Rockets and Bulls talking trade

[sook]

I noticed that too, he reminds me of Manu on that regard.

exactly, people rag on Manu b.c he plays off the bench like landry is now, but these guys are INCREDIBLY efficient and help their team win.

Whats ironic is both these guys were 2nd round picks and worked really hard, landry increased his vertical by 5 inches his rookie year to earn some playing time, learned a jumpshot properly for the first time, and increased his FT% by alot

[DAF86]

You're not undersanding the point. We ARE getting something if we let his contract expire , thats a crap load of money we can throw at an all star or super star to guarantee them here. We have an AWESOME core, we need an all star big man and we will be the kings of old.

That was exactly my point.

[Xylus]

You're not undersanding the point. We ARE getting something if we let his contract expire , thats a crap load of money we can throw at an all star or super star to guarantee them here. We have an AWESOME core, we need an all star big man and we will be the kings of old.

But instead you're getting James' and Millers' expiring contracts, plus Salmons. I think the Rockets still benefit.

[sook]

Unlike most here, I don't think it's a bad trade for the Bulls. If TMac can come back and stay relatively healthy, he's exactly what that team needs.

Thats exactly what will happen, tmac looks pretty good i have to say....but regardless adelman's system isn't taylored for him. Thats the reason he isn't playing, sure he will help us now. But adelman's plans are for the long run he is basically reconstructing the kings.

[sook]

That was exactly my point.

good so we agree

[sook]

But instead you're getting James' and Millers' expiring contracts, plus Salmons. I think the Rockets still benefit.

Yup, i think a deal not including scola/landry/brooks/lowry is good

[djohn2oo8]

Even if this trade does not go down, which I hope it does, McGrady will not remain a Rocket all the way up to the deadline

[robbie380]

But instead you're getting James' and Millers' expiring contracts, plus Salmons. I think the Rockets still benefit.

those contracts could be much more easily traded too

[baseline bum]

I wouldn't move Landry nor Scola... not for the crap Chicago is offering.

[TDMVPDPOY]

if you can get 4 players for 2, pull the trigger

nice backup for yao in miller,
you get thomas who can rebound and blockshots to help out yao down low,

salmons ftw

[GuerillaBlack]

You'd rob them blind by giving them TMac + Landry for B. Miller, T. Thomas, Salmons and J. James. Landry is no better than Thomas, and convincing Landry to stay after this year in Houston would probably be hard. You'd keep a great 2 guard for 2 years, and the rest are expiring and you could convince T. Thomas to stay - a front court of Thomas and Scola would be a good core for the Rockets, surrounded by Brooks, Salmons and Ariza.

Brooks
Salmons
Ariza
Scola
Thomas

Surround that team with some savvy vets and roleplayers, and you could lure a big time All-Star next season.

And Thomas is three years younger than Landry, but I'd miss Landry. I think he's better than Thomas. I'd rather trade Scola honestly, but it would still be a beastly trade.

[Indazone]

Landry is a young developing All-Star. You do not trade Landry for second tier players. Scola I could see letting go but even that is painful. If I"m Morey I stand pat on that trade and let T-Mac's contract expire. How much damage can T-Mac do if he's not allowed near any of the team facilities? What's he going to do? Buy a ticket behind Adleman and act like a wuss the way Marbury did?

[Kai]

From my point of view, the Rockets are completely prepared to go to war with what we have, meaning letting McGrady expire. Of course they don't want to do that, but they have faith in our current roster. This means T-Mac is house money, as in anything we get for him and only him is a plus. I really don't see any reason for us to include anyone like Landry, Scola, Lowry, etc. in a deal, unless it means a significant upgrade.

Know now that Tracy will not be traded any time soon. There is no reason for the Rockets to pull the trigger on any deal right away, even if we're offered LeBron (). The trade deadline is more likely to help us get more, and not the other way around, seeing as we'd be fine letting him expire anyways. I'd expect a deal to be done in February.

[Indazone]

Miller and Salmons for T-Mac and a draft pick. What more do you need?

[The Franchise]

And Thomas is three years younger than Landry, but I'd miss Landry. I think he's better than Thomas. I'd rather trade Scola honestly, but it would still be a beastly trade.

Anyone that says they would rather have Thomas than Landry hasn't been paying much attention to Landry. I would much rather trade Scola than Landry, and I would never have said that at the beginning of the season.

[Venti Quattro]

Morey is a Jedi Master lol

[The Franchise]

From my point of view, the Rockets are completely prepared to go to war with what we have, meaning letting McGrady expire. Of course they don't want to do that, but they have faith in our current roster. This means T-Mac is house money, as in anything we get for him and only him is a plus. I really don't see any reason for us to include anyone like Landry, Scola, Lowry, etc. in a deal, unless it means a significant upgrade.

Know now that Tracy will not be traded any time soon. There is no reason for the Rockets to pull the trigger on any deal right away, even if we're offered LeBron (). The trade deadline is more likely to help us get more, and not the other way around, seeing as we'd be fine letting him expire anyways. I'd expect a deal to be done in February.

Great post. The Rockets really aren't under pressure to get anything done. Either teams give us something we want or we let him expire. We are sitting pretty no matter what happens.

[Double-Up]

Most of these deals aren't that great, I believe we'll just hold onto him for a few weeks until something better comes up if at all.

[HarlemHeat37]

Trading anybody in addition to McGrady would just be stupid for Houston IMO..why move Landry or Scola just to get back Tyrus Thomas?..they're both significantly better than him, no point in doing this..

Houston is in a tough position here though..why would they want Salmons when they already have wing players that want the ball anyways?..that would interfere with Ariza taking 40 shots a night..they're better off giving Budinger more minutes IMO..

On the other hand, they obviously need to move McGrady, or it will become a problem..

Also, who exactly are they going to go after in FA next year?..if they do go after Bosh, you can't have Scola AND Landry on the team with him, it's redundant..

I don't know, Houston has TOO much depth, especially at some of the same positions..

[Indazone]

Bosh can play center like Amare Stoudamire

[HarlemHeat37]

Bosh gets absolutely abused as a C on the defensive end..he's actually a pretty decent and underrated defender when he plays PF, but his defense is horrible when the Raptors have played him at C..it brings their team down..

also, what happens to Yao?..isn't he opting to stay for the last year?..

Bosh/Yao frontcourt is really scary, but I'd say they'd have to move Scola or Landry in that case IMO..they could get something nice though, they're both good players..

I don't think Bosh will be in Houston though, highly doubt it..

[DPG21920]

Ummmm...Rockets get 18M in expiring to keep, plus a serviceable player in Salmons that is healthy...You do that trade.

That means they are trading 5M in expiring for Salmons. That is a good deal.

[HarlemHeat37]

I would do the trade..I just don't know what direction they're going to go in general, they have a lot of bunched up talent..

[kingmalaki]

Ummmm...Rockets get 18M in expiring to keep, plus a serviceable player in Salmons that is healthy...You do that trade.

That means they are trading 5M in expiring for Salmons. That is a good deal.

It isn't worth giving up Landry to acquire Salmons, from a talent perspective or financially. Salmons can either become a free agent or pick up his $6M option next season, which means the Rockets have used most of their cap space on him. Thomas has to be resigned, so you are basically deciding between him and Scola, not to mention probably paying him more than the $3M that Landry is locked in at.

That trade is a piece of horse spit.

[Roxsfan]

no way we give up Landry or Scola. Just let Mac expire, that alone will be enough "trade" for mac to get his salary off the books.