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  1. #151
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    Blablabla no Zone blabla 400 win % or rings without Pippen blablabla. Let's stop this already.

    Without question MJ is Goat. Kobe reminds us of him and is so far the best player since MJ to me.

    Is Kobe on par with MJ this far? NO. Is he in the backseat? I think so.

    Kobe has some of the same skills as MJ which is the reason they are being compared. I don't see Kareem or Russell being compared to MJ. But like Kobe said let him be Kobe and MJ be MJ.

    Lakers fans loves Kobe because he has brought it every night this past decade with broken bones and what not. He is more hungry for rings than everybody else I've seen and he has brought them. He gives us amazing games that blow our minds.
    For these reasons and many more Lakers fans will always defend him.

    So can't we just enjoy Kobe for who he is; a ing great baller.
    Kobe was being compared to MJ when he was 18 years old

    why? because everyone wanted to find the next jordan

    Jordan was so amazing, everyone wanted another one.

    Kobe is the one that most stuck because

    1) He played with Shaq and got 3 rings as a sidekick

    2) He works hard and tries very hard to copy MJ's moves

    3) He is dedicated and serious about trying to be great

    4) Lazy mother ers like McGrady, Vince Carter, all these guys had as much or even more talent than Kobe did, but neither of them took it seriously.

    don't believe the hype.

  2. #152
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    always keep in mind the defense:
    Jordan rules
    There weren't flagrant fouls in Jordan's era. Teams would just knock Jordan to the floor, and the referee's only option was to call a regular foul.

    Handchecking
    The NBA got rid of handchecking, this was to allow for easier driving to the basket and it free's up the ball handler. In Michael's era, they would double team him as soon as his shoulder dropped and he tried taking it to the hoop. It was legal to stop Jordan with your hands, not just your feet and position. Handchecking helped out less athletic defenders, who could make up for being half a step slow, by using their hands to hold the ball-handler at 'bay'.

    Bigs waiting in the paint
    In Michael's era, bigs had a right to 'airspace'. Now the rules are as such that bigs can't jump to block a dunk or layup because if they make contact, it's a foul. There was no 3 second rule so teams would clog the lane to take away MJ's 'above the rim attack'. In Jordan's day you could jump from inside of the circle, or wherever you wanted, and as long as you jumped straight up, and not into the ball-handler, it was not a foul. Much more physical brand of basketball was played in Michael Jordan's era.

    Also now they allow ball-handlers to carry the basketball. As well as players like Kobe Bryant get more touch fouls now on the perimeter than any single player in the history of the sport. It is a changed game.
    Check and mate.

  3. #153
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    I dont think Kobe is GOAT
    I dont think Spurs are team of decade (though it's close)... the stats should show you that 4 les 6 finals appearances only 1 missed playoff all that matters
    Duncan player of the decade .. i agree (but it's close Kobe is 2nd)

  4. #154
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    Kobe was being compared to MJ when he was 18 years old

    why? because everyone wanted to find the next jordan

    Jordan was so amazing, everyone wanted another one.

    Kobe is the one that most stuck because

    1) He played with Shaq and got 3 rings as a sidekick

    2) He works hard and tries very hard to copy MJ's moves

    3) He is dedicated and serious about trying to be great

    4) Lazy mother ers like McGrady, Vince Carter, all these guys had as much or even more talent than Kobe did, but neither of them took it seriously.

    don't believe the hype.
    Did you write this yourself or steal this too and pass it off as yours?

  5. #155
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    More like Cut and Paste.

  6. #156
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    What's ups MiamiChris? No comment on your passing off another persons writing as your own? Everybody gave Tacker so much for doing the same.... what is your excuse?

  7. #157
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    Miami Heat has to some here and spew crapcuz his team cant do much on the court hope you can KEEP wade ...

  8. #158
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    I find it kind of ironic that he comments on just about evey post I make yet totally ignores when I call him out for using someone elses words as his own. Classic ness!

  9. #159
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    Funny how people elevate one asshole just to make another asshole look bad.

    They are both assholes with mad basketball skills and leave it at that.

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    No I did not copy this dumbass thats all me? LOL at all you spurs fans who can't help but to get owned by true facts....
    Uh ohhhhh... did you use the wrong account? My question was a direct reply to Miami postiing other peoples writing. I even quoted him in the post and you replied to it. Hmmmmmmmm

    And I am Laker fan YOU DUMBASS.

    Tacker and Miami the same person... awwwww that explains the plagarism theme don't it.

  11. #161
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    No I did not copy this dumbass thats all me? LOL at all you spurs fans who can't help but to get owned by true facts....
    I don't think cobbler is a spurs fan. Idiot....

  12. #162
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    I don't think cobbler is a spurs fan. Idiot....
    Miami/Tacker is a moron. Everyone knows I am a diehard Laker fan. Unlike a lot though, I actually have a lot of respect for the Spurs organization. That doesnt mean I wont talk trash and/or think the Lakers are far superior... but the respect is there. Class organization.

  13. #163
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    I thought Lebron was the best player in the NBA last season. In the regular season that is. Kobe was the best player in the playoffs. Lebron did not play at his best and that is on him.

    Edit : I should also add it was pretty clear that Kobe had a better team around him than Lebron had in the playoffs.
    nothing like "blame it on the team" bull ...for the team with the best record and MVP...dude grow a fat and stop being a pussy...Lebronze had a superior team until he ran into Orlando right...what pussy u are...just be a ing man and admit the obvious...Kobe is simply a better player...team be dam aside...

