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    Nope you're missing it Cheryl,..

    See the game is larger than and Ely having gotten a ring with the Spurs before. Isn't like revisiting an argument with an old boyfriend or girlfriend. So the question of whether they're fawning over wanting Ely or not.
    Actually....you're missing it....badly.
    Ely only played 6 games for the Spurs in 2007, none in the playoffs, he only received a ring because he happened to be on the roster during the year, it doesn't mean he did anything of consequence to contribute to winning a le, there is a reason the Spurs got rid of him. Plus, he has played 2 more years and has not improved at all.
    Your also contending the Spurs don't need Morris Almonds range firing scoring as a big athletic SG. Is to allege they've already secured one better on this team,..if so who do you think it is?
    See it's widely trumpeted that defense is alleged to win championships. But yet game after game be it exhibition, regular season, playoffs or championship series. It's conclusively proven that it's a teams ability to score more points than their opponents is actually the formula that wins these games,..it's fact and no I'm not one resigned to parrot an overused win by D alone cliche.
    You have to be able to make stops on the "D" to win in the playoffs, just ask the Phoenix Suns, all those high flying Don Nelson teams, etc. At team wins....in any sport.....by being able to make defensive stops, very, very rarely does a team win win offense alone.
    Right now the open book script to beating these Spurs is front Duncan on the post to make him work hard for his looks. Force the range shooting deficient Parker to shoot from the perimeter and let Manu check in and wear himself out trying to score and create enough to close the gap and dare anybody else on the team to beat you,..and the better balanced teams will unquestionably sweep them.
    Parker CAN hit those mid range shots, you obviously have not been watching him the last few years.
    The Spurs' chemistry is starting to gel, so you keep thinking everything you are saying because you haven't the foggiest idea what you are talking about.

    You take up nearly half a forum page and say nothing, thank god you are not writing your random thoughts on paper, the rain forests would be obliterated by them.
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    HoopsCzar, your posts are like a form of witchcraft.

    I tried to read it, but I suddenly become dizzy and my train of thought is lost in a purple hazy dyslexic trance. I'm still recovering. You're like a villain from a Batman comic. The Riddler has nothing on you.

    It may seem like I'm joining the mob for the purpose of insulting you but I have a soft spot for the underdog and believe me that insulting you is not my intention.

    Keep on, keep, keepin on.
    Zip it there Zero,..

    See your delusional condition steeped in dyslexia and dweeb-dumb. Has been ball scholar diagnosed as theater induced psychosis. With like sending a signal of your being a witch with an vexed interest in becoming a warlock,..LMAO !!!

    Thus I detect you've induced yourself into a panic condition where mentally it appears your love / hate / fear simplex of Batman. Is based in such a superhero falling the way of such villains as the Riddler and the Joker.

    Yet has even progressed to infusing your childhood hero of " Underdog " somehow also being infused to morph into a snibbly whiplash character,..such a strange mix.

    To conclude you're not " joining " the mob of fellow madcaps. You're genuinely comparably of their afflictions and disabilities and you've been accurately assessed by the doctor now,..ROTFFLMAO !!!

    By all means " Batfan " know you're a capstone in clinical science,..and here's a clip for your conditional trip.


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    Actually....you're missing it....badly.
    Ely only played 6 games for the Spurs in 2007, none in the playoffs, he only received a ring because he happened to be on the roster during the year, it doesn't mean he did anything of consequence to contribute to winning a le, there is a reason the Spurs got rid of him. Plus, he has played 2 more years and has not improved at all.


    You have to be able to make stops on the "D" to win in the playoffs, just ask the Phoenix Suns, all those high flying Don Nelson teams, etc. At team wins....in any sport.....by being able to make defensive stops, very, very rarely does a team win win offense alone.

    Parker CAN hit those mid range shots, you obviously have not been watching him the last few years.
    The Spurs' chemistry is starting to gel, so you keep thinking everything you are saying because you haven't the foggiest idea what you are talking about.

