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Yeah, it might hurt them this season cause of T-Mac's health, but it frees up nearly 20mil in cap space next off season and gets rid of two overpaid players, neither one of which being the long term answer at the two.
Unless T-BACK is still hurt...
Yeah, it might hurt them this season cause of T-Mac's health, but it frees up nearly 20mil in cap space next off season and gets rid of two overpaid players, neither one of which being the long term answer at the two.
Unless T-BACK is still hurt...
Given how the Suns' training staff handled Nash's back that shouldn't be a problem.
I dunno T-Mac is a whole different person/story though...this guy just can't stay healthy for jack ...
I hope that Phoenix proposed deal is b/s
DOK - Are Hill and Frye expected to opt out???
Unless T-BACK is still hurt...
ummm no...
If Phoenix does that trade and TMac never plays a minute for them...do you realize what that trade would give Phoenix?
As a Laker fan I would be very worried if Phoenix was able to pull that off...I would feel comfort in knowing Sarvar would have to write out that max contract in 2010....but damn they would be in a great position
I have no idea. If I had to guess, I'd say Channing does and Grant doesn't.
Do you think they are Wizards or something? Yes, they have a great track record, but it is not just about T-Mac's "health". There are other factors to consider. Not to mention that T-Mac worked with the "magic man" this summer and still looks shaky.
The same guy Jordan, Wade, Arenas ...all worked with. T-Mac looks much worse than all of them.
They did a great job with Shaq, but a big problem with him was his weight. That is not a medical issue and they did a good job of helping him with that.
Amare is an athletic freak of nature and that surely helped his recovery.
Grant Hill is a nice story and Nash often looks like he is in pain, but he still competes at a high level. Also, the soft, no defense system is easier on the body than other teams systems as well. That is not a shot, but just an observation.
if this happens...Phoenix has 21.7 mil on tap going into next summer.
They would have a lot of holes but man...if they have a good off-season they could really pick up some talent to surround nash with...
All fair points except we really have no idea how Tmac looks given how limited his PT is........with Shaq it was largely about knowing what muscles to strengthen so he wouldn't put unnecessary stress on other body pars. That could very well be the case with T-Mac.
Frye, yes. He's having a career year and is making only 2 million this and next on this contract. However, I'd imagine he'd want to resign with Phoenix (where he's from, anyways).
Hill could opt out, but likely won't. He's happy with the money since he signed the deal knowing his market, and chose Phoenix in the midst of turmoil and turnover so he could play things out.
Either way, if Hill chooses to stay and Frye resigns for the MLE, a trade for McGrady and Amare opting out of his deal still gives the Suns approximately 20-to-25 million CAP.
With Nash, Hill, Frye (at MLE), Dragic, Dudley, Lopez and Clark the Suns CAP would be around 27 million.
That would likely put them around 25 million under the CAP, enough for one MAX contract, a second MLE and some filler or two near max deals, the first likely to keep Amare, the second to add a better SG (if one is available via free agency or trade).
Again, that's IF McGrady is acquired and his 21 million allowed to come off the CAP.
Should both Frye and Hill opt out and not return, with McGrady and Amare off the books, Phoenix is looking at roughly 35 million or so in CAP space with Nash, Dragic, Dudley, Lopez and Clark under contract.
Should both Frye and Hill pick up their options (unlikely), with McGrady and Amare off the books, Phoenix is looking at roughly 30 million or so in CAP space with Nash, Hill, Frye, Dragic, Dudley, Lopez and Clark under contract.
Lots of options, all of which are contingent upon McGrady coming, then going...
I'm not sure how attractive they'd be for free agents, but damn, if they somehow got D-Wade.
Possibly, but I remember seeing a blown dunk on a fast break by T-Mac thinking: "wow, that is not a good sign". He can still be effective I guess, but my whole point was don't fool yourself into thinking it would be a good basketball move for this year.
It would be a white flag for this year and move for the next year.
Well the blown dunk could be just shaking off rust, but either way, it's a white flag in a year they had little to no shot at making any noise, and a move that gives them tons of routes to chose from. IMO, the future pros outweigh the immediate cons.
And idk why but a part of me has always craved T-Mac in a Suns jersey ever since he was almost traded here in 2004.
I agree with that, but they are trying to build a positive culture and winning is surely more fun than losing. Fans don't really buy into that kind of thinking either. Especially with the Suns competing with the top teams early on.
I think my ideal is this...
Hill stays under current deal, Frye resigns at the MLE level, Wade is signed at a MAX contract, David Lee signed for a 10/12 per year range contract, Amundson resigned for whatever is left.
PG: Nash, Dragic
SG: Wade
SF: Hill, Dudley, Clark
PF: Frye, Amundson
C: Lee, Lopez
Ideally, this season the Suns figure out a way to swipe Jordan Hill from the Knicks. Construct a package around Clark (more the ideal combo for a D'Antoni system, anyways). Collins' expiring deal/Clark/Future 1st for Hill might work.
Hill brings the athleticism they lose by letting Amare walk and has more rebounding and defensive skills.
woldn't count on Dwade...but I think bosh would be interested in playing with nash.
he seems like a perfect fit...
dont expect joe j to call ya this summer though!
Dear ing God, I've been dreaming of that lineup for years.
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dont expect joe j to call ya this summer though!
HIGHLY unlikely, but Bryan Colangelo is gone, so JJ might not be extremely hostile.
Idk how good than lineup would be. The big men are so awful.
David Lee is averaging 19 and 11 this year.
Yeah, in the Antoni cuckold offense.
With the Magnificent Duhon dishing him the ball.
David Lee is a much better rebounder and is just as active as Amare is now. Can't shoot as well, but Frye can still stretch the floor. Lee has enough size, strength and athleticism to win enough in a one-on-one situation with the floor spread. Especially with Nash feeding him the ball.
If the trade for Hill can be done, there's potential.
Suns aren't getting two MAX contracts. I mean, they aren't getting that lineup, either, so, none of this really matters. But in order for the Suns to have the money to land Wade/Bosh or even Wade and keep Amare, Frye is gone - maybe even Hill.
I don't think the Suns will have that kind of money. I think Sarver sees that Frye might be willing to resign for the MLE, and for the production level he's at currently, that's a smart signing.
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