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Right position, wrong player.
TP: 3.53 TOs in 31 minutes per game this season
GHill: 1.17 TOs in 24 minutes per game this season
their AST:TO ratio is about even.
I love GH as much as the next Spurs fan, but is it safe to say that our increase in turnovers this season can mostly be attributed to him? Maybe Pop loves him TOO much?
Right position, wrong player.
TP: 3.53 TOs in 31 minutes per game this season
GHill: 1.17 TOs in 24 minutes per game this season
their AST:TO ratio is about even.
I think Tony has been the bigger problem with turnovers. Uncharacteristically for Tony he has been careless this year.
I couldn't agee more. I am at the point with TP that I can't wait for him to give the ball to someone else so as to not throw it away. Reminds me of how I felt when Bowen use to put the ball on the floor. Maybe, the trade that would make a difference is for that third PG who is assist and defense minded, first.
George Hill sure seems to fit that mindset well.
Who ever seems to touch the ball is turning it over. Tony, unfortunately, he has the ball in his hands the most.
TP right now is ranked number 43 in assist to turn over ratio for PGs at 1.67. He is dead last of all starting PGs this year.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/statis...ntype=2&pos=pg
WOW. Hope he gets his head straight.
At 3.5 turnovers per game which leads all PGs we now know where we need to point the finger.
Nope...Tony Parker and his 5 TOs a game contributes to that.
Why are you pointing fingers at Hill? Parker is the one turning it over!
tony is 4th in that category. still bad though.
Keep on pointing your finger wherever you want but try to bring true stats.
TP9 averages the 7th most TOs in the L.
GHill's average is tied for 134th.
-------------------- GP MPG AST APG TO TOPG AP48M AST/TO
43 Tony Parker, SAS 19 30.9 112 5.9 67 3.5 9.2 1.67
I guess ESPN does not have true stats.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/statis...ntype=2&pos=pg
alone that's a meaningless stat since the best players always leads this category. tha ratio ass/TO is more meaningful.
Disagree.
you said TP is the 1st PG in TO per game. try again.
Of, which TP is dead last in regards to starting PGs.
Nash, 2nd / LBJ, 3rd / TP, 7th/ Howard, 8th / D-will, 10th / KB, 14 th
TO per game alone doesn't say the whole thing.
Last edited by kace; 12-18-2009 at 02:33 PM.
...........and where did you read that. I said he is dead last in asst/TO ratio for starting PGs. Must be interesting arguing a point where you make up what is said by the other guy.
.................and if you look at the stats 3.5 TOs per game ties TP for the league lead in starting PGs with Westbrook. Just follow the espn link.,
false againCAN YOU READ ?
we dont'need stat to see TP is struggling but still, try to bring true ones. that's easy.
Why change your story? I completely agree it doesn't say the whole thing. I completely disagree it's a meaningless stat alone.
I can read what you say, and I can read what is on the espn website. I think I will trust espn statistics more that I will trust your point of view.false again
we dont'need stat to see TP is struggling but still, try to bring true ones. that's easy.
So the consensus is that the culprit ios TP. I agree but why? Could it be due to the fact that he has been asked to be more of a true PG this season than in any other one? And he is trying to do that but is obviously having TO problems because of it. The TP that I'm seeing this year isn't even closely related to the one that played last year or any other one, too. He is god awful as of now and that is a concern.
But what is Pop going to do about it? Should Pop rein him in and start calling the plays? Maybe even switch Mason with RJ. That would allow TP to be TP and be the score first and pass second PG with the starters. It also could help RJ get more involved via the 2nd unit and the small ball it plays, since he needs a spread floor in order to operate more efficiently.
Though I did see signs against GS that the spacing on the floor is getting better I need to see this on a consistent basis before I believe that this team has turned the corner. Anyway GS was decimated with injuries so maybe that really wasn't an indicator as to how this team is progressing.
I'm still in the "Work In Progress" mode and will just wait and see what happens. Eventually they will get it together. Hopefully that will come sooner rather than later.
believe!
read my post. i haven't chage a world. i've said alone, that doesn't say the whole thing. where did i change anything ??????????
best players, and even best playmaker PG always leads TO per game.
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