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    Butler is way better than Josh and isn't hurt nearly as much.
    Oh I wouldn't say that he's way better. I wouldn't say he's any better. Caron Butler can take terrible shots with the best of em. He's not as good a 3pt shooter as Josh, probably on par rebounding, and defensively give me Josh.

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    Hawks could use a little more height in their frontcourt. Horford is more of a PF than a C.

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    Caron Butler is only good in a Gasol trade situation. If you have to give up anything of value, you better really hate the asshole you're shipping out.

    I can understand trading Josh for Ellis or G-Force, guys that will slash and probably mesh well with Kidd. But another jump shooter (and a pretty mediocre one at that) isn't what the team needs.

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    102-87 son.

    And Monta isnt a selfish chucker? The guy has talent but he complained about drafting and having Curry start next to him because it wasnt good for HIS game. Not the team but him. He cant be too good of a team player with that at ude.

    Hes got a point there.

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    Oh I wouldn't say that he's way better. I wouldn't say he's any better. Caron Butler can take terrible shots with the best of em. He's not as good a 3pt shooter as Josh, probably on par rebounding, and defensively give me Josh.
    Give me Butler for more than 50 games a year of Josh, 25 of which are "Good Josh" and 25 of which are "Stand around on D and Chuck up Jumpers on O" Josh. But I agree, I don't want Butler's contract, and I think a guy like Ellis is a much better trade target.

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    And Monta isnt a selfish chucker?
    I'd rather my selfish chuckers throw up layups and not 15 footers.

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    Let it go Fin, the Spurs garnering more respect than the Mavs bothers you too much bro. Spurs have earned that respect, they deserve to get the benfit of the doubt that theyll turn it around especially considering the fact that they have the talent.

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    And Monta isnt a selfish chucker? The guy has talent but he complained about drafting and having Curry start next to him because it wasnt good for HIS game. Not the team but him. He cant be too good of a team player with that at ude.
    He fills a gaping hole of a need for us...somebody who can consistently get to the rim and is capable of being that consistent scorer from the two-guard spot. Part of our problem is over-reliance on jumpers and nobody who can consistently score and make teams pay for doubling Dirk.

    I would give most guys a pass for what is going on in Oakland right now. I think he'd be elated to go from a situation like that to a team like Dallas that is contending and has a major role for him to play.

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    Yer ended, Fk. And ya know it.

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    When Monta is on the bench and Terry and Barea are choking away the game what happens then?

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    Let it go Fin, the Spurs garnering more respect than the Mavs bothers you too much bro.
    Yeah, at least this year it does. I think they'll pull it together to win 50-53 games and make the playoffs, but I don't see them as any more of a dark horse contender than Dallas.

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    Hes got a point there.
    It's tough to judge the at udes of players at Golden State. It's such a toxic environment and Nelson is such a mind- er. Get guys like Monta and Anthony Randolph out of there and they might bring a completely different at ude.

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    When Monta is on the bench and Terry and Barea are choking away the game what happens then?
    true. The biggest team need for Dallas is somebody to go Nancy Kerrigan on JJ Barea's knee.

    I guess I could be the Jeff Gillooly that the Mavs desperately need. Let me buy a baton and grow a sleazy mustache.

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    true. The biggest team need for Dallas is somebody to go Nancy Kerrigan on JJ Barea's knee.

    I guess I could be the Jeff Gillooly that the Mavs desperately need. Let me buy a baton and grow a sleazy mustache.
    Now that Josh is available for duty, why not start him and keep him to the same minutes limit? I bet part of his bad at ude is seeing the Puerto Rican smurf in the starting lineup ahead of him.

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    I wrote the best post in the thread and that's all you could come up with?

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    Let me buy a baton and grow a sleazy mustache.
    Then you'd have bumper for your high speed sucking habit.

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    Yer ended, Fk. And ya know it.
    Im not giving up on this team yet.

    But if we do end up being ended than so be it Cully, guess I'll just have to settle for watching the Celtics rape that purple n gold ass

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    Now that Josh is available for duty, why not start him and keep him to the same minutes limit? I bet part of his bad at ude is seeing the Puerto Rican smurf in the starting lineup ahead of him.
    True. But Barea starting games hasn't been the problem, it's Barea ending games.

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    I wrote the best post in the thread and that's all you could come up with?
    Why do the Spurs deserve that kind of respect? Because they won les 3, 5 and 7 years ago with that core of Duncan, Parker and Manu? If they didn't have that history, you wouldn't give them that benefit of the doubt. I think Manu is done, and a big part of it is that balls to the wall style takes its physical toll. They need 2005-07 Manu to win another le and I don't see it.

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    True. But Barea starting games hasn't been the problem, it's Barea ending games.
    That infuriates me to no end. He's a 15 mpg niche player, not a major part of a team's core.

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    Ah, and the Blazers would be the 6th contender if they were healthy. Their biggest need would be another top perimeter defender besides Batum.

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    True. But Barea starting games hasn't been the problem, it's Barea ending games.
    And its Jason Terry being in games

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    Regarding Ellis, perhaps the GS situation has alot to do with his at ude and comments...but still talking down on the rook Curry like that and saying he didnt want him starting because it affected HIS game? That type of at ude isnt neccesarily what I think of when I think of champions. He seems like a me-first player, although to be fair I always thought of Crawford in the same way (to a lesser extent though) and the winning in Atlanta has seemed to cure that.

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    the final 5 in mavs games needs to be either:

    against smallball
    Kidd
    Terry
    Howard
    Marion
    Dirk

    or traditional
    Kidd
    Howard (or Terry)
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    Dirk
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    JJ Barea has no ing business whatsoever being in games during crunchtime.

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