HoopsCzar say's,... Heeeee's Baaaaack and at 14-10 to help !!!

[HoopsCzar]

Originally Posted by FromWayDowntown View Post

Doesn't it say something that the Spurs had Ely here -- and that he was a part of a le team after they traded for him -- but they have no interest in him?

I understand that there is some need to prove oneself to be a basketball genius by promoting an "unearthed gem" who will somehow become a contributor after having been forgotten on the scrap heap. But in pimping Ely -- and particularly in suggesting that he'd fit with the Spurs -- you're talking to a fanbase that has been there and done that and didn't much care for what it saw. More importantly, there comes a point in time where the whole world realizes that a guy just isn't a player at the NBA level, and certainly not a giy who can contribute to a team with le aspirations. I'd submit to you that no matter his skillset, that's Melvin Ely, circa 2010. It was Eddie Robinson a few years before that. Maybe Tyrone Nesby or Lamond Murray in the years that preceded those two. The truth is, however, that time shows those players to be tragically limited and easily replaceable -- and that truth becomes readily apparent to anyone who watches players without a "See how brilliant I am" agenda.

The temptation to promote a player as a pet project in the hope that he pans out so that you can say "See I told you so" (with the only downside being some remote chance that others will recall your insistence upon that player's worth when it has been disproven) is a cliche on internet message boards. Such unbridled support for Melvin Ely is just another variation on that theme. So thanks for ensuring that the cliche remains alive and well on SpursTalk.

+ 1 All that glitters isn't gold

What a pair,..

Here's to shooting the bonus,..ROTFFLMAO !!!

[HoopsCzar]

Doesn't it say something that the Spurs had Ely here -- and that he was a part of a le team after they traded for him -- but they have no interest in him?

I understand that there is some need to prove oneself to be a basketball genius by promoting an "unearthed gem" who will somehow become a contributor after having been forgotten on the scrap heap. But in pimping Ely -- and particularly in suggesting that he'd fit with the Spurs -- you're talking to a fanbase that has been there and done that and didn't much care for what it saw. More importantly, there comes a point in time where the whole world realizes that a guy just isn't a player at the NBA level, and certainly not a giy who can contribute to a team with le aspirations. I'd submit to you that no matter his skillset, that's Melvin Ely, circa 2010. It was Eddie Robinson a few years before that. Maybe Tyrone Nesby or Lamond Murray in the years that preceded those two. The truth is, however, that time shows those players to be tragically limited and easily replaceable -- and that truth becomes readily apparent to anyone who watches players without a "See how brilliant I am" agenda.

The temptation to promote a player as a pet project in the hope that he pans out so that you can say "See I told you so" (with the only downside being some remote chance that others will recall your insistence upon that player's worth when it has been disproven) is a cliche on internet message boards. Such unbridled support for Melvin Ely is just another variation on that theme. So thanks for ensuring that the cliche remains alive and well on SpursTalk.

Ugh huh and here's the other side of that,..

Doesn't it say something that it's so easily distinguished that in your boob stew. Is a mere gaggle of goonish graffiti for which you display your ability and interest to hurl a whole lot of past tense nothing,..and with well over fifteen thousand entries you've clearly not taught nor learned a thing.

See in your historic quest to mix your mumbo jumbo with memorability by Mongo minutia. The dish is this version of San Antonio Spurs aren't as floor loaded as they were winning that 2007 NBA championship,..what does that have to do with enhancing their 2009-10 championship chances?,.. NOTHING !!!

Which is the one you've so blindly cited where with a considerably younger core. They proved they didn't need to utilize Ely in those playoffs after acquiring him in route to winning it all back in 2007,..NEWSFLASH,.. key factor being that was THEN this is NOW there Sparky.

See the here and now is these Spurs are like 5th in highest salary cost in the league. Having navigated in a manner of retaining their aging core. With an attempt to support them by acquiring Richard Jefferson, Antonio McDyess, Theo Ratliff and that miscalculation has them struggling to manage to be a hair above a middle of the pack .500 team,..try ignoring or dismissing that.

See you brand of adding a dash of all that bla, bla in that blind homer scab blab. Is only missing " once upon a time " to preface your rattling off complete insignificance complete with irrelevant names,..as a direct result of your ignorance your envy has consumed you.

