The problem is Floyd is willing to do it and Manny isn't.. Manny wants to blow the fight so he doesn't get pricked with a needle..
And it's 30 days not 48 hrs
i understand he is willing to do it...doesnt mean he has to do it cuz mayweather says so. The only reason the HGH talk happened is cuz his dad says so. Thats it. Manny passed every other test regulated by the state commision. There is no reason to change that beacuse one speculates.
http://sports.yahoo.com/box/news?slu...yhoo&type=lgns
license in Nevada is good for one year. In Pacquiao’s case, he received his 2009 license shortly before he fought Ricky Hatton in May. He submitted his blood to the commission between April 5 and April 20, said Keith Kizer, the commission’s executive director.
Kizer said all fighters who fight in Nevada are subject to random urine tests as well as any other medical tests, such as an MRI or a CAT scan, that the commission deems necessary. Arum said Pacquiao is willing to submit to testing by an outside agency but won’t give his blood. Roach said it’s an issue because Mayweather’s side has been insisting Pacquiao give blood as close as 48 hours within the fight
Rafael is saying it is 30 days before the fight, if Floyd wants 48 hrs before, i say still do it, give Floyd no excuses at all, to not fight. If Manny is 100% clean, what is the problem??
That sounds fair. While we're at it, might as well make olympic style drug test mandatory for everyone in boxing. So it makes sure everyone is at a level playing field. If they are clean, they shoudn't mind.
Heck..lets put DUI check points in almost every corner. Hey, if we arn't drunk, we shouldnt mind. Are you down to for a search of your belongings everytime you leave the grocery store. I mean, if you didnt steal anythng you shouldnt mind too. Lets just assume everyone is bad even though we didnt do anything to warrant it.
Just another excuse for the great Floyd Mayweather to duck this fight.
They should, i love MMA and sadly i'm sure tons of guys are cheating in that sport too and getting away with it..
Uh huh..So it makes sure everyone is at a level playing field.
Unfortunately in this era of cheating across the board and beating tests, we do basically need to assume someone is cheating their ass off when they refuse to submit to stringent testing. Manny says "It is a mental thing" nobody with half a working brain buys that. Yeah "i am gonna flush a 40 or 50 mil payday because someone wants to take my blood 4 weeks from the fight and i have never done it before, so i can't do it now". There is a reason why the Union will strike before agreeing to HGH testing in MLB, and it's clear there is a reason Manny and his people are balking at the blood test 30 days out.. You see my point??Lets just assume everyone is bad even though we didnt do anything to warrant it.
The ball is in Manny's court to not give him an excuse.Just another excuse for the great Floyd Mayweather to duck this fight.
There are issues on both ends. Mayweather is demanding a little too much. It's never been used for any other mega fight and it's not like Pacman has been caught before. And then I see the aspect of well, if Manny has nothing to hide, just do the test. Both sides have points and I just hope they can find a way to compromise.
Roach
We don't need Mayweather. He needs us. We have other fights out there. We'll go fight [junior middleweight champ] Yuri Foreman and win a le in eight weight classes."
Oh yeah there is one people want to see...
Agreed and i hate these promoters like Arum now saying it's off we have other options, no you don't.. This is the fight everyone wants BOB!!
I disagree here. Manny is doing what the commision is asking. Manny is also okay with the blood test as long as its not right before the fight (from what i read). They need to find a middle road. The ball is not on Manny court cuz Mayweather can always retract the request.
Mayweather can alter the request which is likely what will have to happen to get this back on track..
why cant a blood test after the fight be a viable solution?
You need it before, why get in there and then find out someone cheated later?? I'd want it before
Freddy Roach is an idiot. I used to like the guy but damn he is too y and arrogant.
I have been a Manny fan for years though so I am still pulling for him. I was kind of hoping for a Floyd Mayweather v. Bobby Pacquiao fight though. NOW that would be entertainment.
I can understand if there was some precedent that Pac has been cheating, but there isnt. I think thats what infuriates me. To my knowledge, this would be the first mega fight that would take a test like this.
I don't know, it sounds like this is off..
I posted Dan Rafael's take on it, if you haven't seen it give it a listen, he breaks it all down..
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=4766620
I wish I could find a pic of Manny when he wore the Tim Duncan Jersey before his fight with Barrera here in SA.
Thanks...
