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    The OL' Perfessor wildbill2u's Avatar
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    In every category of statistics except FG percentage, Drew Gooden is beating McDyess this year, even though he's coming off the bench for the Mavericks after an injury.

    I was one who thought he was too much of a ball-hog shooter when he was here, but maybe that was due to the pressure of coming in late in the year when his contract year was up. He seems to have blended in well with the Mavs this year and has become something of a fan favorite because of his hustle.

    Oh, and did I mention he's more athletic, maybe because he's SEVEN years younger than McD.

    What you y'all think?

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    no

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    Well..I don't know about Gooden, but I've been saying from day 1 that mcdice wasn't a good fit for the spurs.

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    I rather the Spurs play 4 against 5 than to play the 4 against 6 that Gooden will give you if he was with the Spurs.

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    I rather the Spurs play 4 against 5 than to play the 4 against 6 that Gooden will give you if he was with the Spurs.
    Explain please.

    Just because a lot of people here were dissing Gooden a year ago doesn't mean he is really worthless. He was very good on the low block and the dude was an offensive powerhouse. Sure he was lazy on defense and he doesn't rotate properly but he makes up for it in guts in taking those shots.

    Dice, right now doesn't really show anything. Hope he really is Horry-like when it comes to pacing himself or the team will really be ed in the playoffs.

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    "The ball don't lie." dbestpro's Avatar
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    As of right now there is no doubt that Gooden is a better player than Dice. You can even say Theo is a more active player than Dice. , Ian might even give you more effort.

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    Explain please.

    Just because a lot of people here were dissing Gooden a year ago doesn't mean he is really worthless. He was very good on the low block and the dude was an offensive powerhouse. Sure he was lazy on defense and he doesn't rotate properly but he makes up for it in guts in taking those shots.

    Dice, right now doesn't really show anything. Hope he really is Horry-like when it comes to pacing himself or the team will really be ed in the playoffs.
    See http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=142668

    People in Dallas really love him. Dude has no defense and is a black hole when you give him the ball, it is good when the ball is falling in but when it is not you are down a player and the other team is up one.

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    Funny you bring this up. I've been thinking about this recently.

    When the Spurs first signed Dice, I thought he'd immediately be a clear upgrade and better all-around fit for the Spurs. His elbow jumper has been damn near automatic - at least until he came to the Spurs. And he's been an adequate rebounder. Dude averaged 9 & 9 last season. I know Dice is a notorioius slow starter and he's certainly been slow getting out of the gate this year, but he's still considerably older than Gooden.

    Gooden, on the other hand, is a bit of a black hole; doesn't have the BBIQ of Dice. However, he's been more active, has better post moves and has been more of an on-court factor, thus far for the Mavs.

    All that said, it appears the jury is still out on the comparison between the two. Yet, it's something to keep an eye on. I had no problem with the signing then, but if things hold true to form, this swapout will have been a mistake. It will also expose Pop's loyalty of AARP veterans over younger, possibly more talented players.

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    I'd rather have McDyess

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    It will also expose Pop's loyalty of AARP veterans over younger, possibly more talented players.
    Pop has become a lazy coach. He pefers vets cause he thinks there is less to do. So, he does less as a coach even if the vets are in need of some heavy duty coaching as a team.

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    If you can't slam with the best then jam with the rest sabar's Avatar
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    This team doesn't need a player that needs shots to produce. We already have too many scorers with no idea how to get them all shots.

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    gooden is not a team player

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    gooden is not a team player
    ...and Tony Parker continues to demonstrate the same.

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    More like Theo or Gooden?

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    Seriously if i had to pick, i'd take what D. Gooden gave us last year over what A. McDyess is giving us now. D. Gooden was actually pretty decent for us last year; but A. McDyess hasn't really done anything so far in his time in SA.

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    McDyess is going to get better and better as the season wears on. I'd much rather have a team player like him than the 40% shooting black hole known as Drew Gooden.

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    it dont matter who we have, we still suck

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    This is re ed. McDyess replaced KT. Blair replaced Gooden.

    In both cases, the Spurs are better off.

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    exactly having gooden or mcdyess doesnt change much

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    McDyess will be there guys. Look at his career record. He comes on strong in February-playoffs. He's still got it, and his D will be there in the end.

    I wouldn't trust Gooden on D. There's a reason teams pass Gooden up.

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    Gooden is playing much better defense in Dallas than he did here. McDy is showing his age on defense, a tad slow on the rotations.

    And Gooden even has more assists that McDy which surprises me.

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    Agree that at this point in time Gooden looks better than McDyess. But come crunch time, Dyess better show why we brought him here.

    And, if he's still sucking in a few weeks then the Spurs screwed up in going after him. I hope that is not the case.

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    Gooden will be on a playoff team this year. McDyess won't be. End of this story.

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    good sucks but mydess is just done, not his fault.

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    Gooden will be on a playoff team this year. McDyess won't be. End of this story.
    So, you don't think the Spurs will make the playoffs?

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