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    Cinnamon Girl mrsmaalox's Avatar
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    Feel free to come and slend a day with me, ROB. You'll see I am definitely not lazy. 4-5 hours on cover letters, resumes, thank you notes, general follow up, 2-3 hours searching for jobs, 1-2 hours on interviews....that's a 10 hour day right there.
    Ash I've never job hunted, but looking at your time breakdown, do you think you may have a time management problem? The resume is done right? Just need to keep plenty of copies. The cover letters and thank you notes could be personalized form letters to save time. Unless you are searching for jobs worldwide, are there really 2-3 hours worth of new jobs popping up overnight? I don't think you are doing anything wrong per se, but it's obvious that freeing up some time for pounding the pavement would be helpful. Maybe just get organised enough that the letters and phone work could be limited to one or two days per week.

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    #FreeGiuseppe BlackSwordsMan's Avatar
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    lol

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    Runrunrunawaybaby ashbeeigh's Avatar
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    Ash I've never job hunted, but looking at your time breakdown, do you think you may have a time management problem? The resume is done right? Just need to keep plenty of copies. The cover letters and thank you notes could be personalized form letters to save time. Unless you are searching for jobs worldwide, are there really 2-3 hours worth of new jobs popping up overnight? I don't think you are doing anything wrong per se, but it's obvious that freeing up some time for pounding the pavement would be helpful. Maybe just get organised enough that the letters and phone work could be limited to one or two days per week.
    That was ballpark. It's probably on the lower end of things. But, it is a "full time job" as most people preach. I'm sure Katy can attest to this, sending out carbon copy cover letters and resumes isn't a good thing. I try my very best to make them as individualized as possible. The resume is usually the same, but for the most part the interviews i have gotten, everyone says they really liked my cover letter. A well thought out, thoughtful put together cover letter could take me about 30-45 minutes. Making sure I hit everything that the job is about, the company is about, etc.

    I have to be good to myself, too. Taking a break, socializing, celebrating the things I do have (after all I am a spoiled twit) it is the flippin' holidays....companies don't post jobs on Christmas Day even though it is a Friday.

    And, obviously, some people don't get that. Beating myself up (as most of the posters have done today) is just making things worse and it just isn't going to help in the long run. Yes, the job hunt is stressful, but there needs to be a balance.

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    I've tried to stay out of this thread as much as possible. specially since this is a problem ashb is going through and it frankly sucks.

    But.. why on earth would you post this in the club forum and be surprised people here are gonna get your goat.

    You didn't think stating that you're on a social network all day to find jobs would bring any ridicule...

    I mean it's not like your hear to partly crave attention?

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    Veteran RGMCSE's Avatar
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    Several posters including myself have given you helpful advice. But you haven't acknowledged those.


    Rob

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    Linkedin.com is a website you might want to try.

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    Cinnamon Girl mrsmaalox's Avatar
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    That was ballpark. It's probably on the lower end of things. But, it is a "full time job" as most people preach. I'm sure Katy can attest to this, sending out carbon copy cover letters and resumes isn't a good thing. I try my very best to make them as individualized as possible. The resume is usually the same, but for the most part the interviews i have gotten, everyone says they really liked my cover letter. A well thought out, thoughtful put together cover letter could take me about 30-45 minutes. Making sure I hit everything that the job is about, the company is about, etc.

    I have to be good to myself, too. Taking a break, socializing, celebrating the things I do have (after all I am a spoiled twit) it is the flippin' holidays....companies don't post jobs on Christmas Day even though it is a Friday.

    And, obviously, some people don't get that. Beating myself up (as most of the posters have done today) is just making things worse and it just isn't going to help in the long run. Yes, the job hunt is stressful, but there needs to be a balance.
    Like I said, I've never job hunted, so I didn't come in here to pile on you about something I don't know about. And you certainly don't owe anyone here an explanation of your job hunting methods, but when you volunteer it I'm going to offer what I can

    I also don't think you should send out carbon copies of anything (do people still do that?) but a good form letter, customized by a free lance writer could save time. I don't understand spending a huge effort on a personal, customized, time absorbing letter when the people who have most admired it have not offered a job! But that's just me.

    I agree you need to achieve balance, as it has been apparent the last few weeks that your stress level is off the charts. I just think that maybe a more organized, concise search would free up some time for yourself. And in reference to Katy, it's her job!! Use all the available resources for the best return

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    Mr. John Wayne CosmicCowboy's Avatar
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    It's too bad the POTW Tabulator got laid off and is paying the bills flipping burger patties at Whataburger.

    He would be ALL OVER this thread.

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    Mr. John Wayne CosmicCowboy's Avatar
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    I've served in Spurstalk with Kori Ellis. Kori Ellis is a friend of mine. I know Kori Ellis, and YOU missy are no Kori Ellis!
    And you should be ashamed that your parents spent all that money for your college education and you didn't get this reference...

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    It's too bad the POTW Tabulator got laid off and is paying the bills flipping burger patties at Whataburger.