    You take up nearly half a forum page and say nothing, thank god you are not writing your random thoughts on paper, the rain forests would be obliterated by them.

    No Clang { I mean Cheryl },..LMAO !!!

    See first off you're going to have to come out of that euphoric 2007 time warp. Before you'll ever be able to enter into any focus, understanding and be of a far more cognitive acceptance. That even though Melvin Ely was acquired by the Spurs in 2007 before the playoffs started. Even though they didn't physically need him they ensured no other contender would land him as to face him on their roster as an opponent,..and apparently it worked as planned.

    However, it's now the 2009-10 season in the NBA and the Spurs aren't 2007 structured to be champions again this season right now as it stands,..repeat that.

    Then to to the realization that these Spurs clearly need a skills set like Ely's or someone like it right now. Which brings us to having to accept that they don't have it and no semblance nor inference of conjuring any who, what, when nor where of that version of the Spurs achieved in 2007 has anything to do with this,..NOTHING !!!

    See although aged Tim Duncan is still on par with his prior championship numbers. But he's not only playing more minutes to do it. But it's an 82 game season and he's not getting offside support on the blocks and the team is getting beat via that reality. Which is a aspect of how they're being attacked, exploited and hovering just above .500 basketball,..it means lesser talents are beating the team by that team assembly flaw there Clank.

    Thus what I'm proposing is getting the man some operable assistance down on the low blocks. Which will leave Duncan fresher and more of a constant threat. Which will also loosen up the defense being played on Parker and Hill as PG's that's tasked with orchestrating offense off the pass or the shot,..limit their options, you yourself limit their production and force their one and only true versatile biginto a opponent to pick their times when to make him a non factor.

    Thus in your apparently awaiting for that assistance to come from a grab bag. Of undersized and now aged Antonio McDyess or bigger but less faceted Theo Ratliff and non physical or athletic Matt Bonner,..you're unrealistic.

    Where in your expecting that athletic and versatile big body support to arise and or appear from a younger but far less skilled tandem of Marcus Haislip or Ian Mahinmi,..you're insane.

    As per Morris Almond,..

    Here you're going to have to understand that we're not talking about neither Tony Parker nor his PG midrange shooting. See where Tony Parker is at the PG that isn't a player nor position of concern nor being discussed as a problem,..we're talking the range shooting SG position.

    So unless you're waiting for Keith Bogans to be feared as a floor spreading threat. Or a Roger Mason that stands 6'5" but plays at a size far smaller or Malik Hairston to develop that range shooting niche you're leaving Ginobili out on an Island,..Findley's a great guy but he's a durability question mark who'll be a 37 year old swingman by the time the playoffs start and he's already in street clothes.

    Thus even shifting back to your gearing be it known that Tony Parker absolutely isn't going to range shoot anybody to an NBA championship,..he's only moderately shot over .300% from the arc 5 times in his 9 year career and shooting it at a woeful .200% this season as we speak.

    The fix support for Duncan, Parker, Ginobili and the entire teams chances. Is being able to pair Parker with a bigger SG and far better range shooter. To spread the floor for him and others to find better looks from the spacing that would create.

    Thus Duncan can have less bodies to collapse on him and Parker would no longer be so forced into taking looks he's not able to convert. Which along with taking some scoring load off Ginobili as a rotation check in. It'd actually allow Parker to be able to focus on playing more to his dribble drive and midrange pull up strength with more floor spacing to operate within,..it's called understanding and scripting skills sets to exact court chemistry.

    Take a look at this fire power floor element,..


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    All I can say is I sure am glad you're not the GM of the Spurs.

    It is 2009-2010 and Ely still stinks.
    You are the one who brought up the 2007 le year, not me, I simply stated he had little to nothing to do with that le run, there was reason he was not wanted here, and it is the same reason they still do not want him, even the Kings did not want him...this season, and they are far fom being solid on the inside, that should tell you something. Mahimi is better than Ely and look where he is.