  14. #164
    I'm Mavs>Spurs bitch Allanon's Avatar
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    Phil certainly has a point if you're talking about clutch shots. If I recall correctly, only Bird is ahead of Kobe in game winners.

    In everything else Kobe is still behind Jordan but he still has 5 years to catch up.

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    WTF are you talking about?
    Go back and read the posts moron. I was replying to Miami and quoted him and you jumped in and answered. Aparently you forgot to login with the appropriate account.

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    I called Miami out for plagarizing.

    Then he posted another comment:

    Kobe was being compared to MJ when he was 18 years old

    why? because everyone wanted to find the next jordan

    Jordan was so amazing, everyone wanted another one.

    Kobe is the one that most stuck because

    1) He played with Shaq and got 3 rings as a sidekick

    2) He works hard and tries very hard to copy MJ's moves

    3) He is dedicated and serious about trying to be great

    4) Lazy mother ers like McGrady, Vince Carter, all these guys had as much or even more talent than Kobe did, but neither of them took it seriously.

    don't believe the hype.

    I replied with:

    Did you write this yourself or steal this too and pass it off as yours?

    And you answered it with:

    No I did not copy this dumbass thats all me? LOL at all you spurs fans who can't help but to get owned by true facts....

    And now you edited that post to:


    Like it's going to change anything.

    You are a that pawns others words off as yours and Miami just did the same. You obiously used the wrong account, got caught, and are backpeddling like the pussy you are MiamiTackRichards.

    Is that laid out clear enough for you?

  17. #167
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    whatever... your going on the ignore list with em... cause you are just as idiotic.

    Nice try though...

  18. #168
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    Hahahaha this dumbass thought I was MiamiHeat
    you realize all KoriEllis has to do is post and your ass is owned right?

    Why copy my post?


    ChrisRichards was already exposed as a troll for trying to copy me

    you next?

  19. #169
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    whatever... your going on the ignore list with em... cause you are just as idiotic.

    Nice try though...
    What a great idea!

    Ignore List aka the Troll list:


    All added!


  20. #170
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    I'm totally with mono on the "many people thought" bull about Pippen. I was following the NBA closely at the time and no-one was discussing him as the best player in the NBA. Top 10, sure, but not the best. No diss on Pippen who I love, but namlook is kidding himself on that one.

    As for Kobe vs Jordan, MJ played in a much tougher era than Kobe, who won his only championship without Shaq since the NBA ushered in the "can't breathe on perimeter players" era. MJ is the GOAT - more rings, more MVPs, more of a load to carry (he had Pippen, Rodman and a bunch of solid role players, Kobe has had more talented teams overall) - and Kobe has a long way to go to be in the same conversation.

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    I'm totally with mono on the "many people thought" bull about Pippen. I was following the NBA closely at the time and no-one was discussing him as the best player in the NBA. Top 10, sure, but not the best. No diss on Pippen who I love, but namlook is kidding himself on that one.

    As for Kobe vs Jordan, MJ played in a much tougher era than Kobe, who won his only championship without Shaq since the NBA ushered in the "can't breathe on perimeter players" era. MJ is the GOAT - more rings, more MVPs, more of a load to carry (he had Pippen, Rodman and a bunch of solid role players, Kobe has had more talented teams overall) - and Kobe has a long way to go to be in the same conversation.
    No I'm not kidding myself. I was following the NBA at the time and the talk was there. It's 100% true that there was discussion about Pippen being the second best player after Jordan at that time. This was fueled by the Bulls having three-peated with Jordan and Pippen. Pippen was easily a top 5 player so it's not that crazy.

    Top ten player? LOL. If you are going to come in here and tell me Pippen was just a top ten player and not top five then you have a serious case of Alzheimer's.

    I agree Kobe has a ways to go to match Jordan's career but he's got another 5 good years in him as a dominant player and he could play a few more years after that at all-star level. Kobe could end up being the leading scoring in NBA history (or close to it) with 6-7 rings. If those things happen he's right there. And if Kobe does something crazy like win another 4 rings people will be talking about him being better than Jordan and they will have an argument. But yeah, he's definitely not there yet.
    Last edited by namlook; 01-04-2010 at 02:47 AM.

  22. #172
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    I'm totally with mono on the "many people thought" bull about Pippen. I was following the NBA closely at the time and no-one was discussing him as the best player in the NBA. Top 10, sure, but not the best. No diss on Pippen who I love, but namlook is kidding himself on that one.

    As for Kobe vs Jordan, MJ played in a much tougher era than Kobe, who won his only championship without Shaq since the NBA ushered in the "can't breathe on perimeter players" era. MJ is the GOAT - more rings, more MVPs, more of a load to carry (he had Pippen, Rodman and a bunch of solid role players, Kobe has had more talented teams overall) - and Kobe has a long way to go to be in the same conversation.


    These kobe nuthuggers are pathetic.

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    This message is hidden because MiamiHeat is on your ignore list.
    This message is hidden because Tacker is on your ignore list.
    This message is hidden because Tacker is on your ignore list.

    LOL.

  24. #174
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    lol...so...Tacker=MiamiHeat=ChrisRichards=HarlemHe at.

    damn...so many log-ins to switch..no wonder he keeps slippin.

  25. #175
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    lol...so...Tacker=MiamiHeat=ChrisRichards=HarlemHe at.

    damn...so many log-ins to switch..no wonder he keeps slippin.
    Kori stated that MiamiHeat is not ChrisRichards in the cleaning up thread. I doubt MiamiHeat is anyone's troll and is actually serious.

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