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    Yes, no, maybe?

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    eh this was supposed to be a poll but there's some kind of glitch in the poll set up.

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    I'm just so happy that the superiors of this website gave UTSA, MMA fans their own forum.

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    yeah!...I think this is my first post in the political section lol


    We're spending too much money combating it when we can be making money from it.

    Also it's pretty damn easy to get a hold of...I've grown up with kids in middle school that would smoke, some even in elementary. I don't support children smoking, but that just shows how easy it is to get a hold of.

    We'd also hurt the outta the Mexican drug cartels ( ty ass brick weed they send over here). It's easy to grow so they make large profits which enables them to buy those bullet proof vests, assault rifles etc.


    It brings even more tourists to the U.S which increases sales of consumer goods thanks to the tourism (Munchies ha) and stuff like that.

    It's also a great way to relieve pain and helps you fall asleep.

    I think the pros outweigh the cons.

    So many uses for this plant, but too many stubborn people.

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    I don't see any cons to weed legalization.

    Pros
    • Grown people should be allowed to do as they wish with their own bodies
    • Weed is awesome
    • Weed should become cheaper without the costs of smuggling it past the DEA
    • Grown people should be allowed to do as they wish with their own bodies
    • It'll be a crushing defeat for the suckers in the prison industrial complex when we don't have to subsidize their business by declaring war on our own citizens.
    • It'll make the police forfeit their "right" to raid a person's possessions and seize property just because he is accused of a marijuana-related "crime"
    • Grown people should be allowed to do as they wish with their own bodies
    • Weed will become much harder for minors to obtain, since drug dealers don't check IDs but pharmacies do. A legal smoking age of 18 would make a lot of sense.
    • People making money off the huge business of the drug trade will have to pay Social Security, Medicare, and income tax just like the rest of us.
    • It'll make our streets way safer, when there's no illegal market for the drug worth killing over anymore.
    • Grown people should be allowed to do as they wish with their own bodies
    • Grown people should be allowed to do as they wish with their own bodies
    • Grown people should be allowed to do as they wish with their own bodies
    • Grown people should be allowed to do as they wish with their own bodies


    Seriously, all but #2 apply to all drugs in the United States though: coke, acid, heroin, etc. Anyone who believes its the government's duty to limit access to substances that could prove dangerous if abused would also have to logically support the abolition of our access tobacco, alcohol, fried foods, McDonalds, and Coke. Plus, you could outlaw watching TV and playing XBox, and all other sorts of things that turn you into a fatass.

    It's an absolute slam-dunk even without the medicinal argument (which is also very compelling).
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    [*]It'll make the police forfeit their "right" to raid a person's possessions and seize property just because he is accused of a marijuana-related "crime"


    That's a huge one right there....


    Plus, it's obvious people are going to use it whether it is legal or not, making it illegal forces people to engage in a criminal activity(with legitimate criminals willing to enage in much more criminal acts) who might otherwise not do so.

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    I don't see any cons to weed legalization.

    The only ones I could really think of would be people driving while they're high and kids using it. There are a lot of people that drive while high, but still it's a pretty dangerous thing to do, and I'm sure even more would do it if it was legalized. There are a lot of stupid people in this country and stupid people do stupid things, you gotta remember that. I'm sure there'd be very strict laws though.

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    Legalize it, and free all the people who are imprisoned for simple possession, and wipe their records clean.

    The Prison Industrial Complex will block legalization with a few well-placed $Ms of their $Bs.

    I expect TX and other backward red-states will be the last, if ever, to legalize.

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    The only ones I could really think of would be people driving while they're high and kids using it. There are a lot of people that drive while high, but still it's a pretty dangerous thing to do, and I'm sure even more would do it if it was legalized. There are a lot of stupid people in this country and stupid people do stupid things, you gotta remember that. I'm sure there'd be very strict laws though.
    You could make the driving impaired argument against us having access to cellphones, and frankly, I doubt a stoner in a Toyota is anywhere close to as much of a danger on the road as some idiot yammering into her cell-phone while at the wheel of her giant SUV. As for the children thing, it sounds like you're contradicting one of your earlier post about just how easy it is for kids to get a hold of it on the black market.