In the midst of various takes presented in collectively talking fixes in a pro -vs- con debate. Clearly in contrast you're trying to veil your personal chagrin for never having gotten any look right and therefore harbor disdain for accepting that nobody cares what you think,..and what you're presenting why in the world should they.

So a laughable " Hate the world " presentation in a manifesto from such a madcap. That it's about as hilariously twisted as if anybody were to try following those " this does not compute " names you pulled from some insignificant archive,..and the forum fun among fans continues and once again comes at your expense you fuming odd Fraud.

So now you just try recognizing this past friendship accord,..Super sized and POSTERIZED !!!

[HoopsCzar]

......what's ROTFFLMAO?...............

It's an abbreviation for,..

Would you believe Rolling On The Flippin Floor Laughing My Adnoids Out,..

[FromWayDowntown]

Ugh huh and here's the other side of that,..

Doesn't it say something that it's so easily distinguished that in your boob stew. Is a mere gaggle of goonish graffiti for which you display your ability and interest to hurl a whole lot of past tense nothing,..and with well over fifteen thousand entries you've clearly not taught nor learned a thing.

See in your historic quest to mix your mumbo jumbo with memorability by Mongo minutia. The dish is this version of San Antonio Spurs aren't as floor loaded as they were winning that 2007 NBA championship,..what does that have to do with enhancing their 2009-10 championship chances?,.. NOTHING !!!

Which is the one you've so blindly cited where with a considerably younger core. They proved they didn't need to utilize Ely in those playoffs after acquiring him in route to winning it all back in 2007,..NEWSFLASH,.. key factor being that was THEN this is NOW there Sparky.

See the here and now is these Spurs are like 5th in highest salary cost in the league. Having navigated in a manner of retaining their aging core. With an attempt to support them by acquiring Richard Jefferson, Antonio McDyess, Theo Ratliff and that miscalculation has them struggling to manage to be a hair above a middle of the pack .500 team,..try ignoring or dismissing that.

See you brand of adding a dash of all that bla, bla in that blind homer scab blab. Is only missing " once upon a time " to preface your rattling off complete insignificance complete with irrelevant names,..as a direct result of your ignorance your envy has consumed you.

In the midst of various takes presented in collectively talking fixes in a pro -vs- con debate. Clearly in contrast you're trying to veil your personal chagrin for never having gotten any look right and therefore harbor disdain for accepting that nobody cares what you think,..and what you're presenting why in the world should they.

So a laughable " Hate the world " presentation in a manifesto from such a madcap. That it's about as hilariously twisted as if anybody were to try following those " this does not compute " names you pulled from some insignificant archive,..and the forum fun among fans continues and once again comes at your expense you fuming odd Fraud.

Yeah, you know, I never said this Spurs team was flawless. I've never argued that the Spurs, as presently cons uted, could hold a candle to the 2007 champs. If you read that into my posts, I'd submit that you're reaching for something to question rather than actually dealing with what I've said.

What I HAVE said is that the Spurs flaws are not going to be solved by Melvin Ely. That was true with what Melvin Ely was 3 years ago, and it remains true now. There are cures (perhaps) to the Spurs problems that lie somewhere between Lebron James and Melvin Ely on the talent spectrum. Your fascination with Melvin Ely -- , your unbending advocacy for Melvin Ely as some sort of panacea for the Spurs -- is both insupportable and extremely curious.

[HoopsCzar]

"But as I see it I feel the costly missed look was Popovich and Buford not keeping Drew Gooden as the major mistake in what happened in all the moves they made."



Absolutely! What the Spurs lack is an offensive black hole who plays no defense. And I'm sure that problem can be readily resolved by signing two guys who can't make any other team in this league (or fill no roles with those teams) and have basically been adjudged on their merits to be incapable of playing at this level.

There is wisdom in the decisions of many. I'm certain -- absolutely certain -- that NBA GMs spend more time evaluating players than you or I do and that they are eminently more qualified to evaluate players than either of us. When they ALL agree that a guy isn't ready to play in the league, it's a pretty hard sell to insist that such a guy should not only be playing, but playing a role on a championship contender.

