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  1. #76
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    Monta basically makes Jason Terry useless. We don't need two 6'3 tweener guards.

  2. #77
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    the final 5 in mavs games needs to be either:

    against smallball
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    Dirk

    or traditional
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    Howard (or Terry)
    Marion
    Dirk
    Damp

    JJ Barea has no ing business whatsoever being in games during crunchtime.
    Post of the year. Someone please print this out and slip it under Coach Carlisle's door.

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    Why do the Spurs deserve that kind of respect? Because they won les 3, 5 and 7 years ago with that core of Duncan, Parker and Manu? If they didn't have that history, you wouldn't give them that benefit of the doubt.
    Well, if they didn't have that history, they wouldn't be as good as they actually are, don't you think?

    I think Manu is done, and a big part of it is that balls to the wall style takes its physical toll. They need 2005-07 Manu to win another le and I don't see it.
    I don't think Ginobili is done. He's going to the line at his normal rate, his offensive rebounding rate is above his career level, his 3pt shooting efficiency is also good. Those are the best indicators of athleticism. If he stays healthy he'll get the rest of his game (the passing, the midrange shot, finishing at the rim) back.

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    Well, if they didn't have that history, they wouldn't be as good as they actually are, don't you think?
    That makes no sense to me whatsoever. The 1998 Dallas Cowboys were not nearly as good as the 1993 Dallas Cowboys.

  5. #80
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    Spurs won the le in 07' and reached the WCF in 08'...people are putting a fork in them prematurely in my opinion. Putting way too much into last year's playoff outing, I mean what did you guys expect out them. Where they actually supposed to contend without their second best player?

    I understand that there has been some decline involved, but at the same time Spurs have spent more than ever before and re-tooled to combat that. They currently have the deepest and best bench in the NBA, I dont think Manu has to be gold-medal Manu or that Tim needs to be MVP-Tim. They just need to put it together and play the way theyre capable of playing.
    Last edited by FkLA; 12-26-2009 at 12:33 AM.

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    That makes no sense to me whatsoever. The 1998 Dallas Cowboys were not nearly as good as the 1993 Dallas Cowboys.
    I have no idea who the those cowboys are. What I meant is that Duncan+Parker+Ginobili are good players, Popovich is a good coach. If they had never won a le, they wouldn't be nearly as good because you need to be good to win a NBA le. I understand the point about athletic decline, I just don't agree with it (I mean, I do agree with it, but every contender is filled with elite players that are in athletic decline [experience wins in the playoffs] - if there was a team marching out there with Bibby/Ray Allen/Artest/Rasheed Wallace/Shaq they wouldn't be winning anything and they'd have been a dynasty in the early 2000s. I don't think the Spurs decline is serious/big enough to rule them out as contenders).

  7. #82
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    the final 5 in mavs games needs to be either:

    against smallball
    Kidd
    Terry
    Howard
    Marion
    Dirk

    or traditional
    Kidd
    Howard (or Terry)
    Marion
    Dirk
    Damp

    JJ Barea has no ing business whatsoever being in games during crunchtime.
    For Rick, a NBA win is like sex. JJB is always involved in the end.

  8. #83
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    I understand the point about athletic decline, I just don't agree with it (I mean, I do agree with it, but every contender is filled with elite players that are in athletic decline [experience wins in the playoffs] - if there was a team marching out there with Bibby/Ray Allen/Artest/Rasheed Wallace/Shaq they wouldn't be winning anything and they'd have been a dynasty in the early 2000s. I don't think the Spurs decline is serious/big enough to rule them out as contenders).
    I think it is. We'll find out in June.

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    To stay healthy and for Aldridge to develop more post game.

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    Post of the year. Someone please print this out and slip it under Coach Carlisle's door.
    A man can only get so many blowjobs

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    How about showing portland some love though...wins against the mavs, spurs, and nuggets not many teams have done that much less consecutively. I think if they can use Miller/Bayless to bring in someone to fill in the gap left by Oden and Przbylla they can still be a darkhorse.

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    Mavs should go after Bayless, I think he's a better option than Monta...send them Erica Dampier and have them send some other fillers to make the deal work.

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    Erick Dampier won't be going to the Blazers unless we get Aldridge or Roy coming back. Seriously, his contract is expected to fetch an All Star in return. We're not giving them our starting C and his instantly vanishing $12 million option for Jerryd Bayless.

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    Give that kid two years max and he'll be a big-time player in this league, even now he's already capable of contributing he just needs minutes. He's dripping with talent, its so apparent and obvious that he's a star in the making. If I was a Mavs fan, Id rather give up Erica for him than for Monta.

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    the spurs are healthy and added pieces. there really isnt an excuse . duncan is playing well. something is up with them

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    Give that kid two years max and he'll be a big-time player in this league, even now he's already capable of contributing he just needs minutes. He's dripping with talent, its so apparent and obvious that he's a star in the making. If I was a Mavs fan, Id rather give up Erica for him than for Monta.
    I don't disagree with that, but the Mavs could probably pry him from the Blazers for less than Damp's contract. And since Bayless is on his rookie deal, I don't want $12 million worth of Blazers junk. They're probably not looking to dump him now, they probably need him to play minutes with all the injuries.

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    Give that kid two years max and he'll be a big-time player in this league, even now he's already capable of contributing he just needs minutes. He's dripping with talent, its so apparent and obvious that he's a star in the making. If I was a Mavs fan, Id rather give up Erica for him than for Monta.
    Why would the Blazers want to give up a young "obvious star in the making" though? I Don't understand.


    Im sure there is a way we can take Montas contract off thier hands and take Randolph too (who they are supposedly shopping)

    They would might intersted in Josh (former Nellie player), Gooden (insta-expiring contract), and maybe JJB (run and gun back up pg for Nellie system.)

    We go the pieces, I'm sure our smart and savvy gm can pull it off.

    Oh wait........dammit

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    the spurs are healthy and added pieces. there really isnt an excuse . duncan is playing well. something is up with them
    Yeah, they suck donkey .

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    Manu/Parker/Duncan are still good players but the Spurs no longer have the qualities their championship teams had. Their defense has dramatically declined, their margin of victory isn't as impressive, they have a subpar record against teams over .500... they're 2-8 in their last 10 playoff games.

    They really should not be considered contenders until they start playing like one.

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    OTOH the Mavs shouldn't be discounted as contenders because of the ref screwjob in '06 and the flameouts in 07-09... but I dont consider them a contender because while they've played well, they haven't played "that well"... this team currently looks like one of those decent 55-58 win teams that loses in the 2nd round/WCF...

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    Yer O & Forever, Ghazi. STFU.

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    Yer O & Forever, Ghazi. STFU.
    0 & 54, close enough, zip.

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    My team needs to wake the up

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    Another sharp shooter and a big that will rotate, and a PG that will fight through screens. Basically a new team.

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    A savior from Toronto.

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