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    were you bloading chodes i said with your v town amigos?
    i'm always bloating chodes. Sometimes with my vtown amigos, sometimes without

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    I think it has to be Courtney Love imho, I just can't see any reason why someone would want to kill this dude. Did Cobain have any major enemies or something like that?
    Axl Rose?

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    Well the "tolerance" variable was used. Severe addict. Which he was. Three times the lethal dose for a severe addict was found...what was it...two days after his death. That's quite impressive. Even for a severe addict most would agree that instant death would ensure even for a severe addict post injection. Quality is of no issue because blood content is blood content. He either took a little of the good stuff or a lot of stuff. Regardless even if he was a super human heroin user three times the lethal dose is incomprehensible here. Even twice would be questionable. Then to have the motor skills to flip the shotgun over and positions yourself awkwardly enough to get the shot off....pretty far out there.
    I don't think there's any point even stating this anymore. I don't know how anyone can think Cobain wasn't a goner after that heroin got in his bloodstream. it, if he was so superhuman that he could survive three times the lethal dose then he should have survived the gunshot also.

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    forgot about that

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    I don't think there's any point even stating this anymore. I don't know how anyone can think Cobain wasn't a goner after that heroin got in his bloodstream. it, if he was so superhuman that he could survive three times the lethal dose then he should have survived the gunshot also.

    I've known someone that had a .47 BAC and lived. Not everybody is the same.

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    I guess we should ask. "whats the highest ever recorded heroin content for someone who's survived".

    Has someone actually survived with that level?

    There have been survivors with BAC well over Gonzo's friends .47. So yes strange things happen. Has it happened to that extent with heroin?

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    I guess we should ask. "whats the highest ever recorded heroin content for someone who's survived".

    Has someone actually survived with that level?
    Yea good idea. Im guessing since "everyone's not the same" someone must have survived with that level...

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    Yea good idea. Im guessing since "everyone's not the same" someone must have survived with that level...
    or double the lethal dose for a severe addict. Even double would be interesting. I'd imagine that there are a few thousand that have survived with a blood content slightly over the lethal limit but twice is doubtful. Three times would be quite the find.

    I did a few searches but came up empty. Anyone else wanna look around.

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    This thread has spam written all over it.

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    Okay here is some interesting .

    Regardless of the specific dose of heroin, the 1.52mg/L blood morphine level in Cobain allows for the conclusion to be made that he was immediately incapacitated or dead based on the simple fact that no other instance exists on record indicating otherwise, even remotely.
    and again

    Garriott & Sturner did not find any blood morphine level over 0.93 mg per litre, i.e. Cobain's blood level was over 50% higher than the highest level they had ever encountered.
    Still would be interesting to find some high content survivors.

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    This thread has spam written all over it.
    and you have chode written all over you. your point?

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    and you have chode written all over you. your point?
    would make for an interesting tramp stamp

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    The word chode or a picture of an actual chode?

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    The word chode or a picture of an actual chode?






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    I understand he shot alot of H, and he probably had more tolerance but he had three times the limit of Heroin. He was already a goner the moment the Heroin got in his system. There was no way he could have proceeded to shoot himself after.

    Here is a picture of Cobain right after the issue, isn't it funny how there's no blood in the vicinity? The police had NOT cleaned up anything at that point because they were still investigating the scene.

    the reason you dont see blood or anything is because that pic doesnt show jack

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    I was reading about patternicity the other day. It was part of human evolution - it was beneficial to early people to hear "patterns" in random noise. Hey, nine times out of ten it was just the grass rustling in the wind, but that tenth time it was a lion or some other predator sneaking up to eat your ass. People now, in the absence of large man-eating predators, have taken it a step further and find conspiracies or plots where there are none, just a random series of events thrown together. Wind rustling in the grass.

    There's no mystery here. Kurt Cobain was a selfish drug addict who killed himself without a thought to his then infant daughter, leaving her in the hands of an equally worthless mother.

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    z0sa, son, you suck at arguing. God bless.

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    I was reading about patternicity the other day. It was part of human evolution - it was beneficial to early people to hear "patterns" in random noise. Hey, nine times out of ten it was just the grass rustling in the wind, but that tenth time it was a lion or some other predator sneaking up to eat your ass. People now, in the absence of large man-eating predators, have taken it a step further and find conspiracies or plots where there are none, just a random series of events thrown together. Wind rustling in the grass.

    There's no mystery here. Kurt Cobain was a selfish drug addict who killed himself without a thought to his then infant daughter, leaving her in the hands of an equally worthless mother.
    So you missed the part about three times the lethal dose for a severe addict. Every study ever done on Heroin concludes that a third of what he took would equate to instant death.

    I have yet to find any case anywhere that showed any amount of survival by even half of what he took. Let alone the ability to flip a gun, reposition it and then pull the trigger with his fully out stretched.

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    So you missed the part about three times the lethal dose for a severe addict. Every study ever done on Heroin concludes that a third of what he took would equate to instant death.

    I have yet to find any case anywhere that showed any amount of survival by even half of what he took. Let alone the ability to flip a gun, reposition it and then pull the trigger with his fully out stretched.
    You've read every study ever done? That's amazing.

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    I have been around heroin addicts and I would have been shocked to see one even pick up a hand gun let alone a shotgun. After shooting up they would just kind of sit there in their own little world. Of course I have seen them take light bumps just to get them going but the hard core addicts that took a good amount couldn't even stand or keep their eyes open.

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    You've read every study ever done? That's amazing.
    Everyone that I read while while bored last night. 12 or so. I couldn't find any survivors with even half of what he took.

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    This is serious ...we NEED to get to the bottom of this!

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