Socialism in Stages

[mogrovejo]

Move to Somalia, mongrovejo. Zero government. Zero regulations. Absolutely 100% Socialism-free.

Perhaps you're confusing a liberal regime with an anarchy?

[PixelPusher]

Perhaps you're confusing a liberal regime with an anarchy?

Your OP confuses government regulation with socialism. par for the course.

[mogrovejo]

Your OP confuses government regulation with socialism. par for the course.

Nah, it makes a different argument. You should re-read it (and the links posted).

[PixelPusher]

Nah, it makes a different argument. You should re-read it (and the links posted).

blah, blah Fannie Mae...blah, blah Universal Health Care...fallacious leap of logic to Soviet Union and our doom...DOOM...DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMM!

[iggypop123]

when is the stage when people get exterminated?

[Winehole23]

Nah, it makes a different argument. You should re-read it (and the links posted).

Always giving assignments but you seldom show your own work, profe.

[Winehole23]

It would have been just as brief to say what you meant, instead of admonishing Pixel to do his homework.

[mogrovejo]

Always giving assignments but you seldom show your own work, profe.

It would have been just as brief to say what you meant, instead of admonishing Pixel to do his homework.

Just for clarification, are you a moderator here?

[mogrovejo]

blah, blah Fannie Mae...blah, blah Universal Health Care...fallacious leap of logic to Soviet Union and our doom...DOOM...DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMM!

There's no leap of logic. If you can prove there's a leap of logic, you're debunking the work of guys who won the Nobel Prize. You can be instantly rich and famous, so what are you waiting for? There are terms in which you can disagree, but I doubt it's a good idea to pursuit the argument of formal mistakes.

[Winehole23]

Just for clarification, are you a moderator here?

Relax. I'm not the fuzz.

[mogrovejo]

Relax. I'm not the fuzz.

But you would like to be, wouldn't you?

It seems to me that you have little interest in discussing issues, but rather on discussing how posters discuss and in assess their behaviour. Am I wrong?

[clambake]

But you would like to be, wouldn't you?

It seems to me that you have little interest in discussing issues, but rather on discussing how posters discuss and in assess their behaviour. Am I wrong?

wtf?

[ChumpDumper]

Oh, there were leaps alright.

So every country with government controlled or regulated health care is destined to fail?

I find that rather simplistic. If there are examples of the complete failure of "soft socialist" countries that had already reached a US or western European level of industrialization, that is the kind of thing that should be discussed here. We are not and never will be the Soviet Union; it's a straw man argument.

It's also fun to see the contradictions in the article saying communism was going to fail no matter what but Reagan should get all the credit for making it happen.

[Winehole23]

But you would like to be, wouldn't you?

I prefer a mod-free, or very lightly moderated board. For myself, I would not choose to be a mod.

[ChumpDumper]

Just for clarification, are you a moderator here?

Just for clarification, are you whining here?

[mogrovejo]

I prefer a mod-free, or very lightly moderated board. For myself, I would not choose to be a mod.

Nice. Do you mind to answer my second question?

[Ignignokt]

Just for clarification, are you whining here?

I've never seen that jab before.

[ChumpDumper]

I've never seen that jab before.

i've never seen the mod one before either.

[Winehole23]

Nice. Do you mind to answer my second question?

Talking about posters is a pastime. Was that your question?

[rjv]

But you would like to be, wouldn't you?

It seems to me that you have little interest in discussing issues, but rather on discussing how posters discuss and in assess their behaviour. Am I wrong?

i love irony.

[ChumpDumper]

So is Portugal a failed state?

It does have a public health care system after all.

[TeyshaBlue]

So is Portugal a failed state?

It does have a public health care system after all.

Not to mention the ing nightmare that is Canada!

[mogrovejo]

Not to mention the ing nightmare that is Canada!

I barely spend any time in Portugal or Canada, but I live in countries with socialized health-care, and PJ O'Rourke is absolutely right: "if you think that health-care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs when it's free".

[ChumpDumper]

Which countries?

Are they failed states like the article says they must be?

[Ignignokt]

Which countries?

Are they failed states like the article says they must be?

the cancer mortality rates compared to the US and britian are an indication.


What is you definition of all this, anyway? A failed state? You want us to find an Industrialized state that was driven into the ground and is in collapse only because of healthcare? Is that what the OP said?