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Ah, is the team of decade Spurs fan logic? Regular season success now determines the NBA Championship?? In that case Dallas must be a dynasty!
What's wrong with you? Bringing common sense to the thread. Geeeeeeeez!
Ah, is the team of decade Spurs fan logic? Regular season success now determines the NBA Championship?? In that case Dallas must be a dynasty!
The Lakers will easily take the Spurs out in the playoffs if both teams are healthy. The Spurs just don't have the size to handle the Lakers front line not to mention that with Bowen gone there is no one on the Spurs that can guard Kobe.
This I disagree with. If the Spurs continue to gel and get better on defense, I think they can hang with the Lakers. Whether they will or not is another story.
- Spursfan90210 2008, 2009
lol first The Game, now namlook. What's with these Lakers fans pretending to be Spurs fans?
If only I was here in 2008...dumbass. And last year our injuries killed us.
Well we all know you would have said that. And 12k posts in less than a year..ouch.
- Spurs Fan 2008, 2009
lol backing up
lol acting like you know one ing thing about me. Yeah...12k posts in less than a year. I have a job that allows me time off, and I enjoy the site. deal with it. Maybe if you had something to say about your team, instead of spending all your time hating on ours, you might have a few knowledgeable things to say as well.
If you think Duncan's bum knee and Manu not playing at all last year in the playoffs didn't matter, you're out of your damn mind. 2008 we have no excuses...bad calls or not, we lost. but last year is a different scenario.- Spurs Fan 2008, 2009
Funny a Spur fan posting this ...when they always "clown" the Mavs or Suns for being the kings of teh regular season who cares? Lakers have the best record but aRE NOT playing like it ...
Spurs started crappy but are looking good playoffs are ALL that matters ...
Tacker isn't a Spurs fan.
this is something that i have always disagreed on I cant wait until we play the lakers in 2 weeks
IMO bowen didn't do that great of a job on kobe I know kobe is a great player but kobe seemed to always dominate the spurs and bowen.
Raje Bell and Paul Pierce are really the only two players to slow down kobe and the spurs can get one of those
the lakers size has not been something that bothers me either because duncan can match up with bynum and mcdyess can match up with gasol well
spurs can try to see if blair can match up with gasol but I think gasol is still to big for blair lakers bench is garbage while spurs have very good offense bench
only artest is the really one that can give spurs fit defense and offense wise but if he shoots 3's all day then thats fine with me
if parker gets it together like last year wow will he kill fisher and go to the paint and get bynum and gasol in foul trouble at times
I still think if the spurs are gelling and have everyone they can beat the lakers in the playoffs
Raja Bell does not slow down Kobe. Pierce does a good job when he has proper interior help. But Raja? Kobe destroys that guy.
Best Kobe defender in the league right now = Trevor Ariza. Length + quickness is the key to defending Kobe. You have to be able to react after Kobe moves and not bite on his pump fakes. Ariza is great at that.
Kobe should be able to post Ariza up in the low block. Kobe is much stronger.
No doubt because they played so much against each other in practice. For the majority of his time with the Lakers Ariza was on the 2nd unit.
I suspect Ratliff will get some minutes when the playoffs are rolling, but that's enough to deal with the Lakers frontcourt. The Lakers bigs aren't the kind of guys that will kill you if you're giving up 2 inches and 10 lbs or something like that. What they can put on the floor is 48 minutes of quality bigs + a very big and strong SF in Artest = versatility + strong high/low game + rebounding/2nd chance points. Jefferson has the strength and length to control Artest and the Spurs bigs have enough quality and size to keep the bigs out of the blocks and to clean the glass.
Jefferson has no hope of slowing down Bryant. Manu will have to defend him to finish games anyway, but I'd prefer to protect him as most as possible till then.
Kobe doesn't like posting up longer guys (see Prince/Pierce). And Ariza blocked Kobe's baseline fadeaway the last time they saw each other. Like Cobbler mentioned, Ariza saw Kobe everyday in practice. He's knows most of his tendencies.
