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    TMAC in the summer of 2010. MLE guaranteed for 1 year, 2 more years with mutual options...

    Duncan/Blair/Mcdyess/Splitter/?Bonner?/Haislip
    RJ/Gino (resigned at $20/3 years, slightly greater than the MLE)/Mcgrady/Hairston
    TP/Hill

    add 1 a 3ed PG
    add 2 more wing players

    At least one of these will be a draft pick...

    Looks decent to me. Especially if we can find another serious defender at the wing spot.

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    1. A trade is not possible. I don't want to give up RJ at this stage.

    2. If he is brought out, I don't think we have enough money to sign him. Neither will we be the first option for him. He can have the most minutes in Denver I think.

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    Look, there's no impetus for the Rockets to make a deal with the Spurs. The Spurs have nothing that turns their respectable and admirable team into a contender this year or that is promising enough, at the right position, to help them in the future; not at the level that would entice them, at least.

    Again, if they had any hope of signing a difference maker with cap space, I think they would have held off on trading for RJ...
    Not necessarily.

    The Spurs took advantage of a financial climate that allowed them to acquire a player that wouldn't normally be made available to them; clearing the cap space for '10 gave them the opportunity to strike a year early and prevented them from potentially wasting one of Tim's last, highly-productive years.

    If the writing's on the wall come some time after the All-Star break and this team's chemistry and fit isn't quite right, something along the OP's original line isn't out of the question; swallowing ones pride and acknowledging a mistake quickly could prevent you from wasting what just might be Tim's final year of high productivity.

    I honestly can't see the Spurs dealing RJ and I don't see a feasible T-Mac (or T-Mac-like) scenario coming to fruition this season. The only way I could see RJ being moved, would be during the offseason after a team is unable to lure one of the marquee free-agents; RJ would be a consolation to a team that got hung out to dry and his contract wouldn't be the albatross it's been viewed, considering he'd only have one-year left.

    There's going to come a time, a time in the not-so-distant-future, that the Spurs are going to have to take a long, hard look into the mirror and ask themselves: Does this team honestly have what it takes to win a championship this year? And, if not, is one more year of seasoning the only thing preventing this team from attaining our goals next year?

    The dalliance with luxury tax was an acknowledgment of their stars waning years. They knew their championship window was coming to a close and decided to not waste what could be their last years of contender status.

    They went all-in with RJ in the hopes he could prevent a wasted year. But if they were given the opportunity to recover their chips and a chance to play their hand in the form of the free-agent class of '10?

    Given the departure in philosophy Tim's final years have brought, I can't see why they wouldn't jump at the opportunity to get back in the game.

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    1. A trade is not possible. I don't want to give up RJ at this stage.
    Don't worry, nobody will want him at that price tag either.

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    The Rockets know this player better than anyone and they've already decided that his skills are in decline. Therefore, let's all give up this idea of T-Mac to the Spurs.

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    You guys throw in Spittler and we might talk.

    DD

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    I don't think the Rockets are going to trade T-Mac. That huge expiring contract of his is worth a lot to the Rockets.

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    We basically give up on this season if we do that...I think the reason behind the RJ deal was to maximize these years, not throw them away...
    This is all there is to say on the subject.

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    is pop willing to give up finley and bonner?

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    This is plain stupid, why would the Rockets trade a guy like Mcgrady to a division rival.

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    This is plain stupid, why would the Rockets trade a guy like Mcgrady to a division rival.
    Agreed. It's not like they are as stupid as we were.

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    if spurs trade in him,they may not pass 1st round... TMAC is cursed

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    This is plain stupid, why would the Rockets trade a guy like Mcgrady to a division rival.

    The Alimight Dollar rules over all.. Never forget that.... If SPURS had enough money to throw at KOBE he play for the SPURS, same goes for LBJ, and anyother player you can think of...

    $$$$$$$ influences all, and 99.9% of the time is the deciding factor.

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    that just sounds stupid

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    the spurs is a basketball organization, not a retirement facility
    Yes. Stop the geriatric non sense. Mcchina glass makes ginobilli look brick strong. No thanks

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    The Rockets know this player better than anyone and they've already decided that his skills are in decline. Therefore, let's all give up this idea of T-Mac to the Spurs.
    +1. Funny thing is they want young all star level players for him. Lol

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    +1. Funny thing is they want young all star level players for him. Lol
    ...which automatically eliminates the Spurs.

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    ...which automatically eliminates the Spurs.
    TP and RJ for T-Mac and brooks

    Houston would have the young all star (even if TP is not at all-star level this year)
    The spurs would have a cheap talented PG and a lot of cap space to rebuild this summer

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    I think I'm running out of facepalm pictures.

    Wait, here's a new one.


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    Wait a minute, are people actually arguing that acquiring T-Mac would give the Spurs a better shot at a le this year?

    I just figured people viewed it as a way of biting the bullet on what could be a failed experiment and giving them the opportunity to throw their hat back into the free-agent ring of '10; T-Mac's true value being his expiring contract.

    Like I said before, it's not happening, (for a mul ude of reasons) but I just assumed the rationale had nothing to do with T-Mac's ability on the court; I should know better than to assume..

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    This is plain stupid, why would the Rockets trade a guy like Mcgrady to a division rival.
    Why would the spurs trade a guy like Scola to a division rival?

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    Why would the spurs trade a guy like Scola to a division rival?
    So you're saying Houston owes us one?

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    I just read that the Rockets and Mcgrady are parting ways, and theyre even willing to take on non expiring contracts for a right trade...

    what about sending them RJ, Bonner and Finley for Tmac, who says no?

    i dont think Tmac helps at all, and im not even sure we play him, but at least he expires and we can get back to our 2010 plan with lots of money to sign a big FA...

    the rockets get RJ who can help them now and next year...

    right now, we know so far that RJ isnt a good fit on this team, and he probably fits best in houston's more up tempo style of play (at least this year)...

    we finish this unsecsefull RJ experiment, replace him in the lineup with Mason, give Hairston more PT... i think we have the same chances of winning this year with or without RJ, besides getting rid of that contract...

    i kno this isnt happening, but want to know what u guys think?
    You start with a supremely stupid suggestion then follow it up with a pearl of wisdom.

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    This is plain stupid, why would the Rockets trade a guy like Mcgrady to a division rival.
    Why would the spurs trade a guy like Scola to a division rival?

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    So you're saying Houston owes us one?
    Yea why not?

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