Here's another take: http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-1...ao-on-March-13
I said it then and I'm going to say it again. All these nonsense is nothing but your typical Floyd Mayweather Jr. smoke.
What did I tell you? Mayweather never intended to fight Pacquiao on March 13. In case you haven't noticed, Mayweather does most of his work with his mouth and working the media rather than really just lacing his gloves up against the best compe ion available.
Forget that he avoided Antonio Margarito, Shane Mosley, Miguel Cotto and Paul Williams right?! Mayweather never runs out of excuses, mind games, propaganda and trash talk to cover up the truth.
And the truth is? FLOYD NEVER WANTED TO FIGHT MANNY IN MARCH. Just sign the contract already Floyd!
All these media posturing, press releases and trash talk is just cheapening, not only himself, but the sport of boxing as well. First it was the venue, then it was the weight, and now what? Steroids? Again? Has the sport really sunk so low to allow the biggest fight of the decade to be controlled by Floyd Mayweather Sr.? Luckily it isn't and Bob Arum is right to suggest to simply dump these clowns.
Arum responded to Team Mayweather's press release saying, "The press release is absurd. Mayweather proves that he's a coward and he's looking for a way out of the fight. The Nevada commission has been doing drug testing for the last 40 years. To appease Mayweather, we agreed they could do urine analysis anytime they wanted. But Manny doesn't want them to draw his blood when he's in training because it weakens him," Arum said in an article published by USAToday.
I respect Floyd's skill as a boxer, but as a warrior and a fighter, the man is a ducker. He does his fighting in the media and with his mouth and just as Pacquiao's trainer Freddie Roach said in an interview with Brad Cooney and 8countnews, "He's just looking for a way out of the fight. He is scared, and he's just afraid that he's going to get his ass kicked. We don't work for Floyd Mayweather. We fight for the state commission, since when does the fighter make up the rules?"
As soon as I heard this, I went into my "cultural apologist" mode. I figured given Manny's cultural background, w/ supers ions and such, the whole blood taking thing in any form makes him a little uneasy which would be amplified if it could happen at any time during his routine.
the money when self-sabotage is at stake, I'd rather be labeled as mentally weak by the public that's feeding my pockets than knowingly with my mindset and set myself up to lose in the face of the people that believe in me. The media reports are already damaging Manny, so the strategy is working.
The wonderful thing about Manny is that money doesn't define his persona, he's a fighter and a successful person in his community. Sure, lots of greed involved with his handlers (as with a lot of sports)...but he doesn't NEED this fight while his political career is also on the verge of peaking. Mayweather NEEDS this fight...and he's the one dictating the terms? Nah, that makes no sense for the secret beggar to be the public chooser.
It's naive as to think this has nothing to do with some kind of strategy from Mayweather's camp. No way would Manny cause such shame to his legacy by cheating...but he can do nothing if the media s with his legacy over the manufactured drama of the drug test. I hope he doesn't give in.
Also, I'm not pinoy or a huge Manny fan...I just have a good bull detector.
I am on the fence with this one. Manny is just dominant and Floyd is scared of losing his record but at the same time why not just take the damn test? Are there dangers involved? If there are then I can understand but if it's just Roach wanting complete control like always then he needs to do it.
i think its more of when the test is going to be taken. Thats the issue per Dan Rafeal.
Making major concessions is not new in mega fights. Did you know that in order for Hagler to get Ray to fight him in 1987, he had to agree to wearing huge gloves, and fighting in a way bigger ring than he wanted too. Ray's plan was to avoid his power and run like and sadly, it worked.. I hate the posturing from both, sides they just tell their side and ignore the middle ground. Manny's people say Floyd is scared and Floyd says Manny has something to hide, geez....
From doing research, the olympic commitee drug testers can take a sample anytime prior to the fight, including a few hours before. It looks like Roach wants the test to be only before the camp (30 days) or after the fight because it will change up the camp. Looks like Mawyeather is smart and is trying to get into pacmans head
And if Manny agrees Floyd is dead in water if he still finds an excuse. That's why i kind of feel this is in Manny's court. Don't give Floyd an excuse to not fight you, take the test..
Right, but will it in any way affect him negatively if he does it? Even if it was 48 hours before the fight?
I mean hey I am a Manny fan and I know he would beat Money May but c'mon. I plan on going to wherever this fight takes place.
Personally I think it's just Freddie Roach wanting to control every little aspect. The guy is just as bad as Mayweather.
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