If the Spurs aren't contenders, neither Melvin Ely or Morris Almond is going to change that.

I disagree,..

Because you're wrong again,..see to go on a tangent of hailing baseless generalizations on such an assumptive " catch all " binge. Is the mark of one embracing their inferior lack of grasp and attempting to group another with them,..ugh, ugh I stand alone, I'm not inferior by virtue of anothers mere le and I know what I'm stating with absolute accuracy there pal.

You know it's fine to acknowledge and even respect that a person holds a certain position. But it's not wise nor to presume they're experts or even proficient in their capacity just by virtue of their perch,..coaches just like GM's in the NBA are selected by a buddy system and expertise has very little to absolutely nothing to do with it and that's why some teams are perennial losers.

Just like not all church goers are true pure spirits nor do they practice the faith they proclaim. Which is just like every person that owns a hammer, can identify a nail or can hold a wrench certainly doesn't qualify them as engineers nor mechanics either,..although if you blindly accept their posture or someone hires them in the capacity they serve peril at your allowance.

Here's some eye opening facts,..

See the net is a mass media informative venue that's serving spellbinding opposition to the proverbial status quo. Where no longer does pay to say or profit to print news papers and venue publications.

That operated by planting what they want you to think by scripting what you hear via radio, TV or read in your local paper. Aren't finding the same success as control sources of information anymore,..they're being upset and exposed as mere 2nd and 3rd tier know nothing nobodys in spite of their syndicated reach and iden y.

Because there's a number of " unknowns " making a absolute mockery of whom once perched as alleged experts. That previously went unchallenged to the degree that now many such prior experts and their employers are are losing or have lost the battle of being any genuine informative source,..and forums are where fans are flocking to engage in pursuit of unblemished perspectives that exceed the grasp of the proverbial mail clerk or groundskeeper doubling as some alleged source of insight.

Which is merely a change where once unknown / untapped and or unheard of talent. Is surfacing and their highly skilled abilities and accuracy pertaining to specific matters. Are being discovered as superior to that of the controlled and limited information environment they used to have to settle for,..so take note.

Here's to expertise,..

See not only do GM's and coaches all too frequently get their teams took off by way of a combination of bad drafting, missing looks on players and horrible trades. But not only is it common it's happened every single year of the leagues existence and you'd think they'd know better, But time and time again they prove they don't and previously had no opposition before,.. so, so much for expanding that blind allegiance of allege expert qualifications,.. huh.

Within and beyond that,..

You want to know how NBA les Phil Jackson has seized. To become the reigning coach with the most NBA championships without star studded rosters,..not a single one.

How about recognizing how many teams passed on a throng of talent such as Dennis Rodman, Carlos Boozer, Gilbert Arenas, Rashard Lewis, Manu Ginobili, Mark Price, Micheal Redd, Stephen Jackson and Monta Ellis, Mehmet Okur, P.J. Brown and others. Stuck on citing and clinging to a bunch of blind billy baseless BS assumptions,..every single GM in the league at the various times of those drafts.

You wanna know how many team GM's specifically drafting forwards. Displayed their genius by passing over Scottie Pippen and cited him as a flash pan player they'd be better off without,..three of them.

You might want to know how many NBA championships Greg Popovich and R.C. Buford have won without Tim Duncan?,..zero, zilch, goose egg, none, nada, kaput.

See that's just the tip of the iceberg as to the flawed logic you've been conditioned to blindly embrace as sharp eyed experts,..amidst all those facts to the contrary.

They're just very non exact people placed in positions that prove it. Where if you want to know how many coaches and GM's teams need help right now. That those appointed GM's and coaches either aren't wise or skilled enough to accurately assess. Or distinguish that some of that talent is available,..pay attention, do some homework and take far better and more copious notes.

[Duncan21kid]

re
im just waiting for another long reply from you that doesnt make a single bit of sense.

take care

[FromWayDowntown]

I disagree,..

So you're smarter than all 30 NBA GM's?

[exstatic]

This has a Ghostwriter stench about it.

Pimping ballah-style player with marginal talent: check

Nonsense rant with little b-ball knowledge, or any knowledge: check

Arrogant bashing of posters who's jocks he can't hold: check

[HoopsCzar]

So you're smarter than all 30 NBA GM's?

