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    First of all. You cannot ing compare the two until Kobe retires. First and foremost. His career is not finished. He has a LONG way to go. The guy is only 31 years old.

    Will he reach Jordan? WHo knows...its going to be tough. Jordan was incredible. Top 2 of all-time if not GOAT.

    But ....there are SO many people who HATE....HATE kobe that they are ing missing greatness. Can anybody argue against him being top 5/6 all-time? No...so ing experience this...stop blindly hating the ing guy because he murders your ing team. Just enjoy it.

    For example....I HATED the ing Suns circa 07. I detested D'Antoni. Raja Bell. I hated the out of those guys. I hated Nash on defense. But god damn I appreciated what he did on the offensive half of the court. The guy is a ing wizard on O. It is beautiful to watch.

    I'm lucky to have been able to witness him.


    A lot of you people aren't going to be able to say the samehting in regards to Kobe...and that ing sucks for you.

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    You know what? You're partially right. A lot of people will never mention how great Kobe was because of their hatred for him. But I don't hate Kobe. I think Kobe is the best player alive today. But he'll never be Jordan...never. The rules have changed, msb...When Jordan played, there was no hand check rule. The guard could be pushed around, thrown around, and fouls wouldn't be called. Nowadays, you so much as place your palm on a guard and a foul is called, making it impossible to play defense. He won't get there because of things like that.

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    The thing that is sad about this debate is that there shouldn't be a debate. The only reason why there even is a debate is because of all the Kobe nuthuggers.

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    Attention Lakerfan: There's already two other threads about Kobe... please stop starting threads just for attention whoring...

    Thanks

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    The thing that is sad about this debate is that there shouldn't be a debate. The only reason why there even is a debate is because of all the Kobe nuthuggers.

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    LOL I can easily argue against Kobe for top 5-6 all-time, it isn't difficult..

    Making an argument for Jordan, Wilt, Russell, Magic, Bird, Hakeem, Shaq and Duncan would be very easy..you may not agree that all those guys have been better, but we can EASILY make an argument..

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    LOL I can easily argue against Kobe for top 5-6 all-time, it isn't difficult..

    Making an argument for Jordan, Wilt, Russell, Magic, Bird, Hakeem, Shaq and Duncan would be very easy..you may not agree that all those guys have been better, but we can EASILY make an argument..
    Kobe is not even the greatest Laker of all time. Since Jordan is better than Magic, he is better than Kobe. /thread

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    There is nothing worse than to lie to yourself. Sad, sad stuff Laker fans.

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    I dont hate Kobe I only hate his fans that hate LeBron & Cavs.

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    If Kobe was TRULY great, I would have said so.

    I laugh at this debate because I can see with my own eyes Kobe benefits from HYPE and bull myth

    He's NOT the best closer in the NBA today. Look at the stats. LeBron, Melo, there are 10 players who have better clutch time stats than he does, more game winners than he does.

    His defense is OVERRATED. Kobe on the first team all-defense last year was a ING JOKE, and any fan who paid attention will agree.

    Kobe CANNOT dominate a game and do something magical like Jordan, Larry, Magic, and all the greats could. he just can't. I don't see .

    What I do see, is him jacking up UGLY shots, missing 3 of them, and then his TEAM keeps him in the game, and he makes a ty 3 pointer with a man in his face, and gets credit for it.

    What I do see, is Kobe elbowing people in the face, whining to the referees, and pushing players out of the way to get an open shot and not have a foul called on him.

    Get the out of here.

    If he truly was there, you wouldn't have so much dissent.

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    But ....there are SO many people who HATE....HATE kobe that they are ing missing greatness. Can anybody argue against him being top 5/6 all-time? No...so ing experience this...stop blindly hating the ing guy because he murders your ing team. Just enjoy it.
    Better careers than Kobe:
    1) Michael Jordan
    2) Magic Johnson
    3) Larry Bird
    4) Wilt Chamberlain
    5) Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
    6) Shaquille O'Neal
    7) Hakeem Olajuwon
    8) Tim Duncan

    Kobe ain't top 6 yet. It could happen, but it's ridiculous to count championships before they have been won.

