UT Faculty Mad at Mack's raise

[Blake]

Who's the best coach in the country if not Mack Brown?

.....as has already been said....

Brown is the best recruiter in the country, hands down.

He's a mediocre/average Xs and Os coach though, imo.

[Kermit]

Brown is the best recruiter in the country, hands down.

He's a mediocre/average Xs and Os coach though, imo.

You are correct sir.

[mookie2001]

i disagree. thats the reasoning fans of opposing teams use to explain loss after loss to texas- its because texas gets the best of the best, its easy to recruit to austin, they dont recruit, they select, etc...then when they lose hes coach february

if he recruits a wr in high school and moves him to corner, is that not x's and o's? if he gets VY on campus and changes the offense to zone read, is that not x's and o's? lamarr houston to DT, drew kelson to LB is that not x's and o's

to me that is, its not a gamplan or matchup but its x's and o's. im not saying brown revolutionalized modern football, but mediocre? please, you could certainly argue the guys better at "x's and o's" are just as good recruiters, meyer, saban, carroll, its all related

[LOL texans]

5 million well spent

Most faculty member probably don't give a damn about Texas football, so they don't get it I guess.

[In10se]

I remember Will Muschamp saying that football isn't as much about Xs and Os as Willie and Joe's.

[mookie2001]

an age old saying more about effort and execution than recruiting

[In10se]

He meant it in reference to the importance of recruiting well and how that relates to coaching in the piece I heard him speak on. He said that's why he's so big into recruiting and going the extra mile to get guys that fit your program. Probably why he loves working at Texas so much, that's Mack's specialty.

[K-State Spur]

5 million well spent

Most faculty member probably don't give a damn about Texas football, so they don't get it I guess.

yeah...don't they know what the school is for?

[Blake]

if he recruits a wr in high school and moves him to corner, is that not x's and o's? if he gets VY on campus and changes the offense to zone read, is that not x's and o's? lamarr houston to DT, drew kelson to LB is that not x's and o's

to me that is, its not a gamplan or matchup but its x's and o's. im not saying brown revolutionalized modern football, but mediocre? please, you could certainly argue the guys better at "x's and o's" are just as good recruiters, meyer, saban, carroll, its all related

nothing you just said makes any kind of argument for Mack being better than mediocre/average as an Xs/Os coach.

I think the reason I see him as mediocre is because he appears to let the coordinators do all the work.

[Blake]

yeah...don't they know what the school is for?

don't they know how Brown earns his paycheck?

[mookie2001]

moving an X to an O and installing a new offense isnt x's and o's i hear ya

i know how yall work, if he wins, who couldnt with all that talent! and if he losses, just a mediocre coach getting outcoached

[K-State Spur]

don't they know how Brown earns his paycheck?

I'm on record that I don't have a problem with the raise whatsoever. It makes 100% sense in the economics of collegiate athletics.

But I'm not going to fault the faculty for their complaints either. It's a knock against our society and collegiate ins utions that more money is invested in football than any educational department.

[K-State Spur]

moving an X to an O and installing a new offense isnt x's and o's i hear ya

i know how yall work, if he wins, who couldnt with all that talent! and if he losses, just a mediocre coach getting outcoached

It may not be right, but it's about the only advantage that he doesn't have compared to most other coaches.

[symple19]

Give the dude his scrilla - Production = $$$$$$

also, I don't think he's a bad x/o guy. Even if he's not the best one of those, he is definitely one of the best big picture guys, i.e. recruiting/admin/preparation/implementation <--- this is maybe the most important aspect of coaching now anyway.

Finally, as an outsider, it seems he runs a pretty clean program. That is always a good thing.

[In10se]

Isn't the football program not only self funding, but funding pretty much the other athletic programs as well as contributing to the academics as well? It said they put $6 million into the university over the last couple of years, so how is there any reason for the faculty to complain?

I might not have this right, but it looks like the football program is a big money making machine that not only supports itself but also many other parts of the university too.

[elbamba]

I'm on record that I don't have a problem with the raise whatsoever. It makes 100% sense in the economics of collegiate athletics.

But I'm not going to fault the faculty for their complaints either. It's a knock against our society and collegiate ins utions that more money is invested in football than any educational department.

But if that ins ution brings in more money than academics and then can give money to the different departments in the school every one wins. Certainly more money is good for everyone at the university and that is what you get with Brown.

[The Reckoning]

they're pissed because several profs are getting canned after this year, and the school is raising tuition because of the "bad economy" (thak God for the Texas Tomorrow Fund.)

then they go and give the head football coach a raise like this. i can see where the profs are coming from, but i agree that Mack has done a ton for the school.

[johngateswhiteley]

.....as has already been said....

Brown is the best recruiter in the country, hands down.

He's a mediocre/average Xs and Os coach though, imo.

Not many outside the state of Texas would agree. And based upon the only measuring medium we have, you are incorrect.

He's in the top 5, though.

[O-Factor]

Whoever said Mack Brown is a good football coach is just wrong. He wins because his teams are more talented that the team on the other side of the ball. Plus anyone who allows Greg Davis to continue to exist is not very smart football-wise.

Whisky Dog pretty much hit it on the head. Brown has the inside line on almost every top recruit in the best high school football state in the nation. You couple that with a promising young defensive coordinator and you got a recipe for a team that can compete nationally every single year...mostly on talent alone. For these reasons, no one should complain about the raise.

Recruiting is HALF of what it takes to be a college head football coach. Brown is one of the best as is a large part of the reason why he has been so successful.

Just a bunch of hippie-keep Austin weird professors and Phd's who are jealous of the money allocated to the football program.

[chrisattsu]

they're pissed because several profs are getting canned after this year, and the school is raising tuition because of the "bad economy" (thak God for the Texas Tomorrow Fund.)

then they go and give the head football coach a raise like this. i can see where the profs are coming from, but i agree that Mack has done a ton for the school.

If their fields become financially viable (or they obtain funding) then they have a reason to . I have many problems with UT, but unlike many schools in the state, they do not put their budget on the back of the students/admin budget. In terms of athletics, they are totally independent, so if they want to give their coach a raise, more power to to them.