    He would be ALL OVER this thread.
    Well, that's the only reason I post.

    I got the reference. I chose to ignore it, making sure this thread didn't go in to a me versus Kori battle.

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    Mr. John Wayne CosmicCowboy's Avatar
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    Well, that's the only reason I post.

    I got the reference. I chose to ignore it, making sure this thread didn't go in to a me versus Kori battle.
    OK

    explain the reference.

    BTW, the original quote had nothing to do with Kori.

  12. #87
    Mr. John Wayne CosmicCowboy's Avatar
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    LMAO

    Suddenly even Google isn't your friend?

    Try inserting the name John in the word string and see if that works.

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    Runrunrunawaybaby ashbeeigh's Avatar
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    OK

    explain the reference.

    BTW, the original quote had nothing to do with Kori.
    Hang on.

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    Cinnamon Girl mrsmaalox's Avatar
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    It was Rather's story on Bush's National Guard service. No need to call me out on politics. Politics is why I'm in this position anyway.


    Sorry, I'm too fast for you!!

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    Runrunrunawaybaby ashbeeigh's Avatar
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    I wanted to change the le to on ashbeeigh. But Kori won't let us cuss in the thread le.

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    LMAO koriwhat's Avatar
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    there's no sympathy for someone trying to find a job solely on craigslist just like there's no sympathy for a middle aged man just trying to look at porn and instead gets caught with little naked boys and girls on his desktop.

    get out there and in' walk the streets, work the streets or whatever but by all means get out there and work! sitting behind a computer playing on the net(afterall lets not lie anymore... that's what you're doing) is not productive. obviously you haven't figured it out yet so let me tell you how it is; you have yet to find a job online so why not get out there and go business to business looking for that "dream" job instead of just dreaming you got it and deserve it.

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    Mr. John Wayne CosmicCowboy's Avatar
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    I clearly missed the edit but that was a...interesting.......guess.

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    Runrunrunawaybaby ashbeeigh's Avatar
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    there's no sympathy

    You wouldn't have sympathy for a dying baby in the middle lane of the 35/281/10 interchange downtown in the middle of rush hour. You're a heartless bas . Just my opinion though.

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    OK

    another hint

    top 5 zinger line ever in a political debate.

    clock is ticking.

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    Hmmm, B does kind of look like the offspring of Dole and Rather.

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    *ding*ding*ding* we have a winner. 88 debate and Lloyd Bensen slaps Dan Quayle....But why the PM Ash?

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    LMAO koriwhat's Avatar
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    You wouldn't have sympathy for a dying baby in the middle lane of the 35/281/10 interchange downtown in the middle of rush hour. You're a heartless bas . Just my opinion though.
    you don't know me one bit girl... you think you do but you don't.

    don't get all flustered because the truth hurts sometimes. it sucks to be unemployed or employed(in my situation) but it sucks even worse when you lie to yourself about the way you go about looking for work. craigslist isn't the solution! if it was it would've landed you a position many weeks/months ago. do what you're doing now if you intend to keep it up but remember that looking for a job is a job and getting out there face to face with employers is a better way to landing that job or lead.

    i'm not trying to be rude ash, i swear i'm not. i'm basically in the same boat and in the next week or so i am going to go down the list in the phone book, collect business names, get my resume together and go to each of those places i want to work at and hand them my resume face to face. if that don't work i'll just settle for whatever is better than where i'm at now because i am so tired of working for jack and getting no extra hours or benefits.

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    you don't know me one bit girl... you think you do but you don't.

    don't get all flustered because the truth hurts sometimes. it sucks to be unemployed or employed(in my situation) but it sucks even worse when you lie to yourself about the way you go about looking for work. craigslist isn't the solution! if it was it would've landed you a position many weeks/months ago. do what you're doing now if you intend to keep it up but remember that looking for a job is a job and getting out there face to face with employers is a better way to landing that job or lead.
    You don't know me either. My last two jobs I got off of Craigslist, just FYI.

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    LMAO koriwhat's Avatar
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    You don't know me either. My last two jobs I got off of Craigslist, just FYI.
    i'm not saying you can't find work off craigslist but solely depending on it is hurting you more than you think. do what you're doing and also add in the occasional trips to some real world businesses and hand them your resume personally.

  25. #100
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    Ashbeeigh, quite a few posters here are giving you sound advice. Others are just being assholes. You need to ask yourself this, "Am I really doing all I can possibly do to find employment?". If the answer is yes, clearly you need to reassess your efforts.

    As others have mentioned, I can't imagine being unemployed for any extended length of time. Even when I was still living with my parents. Spoiled aside, I worked. I just turned 26 in November and the longest I've been unemployed in the last 8 years was a week, maybe longer. That was over three years ago. I know I've been fortunate and I understand that it's tough right now landing that job you so desperately want but with the amount of posts/threads/whatever you write about you being jobless, one would think you actually wanted to work. Remember...one step back, two steps forward.

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