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    YOu guys do what you gotta do....I'm not going to ign argue non stop about it....deep down you guys know...deep down I know.....Kobe is ing amazing....

    if you guys want to talk BULL and hate then by my guest....its your ing loss


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    First of all. You cannot ing compare the two until Kobe retires. First and foremost. His career is not finished. He has a LONG way to go. The guy is only 31 years old.

    Will he reach Jordan? WHo knows...its going to be tough. Jordan was incredible. Top 2 of all-time if not GOAT.

    But ....there are SO many people who HATE....HATE kobe that they are ing missing greatness. Can anybody argue against him being top 5/6 all-time? No...so ing experience this...stop blindly hating the ing guy because he murders your ing team. Just enjoy it.

    For example....I HATED the ing Suns circa 07. I detested D'Antoni. Raja Bell. I hated the out of those guys. I hated Nash on defense. But god damn I appreciated what he did on the offensive half of the court. The guy is a ing wizard on O. It is beautiful to watch.

    I'm lucky to have been able to witness him.


    A lot of you people aren't going to be able to say the samehting in regards to Kobe...and that ing sucks for you.
    Are you on drugs or something?

    Out of the ones I've seen: Jordan, Magic, Bird, Shaq, Duncan, Olajuwon and even though Lebron doesn't have the accolades yet he is better than Kobe right now. You had to add to this list guys like Wilt, Kareem, Russell, etc.

    I could even argue about him beign a top 10 player of all time.

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    No, really, it's not my loss

    When I see the real deal on the court, I will say it.

    The only guy I see, in the entire NBA, that has a chance at challenging Mike, is LeBron. He's only 25...

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    The thing i dont like about the Kobe/MJ debate that is that people have to bash on one of them in order to praise another

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    YOu guys do what you gotta do....I'm not going to ign argue non stop about it....deep down you guys know...deep down I know.....Kobe is ing amazing....

    if you guys want to talk BULL and hate then by my guest....its your ing loss


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    Seriously man, Kobe is great but he isn't as great as you think.

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    The thing i dont like about the Kobe/MJ debate that is that people have to bash on one of them in order to praise another

    this.... ...appreciate both of them god damn

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    The thing i dont like about the Kobe/MJ debate that is that people have to bash on one of them in order to praise another
    You = troll for that statement

    All I see is people ting all over Kobe by filling pages with MJ's accomplishments

    kobe can't even touch him.

    I don't even waste my time bashing Kobe. I all over him by posting MJ's stats and accomplishments.

    That's enough

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    Seriously man, Kobe is great but he isn't as great as you think.

    he has only finished HALF his fukcing career....


    no matter what SIDE of the argument you are on....you cannot ing talk about his career like its over...

    what if he retires with 8 rings...wat r people going to say then???

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    How about you bother us with this garbage then?

    or should I make a thread about LeBron and how he is going to win more rings than the entire Laker franchise history?

    or maybe we should all STFU and wait?

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    this.... ...appreciate both of them god damn
    Kobe is one of the best basketball players I've seen in my life. There, happy? but he isn't a top 6 player of all time by any means, he lacks a little bit of efficency to be placed in that position.

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    he has only finished HALF his fukcing career....


    no matter what SIDE of the argument you are on....you cannot ing talk about his career like its over...

    what if he retires with 8 rings...wat r people going to say then???
    Half? more like 3/4 at best. And it's not a matter of how many rings he collects, that's a team's aspect. It's about his individual performance and how much influence he has in helping his team win those rings. For ex., You are a Lakers fan you should know that Kobe's influence in last year's championship wasn't bigger than Shaq's influence on the three peat LA had at the begging of the decade.

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    Kobe is one of the best basketball players I've seen in my life. There, happy? but he isn't a top 6 player of all time by any means, he lacks a little bit of efficency to be placed in that position.

    lets wait til his career is over then talk!

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