This topic is well beyond wether you smoke pot or not. There's a lot of things that would be affected by lifting the prohibition.
Respectfully disagree. Perpetuating drug use is something corporations can get behind. Not to mention the federal government. Control of free thought is second only to $$$. Both liberals and libertarians can get behind it. And someone like Jim Webb, who is neither, is speaking out against incarcerating non-violent offenders and how overwhelmed our criminal justice system is. We're moving in the right direction.
the first step is decriminalization....you can be discriminated against for smoking pot so much easier than other illegal narcotics because it stays in your system longer....thus a coke user can refrain from use for less than a week and come back clean, but a pot user must wait 30-90 days depending on the use to come back clean....if you get into a car accident where someone else is hurt and you happened to smoke over the weekend that can be used against you....also, if you get into a accident at work and they request a urine analysis, as many do.....decriminalization would take care of these issues and put the focus back on those who are under the influence.....
I had a good friend who smoked pot so he could concentrate, from college onwards through a professional engineer career. He assumed, 20 years later, after ADD became a fad diagnosis, that he had it, and pot had allowed him to maintain his attention, similar to many authors who write drunk for the lucidity and creativity.
I'm sure Jesus and his guys got more than a little drunk at The Last Supper
Hey, if Bible-thumpers can make up and believe it, so can I!
Jesus' promoted cannibalism, Hoc Est Corpus Meum, aka, the magical Hocus Pocus.
You are misinterpreting the bible as badly they are boutsy.I had a good friend who smoked pot so he could concentrate, from college onwards through a professional engineer career. He assumed, 20 years later, after ADD became a fad diagnosis, that he had it, and pot had allowed him to maintain his attention, similar to many authors who write drunk for the lucidity and creativity.
I'm sure Jesus and his guys got more than a little drunk at The Last Supper
Hey, if Bible-thumpers can make up and believe it, so can I!
Jesus' promoted cannibalism, Hoc Est Corpus Meum, aka, the magical Hocus Pocus.
Observe:
From the book of Genesis:
And [b]God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb
yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his
kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth[b]: and it was so.
001:012 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed
after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in
itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
001:029 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing
seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree,
in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it
shall be for meat.
001:030 [b]And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air,
and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there
is life, I have given every green herb for meat:/b] and it was
so.
002:005 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and
every herb of the field before it grew:
And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of
the garden thou mayest freely eat:
002:017 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt
not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou
shalt surely die.
We're talking page 2.
There's never been a religious leg to stand on. The bible doesn't say you can't smoke weed, and neither did Jesus. There is nothing there but interpretation.
Furthermore, science backs it up:
From 1993:
The first physical evidence that marijuana was used as a medicine in the ancient Mideast was reported Wednesday by Israeli scientists who found residue of the drug with the skeleton of a girl who apparently died in childbirth 1,600 years ago.
The researchers said the marijuana probably was used by a mid-wife trying to speed the birth, as well as ease the pain. Until now, the researchers wrote in a letter to the journal Nature, "physical evidence of cannabis (marijuana) use in the ancient Middle East has not yet been obtained."
The seven researchers -- from Hebrew University, the Israel Antiquities Authority and the National Police Headquarters forensic division -- said references to marijuana as a medicine are seen as far back as 1,600 B.C. in Egyptian, Assyrian, Greek and Roman writings. But physical evidence that the hemp weed, cannabis sativa, was used for that purpose has been missing.
The researchers' examination of an undisturbed family tomb near Jerusalem dating to the fourth century AD indicated the girl, about 14, died because her pelvis was too small to permit normal birth.
2700 year old marijuana stash:
http://ocnorml.org/history/ancient_c...s_history2.dwt
There is even a theory that marijuana was used at one point to prove the existence of a spirit world, that it itself was a messenger of God.
Perhaps all the organized religions would get a bit more spiritual if they just sat back and sparked one up every once in a while.
I'm betting you are are misinterpreting bd's post as badly as you think they are.
Yes
Whott-the- , RIF. Try it while sober.
Undoubtedly.
But no smoking on private property, its important. Health of others...on your private property, you know?
no smoking inside an enclosed public place. Health of others...which apparently you disregard.
If others choose to stay, they disregard it too.
or they give it regard but simply just put up with it
And I'm betting you're wrong as you usually are.
I got what you were saying, I also remember what you said a few weeks ago...and I still felt the need to post that info.
Sure, why not.
you lose again.
because there is no risk free level of exposure to secondhand smoke according to the surgeon general.
I don't disagree with you, Blake.
You have more a choice than you once did. You don't have to be around cigarette smoke all the time if you don't want to. I'm just guessing you're old enough to remember when smoking was permitted on airplanes and buses and public buildings of every description.
For better and for worse, times have changed. Mostly for the better, I'll concede, but the old tolerance of smoking was at least based on a concrete regard for the liberty of others to do things that are unwise, offensive and even risky.
The heedlessness of others that leads the smoker to expose others to the risk as well perhaps does not deserve the consideration, but once upon a time, it was extended to him/her anyway. If there has been a change in consciousness with a beneficial public health result, there has also been a change in manners, again, for better and for worse.
yes
lol saying a con of legalized weed is ass tons of people driving on it
whats so good about marijuana that everyone risks arrest daily?
I think decriminalization is a good place to start. It's worked pretty well in Massachusetts, where it was decriminalized a year ago. Here, it is a misdemeanor with a fine if you are caught with and ounce or less. Still illegal to sell and distribute, which is a little weird since obviously if someone's buying, someone else is selling and distributing, but hopefully that will get figured out next go around.
Marijuana is no more harmful to the body or the mind than alcohol and nicotine, and unlike nicotine, it actually has medicinal use. So I don't think it should carry any heavier regulation or legal charges than alcohol or nicotine.
Pot will never be legalized too much money is made in busting the chumps walking around and driving with small amounts of pot on them. Read the book Arrest Proof Yourself it will open your eyes to just how much money is at stake if pot were legalized.
I can just see the evil fast food companines lining up their armies of lobbyists to combat the legalization of marijuana.
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