Here's the deal,..

It's not a point of my attesting to be smarter than 30 GM's that are operating in the NBA. As a non bias game purist I'm presenting irrefutable facts for you to review and digest which allows you and any and everybody else to distinguish who's who and what's what.

Although I'll certainly not cower from not so much telling you. But with unblemished candor and non doctored details exposing you to the fact that I know what I know and you can feel free to do a comparison,..and being single tracked I even share such insight sharing assessment perspectives on an array of differing teams.

Which in that manner there's no way in the world by any stretch am nor should I hail any of the coaches or GM's. As having any superior game grasp, running knowledge, intrinsic skill or broad understanding of basketball matter than I do,..doesn't get anymore straight up and fair than that.

See be it player evaluation, team structuring, situational assessment of maximizing value by approach. Or manner of scripting floor plan of in manners of attack and counter adjustments on varying and specific matchups to win. I'll stand behind my record of detailed accuracy against any coach or GM that I've either agreed with or disagreed with,..thus there's no bias of favoritism or unfair challenging because I don't prey upon any abuse which would be opting to picking any of the leagues weakest teams apart either.

[FromWayDowntown]

Here's the deal,..

It's not a point of my attesting to be smarter than 30 GM's that are operating in the NBA. As a non bias game purist I'm presenting irrefutable facts for you to review and digest which allows you and any and everybody else to distinguish who's who and what's what.

Although I'll certainly not cower from not so much telling you. But with unblemished candor and non doctored details exposing you to the fact that I know what I know and you can feel free to do a comparison,..and being single tracked I even share such insight sharing assessment perspectives on an array of differing teams.

Which in that manner there's no way in the world by any stretch am nor should I hail any of the coaches or GM's. As having any superior game grasp, running knowledge, intrinsic skill or broad understanding of basketball matter than I do,..doesn't get anymore straight up and fair than that.

See be it player evaluation, team structuring, situational assessment of maximizing value by approach. Or manner of scripting floor plan of in manners of attack and counter adjustments on varying and specific matchups to win. I'll stand behind my record of detailed accuracy against any coach or GM that I've either agreed with or disagreed with,..thus there's no bias of favoritism or unfair challenging because I don't prey upon any abuse which would be opting to picking any of the leagues weakest teams apart either.

Do you write these things out and then send them though Babelfish seven or eight times, translating to five different languages and back, before posting?

Oh, and notwithstanding the "I flipped through the thesaurus while drafting this" quality of your prose, I will take it that you DO think you've been wronged by not having been offered a GM position in the association -- after all, you certainly seem (as far as I can tell) to claim to be their equal ("I'll stand behind my record of detailed accuracy against any coach or GM that I've either agreed with or disagreed with.").

And I'm not sure how your opinion of Melvin Ely is "irrefutable fact" to anyone other than you, particularly given the lack of real world support your opinion seems to have garnered.

[Duncan21kid]

hey re , wheres my 500 word reply ? and you can post a really lame picture at the bottom of your post too

[HoopsCzar]

This has a Ghostwriter stench about it.

Pimping ballah-style player with marginal talent: check

Nonsense rant with little b-ball knowledge, or any knowledge: check

Arrogant bashing of posters who's jocks he can't hold: check

Hold that thought there Sherlock { I ain't fraid of no Ghost },..LMAO !!!

See granted I've befittingly adopted a net iden y that doesn't reveal my personal, social or professional life name. But so have you and a host of 99.9% of net based contributors,..and I don't associate myself with the term of pimp either.

More festive It so Facto to scowl your curiosity brow,..

Just like the Spurs is a admirable basketball team. In equal recognition Kori and crew have established a great site for Spurs fans and sports faithful in general here,..so in a selfless manner of spreading the wealth I help them generate numbers.

So having established a coexistence accord I drop in at select cites that I respect. Just to show my respect and recognition for what they've accomplished and spread the fun among us. In a manner of engaging fans in styles and fashions of their individualistic choosing,..talk ball we'll check it, go off the wall and I'll revel in making a laugh a minute example out of you.

