The Kobe hate needs to stop!!

[TheNextGen]

Is ChrisRichards, HarlemHEat and MiamiHeat the same guy?!

[samikeyp]

I still want to know what will happen is the Kobe hate doesn't stop.

[MiamiHeat]

Is ChrisRichards, HarlemHEat and MiamiHeat the same guy?!

no

HarlemHeat is a regular poster here for a while now, and so am I

ChrisRichards is a troll account by a Laker fan that popped up like 2 months ago.

[Baseline]

What site are you reading, man? 97% of the stuff posted on this site is by idiot Laker fans who love Bryant.

The current Lakers would be a 60-win team without Bryant, so my argument would be to stop the love. He gets way too much credit as it is. It's ridiculous how overrated this guy is.

Pau Gasol has to go public in order to get more than 10-11 shots a game. All Bryant does is shoot, and he only passes in bailout situations.

So Bryant can score...so what? He's had two of the most dominant low post scorers (O'Neal and Gasol) playing with him for 70% of his career, yet he is still only a career 45% shooter. Am I supposed to stop the world and worship him?

LeBron shoots a better percentage than Bryant yet it could be argued that LeBron's best supporting cast wasn't as good as Bryant's worst supporting cast.

Put Bryant on the Cavaliers and they're an 8-seed.

[MiamiHeat]

What site are you reading, man? 97% of the stuff posted on this site is by idiot Laker fans who love Bryant.

The current Lakers would be a 60-win team without Bryant, so my argument would be to stop the love. He gets way too much credit as it is. It's ridiculous how overrated this guy is.

Pau Gasol has to go public in order to get more than 10-11 shots a game. All Bryant does is shoot, and he only passes in bailout situations.

So Bryant can score...so what? He's had two of the most dominant low post scorers (O'Neal and Gasol) playing with him for 70% of his career, yet he is still only a career 45% shooter. Am I supposed to stop the world and worship him?

LeBron shoots a better percentage than Bryant yet it could be argued that LeBron's best supporting cast wasn't as good as Bryant's worst supporting cast.

Put Bryant on the Cavaliers and they're an 8-seed.

That's a ing FACT.


LeBron James has NEVER had anything near as good as Kobe has had on his team.

LeBron's BEST teammate has been....Mo Williams? Zydrunas Ilgauskas? Ben Wallace? washed up Shaq? LOL

[TheNextGen]

That's a ing FACT.


LeBron James has NEVER had anything near as good as Kobe has had on his team.

LeBron's BEST teammate has been....Mo Williams? Zydrunas Ilgauskas? Ben Wallace? washed up Shaq? LOL

how many all star games have Lebrons teamates been too and how many all stars games has Kobe's teammates been too?

Just curious.

[ElNono]

lol, you still don't understand that it's the comparison lakerfans come up wth that makes people hate kobe. here's the order.

1. kobe does something great, no argument there.
2. kobefan gets a hard on, starts making wild comparisons to jordan.
3. nba fans who have watched jordan and kobe play say it's not close.
4. kobefan counter argues.
5. nba fans forced to list kobe's flaws such as giving up on a team, demanding to be traded, failing in the 2008 finals.
6. kobefan calls foul, refuses to listen, and labels them as haters.

that does not make sense. saying there is no comparison means there is a comparison? wtf? need lakerfan logic goggles for this one.

You actually missed a few points:

- You MUST dog on everybody else on the Lakers team to highlight how important Kobe is. Basically, Gasol and Odom are trash, Artest was not that good after all, Fisher is done, and Bynum is injury prone and overly sentimental. Obviously, if somebody starts comparing OTHER players to them (ie: Dirk, Duncan) then you have to backtrack in all you've said.

- It's completely obligatory to play the "Phil Jackson said" card. Don't forget to remark how Phil's comments are completely unbiased, even though his success is entirely measured on how good his top player performs.