    As for your Almond highlights, I can show highlights of a player and make them look like a great player....Harold Miner, Almond looks slow and lumbering to me, on top of that I see nothing in that montage of his defensive work.

    The rest of your post is just gibberish, all those words and you absolutely nothing really.

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    If only Phoenix or Utah or Cleveland had acquired Melvin Ely in the spring of 2007 . . . we'd have had an entirely different champion that season!!!

    Clearly, Melvin Ely was a player capable of tilting the entire playoff tournament that season in favor of whatever team he played for. The Spurs can thank their lucky stars that they dodged the Melvin Ely bullet all those years ago with their foresight in dumping Eric Williams' salary. In fact, I'm quite sure that the Spurs' le banner should have its LOB removed and a profile pic of Melvin Ely put in its place.

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    All I can say is I sure am glad you're not the GM of the Spurs.

    It is 2009-2010 and Ely still stinks.
    You are the one who brought up the 2007 le year, not me, I simply stated he had little to nothing to do with that le run, there was reason he was not wanted here, and it is the same reason they still do not want him, even the Kings did not want him...this season, and they are far fom being solid on the inside, that should tell you something. Mahimi is better than Ely and look where he is.

    As for your Almond highlights, I can show highlights of a player and make them look like a great player....Harold Miner, Almond looks slow and lumbering to me, on top of that I see nothing in that montage of his defensive work.

    The rest of your post is just gibberish, all those words and you absolutely nothing really.

    Wrong again Cheryl,..and distinctly.

    See forging yourself into having become the Baroness of bad shots. In message #68 YOU brought the Ely with the Spurs in 2007 inference up exclusively and as such,..and in direct quote too.

    There is a reason Melvin Ely is a free agent right now, his Bball IQ terrible, and that is being nice, and his "D" is just as bad. The Spurs had him once and got rid of him for a reason, why would they want him back?

    Almond is a scorer, which something the Spurs don't really need, they need a defender, I don't know much about him except from stats, but the stats indicate his "D" is not very good.
    Now stop yer lying and listen,.. either you're now claiming you're misquoting yourself? Or that's just an amazing recollection of what you " didn't bring up ",..huh?

    Even beyond that bad bounce there Baroness there's this,..

    Anybody whom would dare allege that Ian Mahinmi is better than Melvin Ely at this juncture. Is nothing short of ability blind, basketball super stupid or both,..seems you're now shooting the bonus there Baroness.

    Where to curry favor with their either yet to learn better or never knew plight. They should either be fed a growing kids diet or a night cap of warm milk and graham crackers for a late night treat,..it's not wrong not to know but it's relative and profound of you either way.

    Thirdly,..there indeed is a very understandable reason why Melvin Ely is a free agent. So for the benefit of collective clarity lets get you up to speed here,..applying clipboard awareness, game grasp knowledge and organizational understanding to apply the sciences of basketball IQ.

    See Ely signed with Sacramento after his contract with ship wrecked New Orleans expired this season. The Kings then got a chance to look at Sean May for dirt cheap and amidst an array of factors Ely was released in a numbers game,..with an equation of cutting cost, corralling youth and setting their sites on farming now in hopes of winning later.

    See the Kings ownership and everybody else of interest of the sport better know the Kings aren't competing for anything but a yet to be determined lottery position in the forthcoming 2010 draft. So their focus is upon cutting cost and harvesting youth in efforts to build with to compete after this season,..they're currently trying to move SG/SF Kevin Martin and it's got nothing to do with lacking talent and all to do with cost.

    So along with their gambling that PF Sean May whom was the 13th pick in the 2005 NBA draft could stay healthy. In their least expense youth movement they also have a 6'11" - 7'0" and 23 year old Jason Thompson who's logging over 42 mins a game to accelerate his impressive development in the post,..he's good now and has the potential to even become measurably better getting those minutes.