Thus where I've never ever picked on no one. But I'll admit I have skewered, lambasted, pickled, plugged and posterized a parade line of those like you. Whom so inaccurately thought and or assumed they wanted to try two stepping on the off the ball ISO either on or with me,..it makes for a party.

For which it's widely known trademark for me to have left you / them dancing a mean rendition. Of a cross between variation of the sophisticated Foxtrot, mixed with some Can, can steps, with a tinge of the Twist, a dash of Cabbage patch, the Jerk, some fancy foot work Camel walk, swingin a smoothness of the Hustle oul stirring , magical moves of the Moon Walk, the Runnin Man with a tempo based on Go-Go, and doing the Boogaloo. Making you do the Monkey,..trust me it's a distinct gyration of invigoration dance that and will last throughout the ages.

Where being such a hypnotic and ultra melodic, big brain artist of the absolute smartest. Kickin smooth moves as a certified back it up in your face all over the place baddass. I'm a ballin scholar quick strike party starter and man do I enjoy getting down with those from miles around and boy oh boy do I ever love the parades,..ROTFFLMAO !!!

Now if that's to in anyway be likened to, equated as or trumped up as arrogance, just because I don't take crap from nobody. By all means you just keep on prancin and I'll keep you dancin there pal,..don't be confused, I'm old school and what I kick is hip script and I don't stammer and hit like a Hammer.

Owwwww,.. Git up !!!

[mabrignani]

this guy laughs super hardcore after every sentence, so much that he has to bold it every single time to get the point across that he really thinks he is funny.

[HoopsCzar]

this guy laughs super hardcore after every sentence, so much that he has to bold it every single time to get the point across that he really thinks he is funny.

Now see magpie,..

You just read what you've just been compelled to have scribbled and know the inference of how super clueless serious you want to be taken.

Then you dare try straight faced telling me or anybody else with good sense. That you don't know how hard you make me laugh,..LMAO !!!

[HoopsCzar]

re
im just waiting for another long reply from you that doesnt make a single bit of sense.

take care

[Duncan21kid]

HoopsCzar say's,... Heeeee's Baaaaack and at 14-10 to seek serious medical help !!!

[HoopsCzar]

There is a reason Melvin Ely is a free agent right now, his Bball IQ terrible, and that is being nice, and his "D" is just as bad. The Spurs had him once and got rid of him for a reason, why would they want him back?

Almond is a scorer, which something the Spurs don't really need, they need a defender, I don't know much about him except from stats, but the stats indicate his "D" is not very good.

Nope you're missing it Cheryl,..

See the game is larger than and Ely having gotten a ring with the Spurs before. Isn't like revisiting an argument with an old boyfriend or girlfriend. So the question of whether they're fawning over wanting Ely or not.

Actually teeters on signifying the Spurs decision makers as those having constructed this top 5 in cost and .500 ball return. Would have to be a coax of financial fools and fumbling frauds because there's no question via skills set they need him or somebody like him in regards to skills set,..watch how many points, rebounds and how often the Spurs get beat in transition.

Again having forced Drew Gooden to sour on staying from his brief experience with Popovich and Rasheed Wallace absolutely refused to even consider it. The skills set was left open and in such dire need and Buford certainly didn't get by signing McDyess and retaining Ratliff either,..watch how this team struggles both offensively and defensively off the post as a result.

It doesn't have to be Ely but he's the best of what's left and plenty good enough to rotate in and fill that void that be it inferior basketball understanding to grasp their costly shortcoming. Or intolerable acceptance of others having any interest to deal with Popovich or haggle with Buford.

So bottom line fact remains if not Ely as the best of whats left and nobody else of the skills set is brought in. Tim Duncan or not this teams chances of truly competing as any serious contender is reduced to non existent,..zip, zilch, nope, ugh, ugh, no and it ain't gonna happen.

Your also contending the Spurs don't need Morris Almonds range firing scoring as a big athletic SG. Is to allege they've already secured one better on this team,..if so who do you think it is?

See it's widely trumpeted that defense is alleged to win championships. But yet game after game be it exhibition, regular season, playoffs or championship series. It's conclusively proven that it's a teams ability to score more points than their opponents is actually the formula that wins these games,..it's fact and no I'm not one resigned to parrot an overused win by D alone cliche.