- If you didn't took a on Shaq, even tangentially, while making your point, you're not getting your bandwagoner Lakerfan membership card in the mail next month. Don't forget it's your duty to remind other fans how he had nothing to do with the early 2000 three-peat.

[TheNextGen]

What site are you reading, man? 97% of the stuff posted on this site is by idiot Laker fans who love Bryant.

The current Lakers would be a 60-win team without Bryant, so my argument would be to stop the love. He gets way too much credit as it is. It's ridiculous how overrated this guy is.

Pau Gasol has to go public in order to get more than 10-11 shots a game. All Bryant does is shoot, and he only passes in bailout situations.

So Bryant can score...so what? He's had two of the most dominant low post scorers (O'Neal and Gasol) playing with him for 70% of his career, yet he is still only a career 45% shooter. Am I supposed to stop the world and worship him?

LeBron shoots a better percentage than Bryant yet it could be argued that LeBron's best supporting cast wasn't as good as Bryant's worst supporting cast.

Put Bryant on the Cavaliers and they're an 8-seed.

Before Gasol went to the Lakers, i bet you and your mom didnt even know who Gasol was. You would think maybe, just maybe, having Kobe on the team might have made these two guys better.

[MiamiHeat]

You actually missed a few points:

- You MUST dog on everybody else on the Lakers team to highlight how important Kobe is. Basically, Gasol and Odom are trash, Artest was not that good after all, Fisher is done, and Bynum is injury prone and overly sentimental. Obviously, if somebody starts comparing OTHER players to them (ie: Dirk, Duncan) then you have to backtrack in all you've said.

- It's completely obligatory to play the "Phil Jackson said" card. Don't forget to remark how Phil's comments are completely unbiased, even though his success is entirely measured on how good his top player performs.

- If you didn't took a on Shaq, even tangentially, while making your point, you're not getting your bandwagoner Lakerfan membership card in the mail next month. Don't forget it's your duty to remind other fans how he had nothing to do with the early 2000 three-peat.

laker fans don't realize how bad they are hurting kobe bryant's popularity

[cobbler]

I hate Kobe because I'm weird..I'm against certain things like rape and disrespect towards teammates and people in general..I have strange morals, uh?..

And what of truth, retribution, and forgiveness?

[Allanon]

lol, you still don't understand that it's the comparison lakerfans come up wth that makes people hate kobe. here's the order.

1. kobe does something great, no argument there.
2. kobefan gets a hard on, starts making wild comparisons to jordan.
3. nba fans who have watched jordan and kobe play say it's not close.
4. kobefan counter argues.
5. nba fans forced to list kobe's flaws such as giving up on a team, demanding to be traded, failing in the 2008 finals.
6. kobefan calls foul, refuses to listen, and labels them as haters.

You would be right if the list was true. But you're not.

#2 is missing but #3 happens when Kobe gets positive press.

Show me any post where #2 happens and I'll find you a Kobe hater post that came before it.

Anytime Kobe has a great game:
a) Kobe got bailed out by the refs
b) Kobe is a rapist
c) Kobe will never be Jordan

Then we end up with 20 Kobe/Jordan threads. It's like clock-work.

that does not make sense. saying there is no comparison means there is a comparison? wtf? need lakerfan logic goggles for this one.

WTF are you reading? I'm saying the Kobe haters make the comparison. Look at the threads and open your eyes at how many stats were put up to compare Jordan to Kobe.

Jordan lovers say there is no comparison then proceed to make the comparison to Kobe. By looking up stats and comparing Kobe to Jordan, you're validating a comparison you say doesn't exist

[Allanon]

I still want to know what will happen is the Kobe hate doesn't stop.

20 more Kobe threads.

Kobe hate breeds Kobe love which breeds more Kobe threads.

This is why there are so many Kobe threads. It's a never-ending cycle and apparently people like talking about Kobe

[Chieflion]

Stopping Kobe hate from posters like MiamiHeat is like telling people to stop masturbating. Not gonna happen.

