a relationship that is subject to phobia and denial of basic human rights? Because yeah, that would cause some stress on anyone's relationship.
The methods are faulty, their analysis is pisspoor, and their ends are purely political, aimed at denying a minority civil rights. Great side to be on, guys.
Deciding to be in a sexual relationship does not put you in a minority grouping.
It seems they collected all the information that was already out there. Maybe you should check their sources if you don't believe it. Then you can come here with some valid arguments. Instead of just discrediting the paper because you don't believe in the findings.
I distinctly remember someone else who's been called out in this thread.
The irony in you being critical of how others react to being called out.
You going to post those Tyson Foods pay check stubs today?
I had no idea that so many people were in favour of participating - through the state - in the sanctioning of dad-daughter marriages, polygamist marriages and stuff like that.
how many are in favor?
Because altering an arbitrary definition (prescribed by the State) necessarily entails abandonment of legitmately-defensible public policies that would preclude taking the redefinition to absurd lengths.
Methinks your slippery slope isn't particularly steep (or slippery).
I didn't count them, but almost everybody in this thread that has defended that the state should sanction gay marriages.
Right, and all the straw men you created support incest and polygamy.
I'm not sure I've ever seen B2B go nuclear like he has in this thread.
wow.
it's a whole lot more fun to brag about how much of a stud you are when you are single.
not so much when you are married.
He talked a lot of (attacked me and my kids) and I asked him to back it up and prove to all of us that I in fact make diddly and he is as successful as he makes himself out to be.I'm not sure I've ever seen B2B go nuclear like he has in this thread.
wow.
He refused.
I don't know if the guy is married or has kids or what but I doubt he makes more than I do "met" packing at Tyson Foods.
At least when I insult someone I'm willing to go the extra mile to back it up or at least be broad in my approach of attack...like race or something. To specifically target my work. My kids. My wife all of which he knows zero about is pretty weak. I flipped the table and offered him a real opportunity to embarrass me. Then the back peddling started.
He's doing me a favor...there not my kids...chill out its just the internet.
BORING.
Come on jack. Lets go get a cup of coffee.
How many so-called phobes are actually afraid of gay people? phobe is an overused and misused word. Just because you disagree with the gay lifestyle and/or believe that sexuality is morally wrong because of your religious beliefs does not make you a phobe or gay hater.
It specifically makes you a gay hater if you continue to support gays being discriminated.
just let it slide. who the cares what he says or posts? it's cyberspace not real life. no sense in stressing over posts that have no real content. i mean what i really read was nothing more than blah, blah, blah, blah, blah and nothing more.
are you afraid that the gays will ruin our society?
Sorry, what are your arguments to defend the state-sanctioning of gay marriages? I thought it was because consenting adults should be allowed to marry and that the reproductive/family issue is irrelevant to the subject.
If you follow the pattern carefully you will see that when it came to "theoretical" sinning, Jesus was very firm in his proclamations, but when it came to dealing with individual sinners, He was compassionate and forgiving.
That's what he's saying: hate the sin, not the sinner.
While I have personal beliefs about sin, I also do not believe the state should enforce them. I find greed sinful and think it is more harmful to our society than sexual relationships are.
I also can not stand studies that are biased, insincere, and statistically meaningless- like this one is.
Neither does he, it seems to me. I haven't read anybody here saying that we should turn "sins" into crimes.
Maybe it is. As you do nothing besides name-calling, that remains to be proved.
I didn't see any name calling in his last few posts.
Most statistical surveys are meant to be representative of the entire pool since it would be all but impossible to survey every single human being on the face of the planet or to assume that everyone is always honest when surveyed.
What I find amusing is that one side will always discredit a survey if they don't agree with its implications. Yet how many times have they posted random surveys of their own to legitimize their views?
They can't have it both ways.
The same goes for wanting to legitimize their views via the cons utional framework of our laws, yet throwing a fuss if and when Christians try to do the same. As I said earlier, such is the core compromise of a democratic system. Last I checked, 'in-the-closet' or 'out', sexuals are not being denied the right to vote.
These surveys and polls would be perfectly valid if they measured anything close to being comparable.
They don't.
The report comes to the ridiculous conclusion that gays shouldn't be allowed to marry because gays that aren't allowed to marry don't have good marriages like married hetero couples who did not divorce.
It's indefensible. That is apparent since no one here has even tried.
Good God...this thread is full of win!
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