The Spurs aren't winning with all the money they've allotted and now it's value time. Which you're absolutely not going to find any long ball defensive gem like a basketball version of a Lester Hayes, Ronnie Lott, Gary Fencik, Mel Blount, Dion Sanders, Mel Renfro, Cliff Harris Charlie Waters,..Nor are you going to find any interior stonewall enforcers like some NBA version of a Ray Lewis, Brian Urlacher, James Harrison or Butkus either.

If there's not a change of mindset and addition of skills sets here. This expensive team will do good to secure an 8th seed and lay prey to getting bounced out of those playoffs in the 1st round of exposure,..like clockwork,

Right now the open book script to beating these Spurs is front Duncan on the post to make him work hard for his looks. Force the range shooting deficient Parker to shoot from the perimeter and let Manu check in and wear himself out trying to score and create enough to close the gap and dare anybody else on the team to beat you,..and the better balanced teams will unquestionably sweep them.

[Stringer_Bell]

The OP answers questions in great detail, so I have a few questions...

Are people even aloud to create threads without at least 1K posts?
Are you Melvin Ely's agent? Or Melvin Ely himself?
How do you manage to type so much and say nothing?

And, does the peanut gallery enjoy giving you the same attention you give them?

omg this thread hurts my head. good job!

[HoopsCzar]

The OP answers questions in great detail, so I have a few questions...

Are people even aloud to create threads without at least 1K posts?
Are you Melvin Ely's agent? Or Melvin Ely himself?
How do you manage to type so much and say nothing?

And, does the peanut gallery enjoy giving you the same attention you give them?

omg this thread hurts my head. good job!

Oh Jeez there Tinker Bell,..

Could you made it anymore evident that you're just another no content, know nothing, cluelessly crying and jock stalking nobody,..ROTFL !!!

You know if your toiling with such an extreme inferiority complex wasn't so glaring. I'd possibly even almost mistaken you for a good willed chiding baller.

But the look on you is so clear that the only way anybody can couple you with anything to do with making sense with a ball. Is placing you on the other end of the training where you can excel at trying to fetch one,..

Here's to looking out for you,..from the OP to the dopey.

[TheSullyMonster]

I'm not sure if you're aware, so I'd like to inform you.

Commas don't need to be immediately followed by a period. Or two. Or any quan y, actually.

[HoopsCzar]

I'm not sure if you're aware, so I'd like to inform you.

Commas don't need to be immediately followed by a period. Or two. Or any quan y, actually.

[Stringer_Bell]

Could you made it anymore evident that you're just another no content, know nothing, cluelessly crying and jock stalking nobody,..ROTFL !!!

Jock stalking? I just thought there was an unspoken rule about starting useless threads in this section when you have less than 1K posts. Ofc, this is no longer a useless thread due to its entertainment value.

anywayz, ur funny, r u sum1's troll account?

[Zero_Twilight]

HoopsCzar, your posts are like a form of witchcraft.

I tried to read it, but I suddenly become dizzy and my train of thought is lost in a purple hazy dyslexic trance. I'm still recovering. You're like a villain from a Batman comic. The Riddler has nothing on you.

It may seem like I'm joining the mob for the purpose of insulting you but I have a soft spot for the underdog and believe me that insulting you is not my intention.

Keep on, keep, keepin on.

[L.I.T]

Jock stalking? I just thought there was an unspoken rule about starting useless threads in this section when you have less than 1K posts. Ofc, this is no longer a useless thread due to its entertainment value.

anywayz, ur funny, r u sum1's troll account?

Never been that rule; spoken, unspoken, implied or otherwise.

Dammit. This thread has me typing in forced rhyme.

*random bold*

[holcs50]

Holy . This guy has some crazy posts. Whoever said he's high is waaaay off. It's more like Dr. Seuss on mushrooms, opiates or maybe even crack. Reading a few of them kind of makes my head hurt because you have to read each sentence like 3 times, they are so grammatically flawed. On the other hand I was smiling and slightly ROFLLMFAO through most of his posts. I've never seen a person take a one sentence reply and write 5 paragraphs on it, add in the constant bolding and laughing at his own expense. Gotta say I like this troll, but there's no way in I'm reading every post.