[ChrisRichards]

Stopping Kobe hate from posters like MiamiHeat is like telling people to stop masturbating. Not gonna happen.

gay.



whats with the masturbating reference. are you a virgin?

[024]

You would be right if the list was true. But you're not.

#2 is missing but #3 happens when Kobe gets positive press.

Show me any post where #2 happens and I'll find you a Kobe hater post that came before it.

um, really? what's more likely:
A. kobefan going "yeah kobe's the greatest, look at that shot, he's just as good as jordan"

or

B. nba fan going "kobe just made a buzzer beater, but i must find a way to put him down, he's no jordan"

seriously? why the would a nba fan do that? that's smoking a everyone is against kobe bryant conspiracy theory. it's lakerfan instigating the debate. lakerfan is more likely to bring up the comparison. how many threads have you seen recently that started with "no one brought this up but kobe is no bill russell" just to hate on kobe? the hate starts because nba fans need to list kobe's flaws to stop lakerfan from making these whimsical comparisons.

WTF are you reading? I'm saying the Kobe haters make the comparison. Look at the threads and open your eyes at how many stats were put up to compare Jordan to Kobe.

Jordan lovers say there is no comparison then proceed to make the comparison to Kobe. By looking up stats and comparing Kobe to Jordan, you're validating a comparison you say doesn't exist

sigh.. again i need to bring out the lakerfan logic goggles.

dumb spurs fan: michael finley is just as good as kobe bryant.
lakerfan: uhh no, there is no comparison. look at bryant's stats, winning metality, and number of championships. compared to finley, it's no match.
dumb spurs fan: ha, you just pulled out statistics to compare the two. you just validated the comparison! now that you compared the two, this comparison is forever "debatable."

and again, kobe threads are started by lakerfans and re ed trolls.

[Chieflion]

gay.



whats with the masturbating reference. are you a virgin?

Why are you so sensitive?

[Allanon]

um, really? what's more likely:
A. kobefan going "yeah kobe's the greatest, look at that shot, he's just as good as jordan"

or

B. nba fan going "kobe just made a buzzer beater, but i must find a way to put him down, he's no jordan"

B. Just look at the threads. Jordan is never brought up by Kobe fans until NBA fan finds a way to talk about Kobe. Or there was a great Kobe game. Can't blame Kobe fan for being excited by a win.

seriously? why the would a nba fan do that? that's smoking a everyone is against kobe bryant conspiracy theory. it's lakerfan instigating the debate. lakerfan is more likely to bring up the comparison. how many threads have you seen recently that started with "no one brought this up but kobe is no bill russell" just to hate on kobe? the hate starts because nba fans need to list kobe's flaws to stop lakerfan from making these whimsical comparisons.

Again, show me 1 ing thread with Lakerfan supposedly saying Kobe is greater than Jordan without a Kobe hater bringing it up first.

Just find me one. And I'll find you the hater comment before it. Kobe hate brings on Kobe love.

sigh.. again i need to bring out the lakerfan logic goggles.

dumb spurs fan: michael finley is just as good as kobe bryant.
lakerfan: uhh no, there is no comparison. look at bryant's stats, winning metality, and number of championships. compared to finley, it's no match.
dumb spurs fan: ha, you just pulled out statistics to compare the two. you just validated the comparison! now that you compared the two, this comparison is forever "debatable."

Spurfan doesn't say this. When they do then we can make the debate.

If LeBron versus Kobe is brought up, the comparison is made. If Finley vs Kobe is brought up, no comparison is made, just laughed at.

and again, kobe threads are started by lakerfans and re ed trolls.

Kobe threads are started after Kobe wins a game...like after the Bucks win. Sure.

But outside of these, they are made by Kobe haters or just Kobe informational articles. Have a look for yourself.

[024]

B. Just look at the threads. Jordan is never brought up by Kobe fans until NBA fan finds a way to talk about Kobe. Or there was a great Kobe game. Can't blame Kobe fan for being excited by a win.