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    I was about to bash Baseline Bum for wanting to group the rest of the trash drugs in with Weed but then I thought how it would actually speed up Darwinism within our society and I was like, feels good man.

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    Government would make a lot by levying on marijuana dealers, and marijuana users would buy it much cheaper after it's legalized, while legalizing marijuana has no actual impact on most of the common people who don't smoke marijuana. Then I mean, why not legalize it?

    I think the only group of people yielding against it are those who currently make a lot of money by selling weeds illegally.

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    Yes it should be legalized.

    There is one issue that would be a big issue if it were to be legalized and that's the process involved with determining if someone is driving under the influence. Its a no brainer that if marijuana was legal it would remain illegal to do certain things or operate certain machinery while under the influence.

    With marijuana testing you could potentially be just as positive for usage after 10 days as you would be after a few hours. What if I smoke on a Tuesday and were pulled over on a Thursday only to be tested positive for driving under the influence. Alcohol and coke are basically 24 hour drugs. The same doesn't apply to dope so how do you go about policing it once it's legal.

    I think this would be a huge issue. Tying up the courts for false or accused DUI's and DWI's.

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    I think it should be legalized.

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    I've never tried weed or really even felt compelled to use it.

    That said, I still think it should be legal. It's idiotic and hypocritical to the nth degree to tell people that it's illegal but alcohol/cigarettes/tobacco are fine for consumption whenever a person wants.

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    I basically feel the answer is so obvious that I'm almost offended there's even a debate.

    This is like debating whether or not we should have civil rights. Or whether or not to use public money to clean drinking water.

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    I basically feel the answer is so obvious that I'm almost offended there's even a debate.

    This is like debating whether or not we should have civil rights. Or whether or not to use public money to clean drinking water.
    +750,000 or so (marijuana-related incarceration rate per year)

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    I think the tide has already turned. The Department of Justice is turning a blind eye to medicinal marijuana use. Maine voters repealed their same sex marriage act, but simultaneously expanded use of marijuana. Polls are showing greater support. It's only a matter of time.

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    I think the tide has already turned. The Department of Justice is turning a blind eye to medicinal marijuana use. Maine voters repealed their same sex marriage act, but simultaneously expanded use of marijuana. Polls are showing greater support. It's only a matter of time.
    It's just stupid. One who has drank a 6 pack and one who has smoked a joint aren't even in the same ballpark of intoxication.

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    Polls are showing greater support. It's only a matter of time.
    maybe. It wouldn't surprise me if I never see it totally legalized in my lifetime.

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    I think the tide has already turned. The Department of Justice is turning a blind eye to medicinal marijuana use. Maine voters repealed their same sex marriage act, but simultaneously expanded use of marijuana. Polls are showing greater support. It's only a matter of time.
    I personally don't think so. No matter how much popular will there is for it, political and corporate interests will ensure its legalization never happens. Legalizing marijuana would so dramatically change and better the world that these corpro ions would have a hard time holding on to their power, or much of it... and they know it.

    Legalizing marijuana wouldn't just be giving people a new drug, it would be giving them a fresh, broad and radical outlook on self, nation and life itself. An outlook that is deeply, deeply an hetical to corporate interests.

    We can't be allowed to think freely. Hence, marijuana won't ever be legal.

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    lol, plenty of people can think freely without having to smoke a plant.


    I know plenty of people that smoke weed and they are still dumbasses.

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    I personally don't think so. No matter how much popular will there is for it, political and corporate interests will ensure it's legalization never happens. Legalizing marijuana would so dramatically change and better the world that these corpro ions would have a hard time holding on to their power, or much of it... and they know it.

    Legalizing marijuana wouldn't just be giving people a new drug, it would be giving them a fresh, broad and radical outlook on self, nation and life itself. An outlook that is deeply, deeply an hetical to corporate interests.

    We can't be allowed to think freely. Hence, marijuana won't ever be legal.
    I don't think free thinking is the reason why it might never be legalized.

    It's pretty much all economical. Tobacco, cotton, paper, and more would all take a big hit.....

    not to mention how it would be hard to tax it if people just grow it in their backyard.

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    lol, plenty of people can think freely without having to smoke a plant.
    Plenty of people can't. Some of them think they can.
    But that's not what my argument was about.

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