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that fact wouldn't make al franken less of a .
Does Joe really need to speak more?
we just won't know.
Is he a mute now?
Probably not. But Franken should have let him finish.
somebody interrupting somebody while they are talking. this sounds familiar....
Would we be dealing with accusations of censorship and McCarthyism if it was a GOP senator doing this?
Very uncivil from Al Franken's part. That's to be expected though.
I love the face franken made when he said no.
Rookie move. More balls than brains.
SO what? I don't like Franken, but I am all for somebody shaking things up. Maybe it will take somebody who has no idea of how things work in order to rattle the cage. I happen to be all for people rattling the cage, braindead though they may be
Flashback: McCain Refused To Grant 30 Seconds Of Time During Iraq War Debate
Yesterday, Sen. Al Franken (D-MN), acting on the orders of the Senate leadership, refused to grant Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) “an additional moment” to continue speaking on the Senate floor after his 10 minutes expired. Franken’s objection caused Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) to groan about how Franken’s move was unprofessional, unprecedented, and disrespectful:
McCAIN: I’ve been around here 20-some years. First time I’ve ever seen a member denied an extra minute or two to finish his remarks. … I just haven’t seen it before myself. And I don’t like it. And I think it harms the comity of the Senate not to allow one of our members at least a minute. I’m sure that time is urgent here, but I doubt that it would be that urgent.
Unfortunately, McCain’s memory is suffering. In fact, McCain has engaged in the very same behavior that he was criticizing Franken for yesterday.
On October 10, 2002 — just ahead of the looming mid-term elections — the Senate rushed a debate on a war authorization giving President Bush the power to use force against Iraq. The resolution ultimately passed the Senate after midnight on an early Friday morning by a vote of 77-23.
During the course of the frenzied floor debate, then-Sen. Mark Dayton (D-MN) spoke in favor of an amendment offered by Sen. Robert Byrd (D-WV) that would have restricted Bush’s cons utional powers to wage war against Iraq. After a minute and a half, Dayton ran out of time, prompting this exchange:
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator’s time has expired.
Mr. DAYTON. I ask for unanimous consent that I have 30 seconds more to finish my remarks.
Mr. McCAIN. I object.
Byrd stepped in to grant Dayton time to finish his remarks. But just moments later, Byrd asked for more time to speak for himself. Again, McCain objected, prompting Byrd to chide him for doing so. “This shows the patience of a Senator,” Byrd said. “This clearly demonstrates that the train is coming down on us like a Mack truck, and we are not even going to consider a few extra minutes for this Senator.”
After being publicly shamed, McCain acquiesced to Byrd’s request. But moments later, McCain added this disclaimer: “I wish to say very briefly that I understand people have a desire to speak. We have a number of Senators who have not spoken on this issue. It is already looking as if we may be here well into this evening. From now on, I will be adhering strictly to the rules.” In other words, he acted just like Franken did yesterday.
WTG - Repubs have short memories - anything else?
Senators know how much time they have to speak. They need to tailor their remarks thusly, or THE CLOCK might cut them off. Franken was just doing his job. Nothing says he can't enjoy that, though.
What I can't wait for is for the composition of the Senate to change even one seat up or down, and for the Dems to send his NeoCon ass packing over to the the GOP caucus. He'll lose his remaining committee chair, the ability to direct pork back home, and all cred with the strong unions back home, followed shortly by the 2012 Senate election.
Lieberman's boyfriend jumps in and defends him.
Liebermans profoundly deserves all the scorn and disrespect Franken and anybody else heaps on him. Now it's up to the feckless Dems to expulse Lieberman from all Congressional roles and from the Democratic party. But I expect they won't.
I'm not sure what gets shaken up by Franken rudely cutting short Sen. Lieberman's remarks (about a proposal Franken's spokesman said Franken agrees with and supports) -- besides the tender feelings of the GOP, or those of the concerned citizens whose eulogies freshen the mausoleum of political comity.
Maybe.
Last edited by Winehole23; 12-19-2009 at 10:14 PM.
Senator McCain said he'd never seen such behavior in 27 years.After being publicly shamed, McCain acquiesced to Byrd’s request. But moments later, McCain added this disclaimer: “I wish to say very briefly that I understand people have a desire to speak. We have a number of Senators who have not spoken on this issue. It is already looking as if we may be here well into this evening. From now on, I will be adhering strictly to the rules.” In other words, he acted just like Franken did yesterday.
Must have a blind spot.
So McCain is also a extraordinaire as well as a hypocrite and a liar and board Republicans are going to call him out for it.
Right?
Right?
Good luck with that.
give mccain a break. he is old he has selective memory
Apparently so.
politically convenient selective memory apparently..
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