Spurs ed up by not pursuing Trev harder in the off-season.
No they didn't. If the Spurs would have gotten Ariza, that means no McDyess. I would easily rather have RJ + McDyess over Ariza. There are no big men the quality of of RJ being dumped for what the Spurs offered.
Ariza is like 8 million dollars cheaper than RJ and a much better roleplayer, defender and scorer. He instantly makes the Spurs a better team while give SA some 2010 cap flexibility. Losing Mcdyss means more minutes for Blair and some for Oberto. Not that big of a deal. Mcdyss is on the brink of retirement.
You guys ed up whether you want to admit or not.
Let me say this ... Differnce between Laker fans and MOST Spur fans?
Is that team of the decade ...who Charles Barkley thinks is the best in the wEst that stuff matters to them. The hype Kobe or the Lakers gets or the number of TV appearances ...that stuff means dyck to me.
I don't mean to be arrogant here. I live in Sa for 3 years ... in SA it's ALL spurs all the time ...but many feel the Spurs are slighted nationally.
For the Lakers we expect to play on XMAS day and TNT. We expect to be talked about nationally both GOOD and bad. ...
The difference is we don't put up division les, or westen conference banners ...we EXPECT excellence ...and when we don't get it ...we boo! and then losers will come on here and question our fans. some Laker fans are spoiled and think it's end of the world if we lose a regular season game to Cavs or Blazers. The lakers are at the top and they may go down for a while but we always will get back it may take us 12 years but as long as we have solid management in place because LA is a huge market we will win. Players want to play for a winning franchise, a big market and the sunshine ...
How can you say that? I don't care if he is cheaper, RJ is a much better player. LMFAO at saying Ariza is a better scorer. He is on a team where he can be the number one option and he is posting 16 PPG on 38% shooting.
RJ as a number one option was a 20 PPG scorer and shot much better. No question RJ is better and he is fitting in pretty nicely with his 13 PPG on 47% shooting.
Dice is a great guy for the Spurs and will play a pivotal role that Oberto could not. If Dice is on the brink, then Oberto is done already. Blair gets plenty of minutes and not having Dice would be terrible.
You are just saying things to say them now.
RJ a much better player?Look how delusional Spurs fans are these days. It makes sense considering your perimeter defense is pathetic and you act like it won't be a problem come playoff time.
I was talking about Ariza the roleplayer. He scores better than RJ the roleplayer. Of course you probably never watched Ariza when he was on the Lakers.
Ariza is obviously not a 1st option type player but Ariza scores very efficiently as a roleplayer, with a great shot selection. His BBIQ is off the charts - not so much for RJ.
He was a better number 1 option at an older age compared to Ariza but the Bucks couldn't have traded him fast enough.
Mcdyss pivotal role? Haha no. A pivotal role in another first round exit? Yeah maybe. Then he retires and you're stuck with limp overpaid crippling any cap maneuverability the Spurs could have had with Ariza.
Exactly what you're doing. Fact is Ariza would make the Spurs a better team. If you value defense whatsoever. And that's all that will matter in the playoffs where you see elite wing players every series.
You start off ok, then turn back into mode. By your Laker fan logic, having Ariza instead of RJ+Dice would save the Spurs from "a first round exit". Ok.
Also, Ariza the role player vs RJ the role player:
Ariza: 8.9 PTS on 46% FG and 32% 3PT
RJ: 13.2 PTS on 47% FG and 38% 3PT
Also, if Ariza is a better scorer, defender and role player over RJ, then he certainly is over Artest. Artest is not an efficient scorer and not a proven role player. Why did the Lakers let him go?
I prefer Ariza to RJ (much better defence... on the other hand, Artest is too big for Manu or Mason to handle, so it's not like they could put him on Kobe every minute), but, disregarding salaries, I'd rather have RJ+McDyess than Ariza. McDyess will be very important for the Spurs in the post-season.
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