    Right along with a 7'1" and even younger Spencer Hawes that's equally impressive and getting developmental minutes,..the Kings are clearly investing in the future and at 31 years of age Melvin Ely is a win now type element and expense that won't make them winners right now.

    Where with this economy and unable to move a cap killing $9 million dollar per for Kenny Thomas's contract. Melvin Ely wouldn't have transformed the Kings from puzzle project to any championship compe or,..you understand that now?

    With the Kings forced into playing the youngsters into future players by extensive experience minutes. A 31 year old vet like Melvin Ely whom plays the post would have seen sparse minutes and a mere expense. Thus no doubt the Kings needing to cut cost it was fiscally wise to let Ely go,..now you try infusing your Ian Mahinmi ignorance into that mix.

    Now as for the Spurs,..

    Unlike those playing to lose Kings the Spurs are trying to championship compete right now. And for good reason too with their window of prolonged opportunity on the short side of the clock,..and they don't have a Thompson and Hawes tandem they're waiting to land another lottery pick to add with.

    Granted having filled the entire roster with the full allocation of players allowed under rule. In spite of no team wanting to eat money fact is it's an either or situation for the Spurs. Because they don't have every player they need to be a championship compe or. So now to improve it'd either require a trade partner to accept some non contributing commodity players in exchange for those whom are,..possible but not likely.

    Or it'd take eating a portion of Marcus Haislip and Malik Hairston's contracts themselves. To waive them to free up the roster spots to add the help via the free agency wire and there are no other choices,..aside from losing this season and trying it again in the 2010-11 season.

    Which would be a costly venture with being 5th in the league in cap cost and their core getting another year older. Along with the opportunity window of winning with them closing quiet unceremoniously,..and to do nothing would be bad math and buzzards luck there Baroness.

    Oh and about Morris Almond's defense,..he's known to block the shots of centers.


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    This guy writes so incoherently its hard to follow but he seems to be implying that Popovich needs to call Morris Almond and Melvin Eli's agents as some sort of "solution" to the spurs current state of affairs.

    This guy must be a comedian. Spurs don't need these guys, what they need is patience and time to let this team develop some chemistry and bonding. We've all seen flashes of what they are capable of when they play with some fire, especially Blair.

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    I've cracked the code:

    Here's my last post, in HoopsCzar-ese:

    As only Phoenix or jute or Cleveland Melvin Elly in spring of 2007… we had obtained; in whole had the different pioneer who season! ! !

    Clearly was Melvin Elly a competent player the whole championships - off which for, have played of group [xen].

    The pulses can thank their lucky ASTRE qu' intend they ball Melvin these Elly all years with their forecast to avoided by Eric Williams' to fly remunerations.

    In reality I rather certainly then Spurs' must the emblem of le LOB removed and PIC of diagram Melvin Elly have that its effective have become.

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    If only Phoenix or Utah or Cleveland had acquired Melvin Ely in the spring of 2007 . . . we'd have had an entirely different champion that season!!!

    Clearly, Melvin Ely was a player capable of tilting the entire playoff tournament that season in favor of whatever team he played for. The Spurs can thank their lucky stars that they dodged the Melvin Ely bullet all those years ago with their foresight in dumping Eric Williams' salary. In fact, I'm quite sure that the Spurs' le banner should have its LOB removed and a profile pic of Melvin Ely put in its place.
    Say again,..


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    That even though Melvin Ely was acquired by the Spurs in 2007 before the playoffs started. Even though they didn't physically need him they ensured no other contender would land him as to face him on their roster as an opponent,..and apparently it worked as planned.
    like you say, acquiring Melvin Ely to keep him off of any other roster was a masterstroke. It probably saved the Spurs in 2007. Lord knows how they could have possibly beaten any squad if doing so meant dealing with Melvin Ely!

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    Guys, do not diss Melvin Ely. My Player in NBA 2k10 landed on the Lakers unfortunately by an accident and he is the only guy consistent enough to score when I pass the ball to him, netting me many assists.

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