Again, show me 1 ing thread with Lakerfan supposedly saying Kobe is greater than Jordan without a Kobe hater bringing it up first.

Just find me one. And I'll find you the hater comment before it. Kobe hate brings on Kobe love.

only if you find a thread with a nba fan saying kobe is no jordan before lakerfan makes the comparison. this will turn into a which came first, the chicken or the egg argument. i'm just trying to let you know why nba fans "hate on" kobe, because they have to list the kobe's flaws to say the kobe to jordan comparisons aren't valid. i dont like garnett but i don't go out and make "garnett is no tim duncan" threads just to put him down. only when people write garnett is better than duncan threads do i start putting garnett down.

Spurfan doesn't say this. When they do then we can make the debate.

If LeBron versus Kobe is brought up, the comparison is made. If Finley vs Kobe is brought up, no comparison is made, just laughed at.

and to compare lebron to kobe, a nba fan will have to list lebron's flaws such as no rings and still young. then cavs fan will scream foul and label nba fans as "lebron haters" the same way lakerfan calls nba fans "kobe haters." in reality, there is no argument who was greater, at least right now. entertaining an argument only brings kobe down a level he same way a kobe vs jordan argument brings jordan down a level. a valid argument would be shaq vs. duncan vs. kobe because a logical nba fan would know that is arguable.

Kobe threads are started after Kobe wins a game...like after the Bucks win. Sure.

But outside of these, they are made by Kobe haters or just Kobe informational articles. Have a look for yourself.

yes, this is where it usually begins. a kobe fanboy getting excited and making the dumb comparisons to jordan. or an article created by the media to instigate debate. certainly does not originate from a random nba fan trying to hate on kobe. it's simple, stop trying to argue kobe is as great as jordan and people won't have to recall all of kobe's flaws. just as lebron would be more enjoyable to watch if cavs fans stopped trying to say he's greater than kobe, or the king, or the chosen one.

anyways, i think i spent my yearly quota arguing with lakerfan.

[Allanon]

only if you find a thread with a nba fan saying kobe is no jordan before lakerfan makes the comparison.

Deal. Hang on.

Here you go.

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=141546

D228 obviously isn't a Kobe fan. Have a look at post #2.

Then look at post #3.

It's like clock-work

[024]

Deal. Hang on.

it will have to predate any kobe > jordan threads. i believe the comparison started surfacing in 2006. like i said, it's a which came first, the chicken or the egg argument because how do you know that post didn't stem from a kobe > jordan lakerfan post? i'm not going to turn this into a who can find the first comparison between kobe and jordan search, matching ones started by a nba fan with ones started by lakerfan. i'm on winter break but i'm not THAT bored to search the internet of articles/threads years ago. you can reread my previous post on why nba fan "hates on" kobe.

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=142492
lakerfan bringing up the subject. it's an article but it's lakerfan/media instigating the debate.

click on the author:
"I am Marcel and I am a 17 year old who lives in San Diego. I am a die hard Laker and Dodger fan."

yeah, seriously, don't want to get into this who can find more threads. my previous post pretty much explains it all.

[HarlemHeat37]

It's not fair what 024 and Elnono are doing to this thread, they're just toying with them..

Allanon's posts have really lacked quality since the Lakers won the le..he lost his humility as a fan really quickly..from using the typical inaccurate arguments to defend Kobe against superior players, to defending Culbear being a child molester..

[Allanon]

It's not fair what 024 and Elnono are doing to this thread, they're just toying with them..

Allanon's posts have really lacked quality since the Lakers won the le..he lost his humility as a fan really quickly..from using the typical inaccurate arguments to defend Kobe against superior players, to defending Culbear being a child molester..

Nah, not since the Lakers won the le.

My posts have been lacking the same quality all along since signing up after the Gasol trade

I don't bring up Kobe/Jordan first; check my posts.

But I do enjoy riding the Kobe haters once they start hatin' though...gotta keep 'em in check