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  1. #26
    Based dirk4mvp's Avatar
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    You're talking to a guy who actually thinks he is part of nba championship teams. Logic is out of the equation.

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    So, if you are comparing Dirk and KG and they have no les, why bring up les? At that point, by your logic you can compare them apples-to-apples.
    I responded to "More like his Minnesota days proved he's not as good of a #1 option as Dirk is. "

    It was a joke. I think you could argue both ways as to who is a better #1 option.

    But lets be realistic, although you may say les are not the end all, I would argue that they are the MAJORITY of athletes aspirations. I'll bet you my house that Barkley, Malone, Dirk etc etc would give up all their individual accolades for the ring. You disagree?

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    Magic asked to be traded? I don't remember that.
    He demanded the coach be fired or trade him.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBiCbnzvbDQ
    Last edited by cobbler; 01-03-2010 at 06:08 PM.

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    No. I agree. That is the goal. But you cannot evaluate players strictly on that. There are so many variables that go into winning a le.

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    You're talking to a guy who actually thinks he is part of nba championship teams. Logic is out of the equation.
    I never ever said i was "a part". I said that I directly contribute to their ships... and I do. It's fact.

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    No. I agree. That is the goal. But you cannot evaluate players strictly on that. There are so many variables that go into winning a le.
    Of couse not. But I do find it kind of funny that someone can say KG (who i cannot stand btw) is in any way inferior to Dirk as a #1 option when neither has won the le. (excluding KG's celt le of course)

    It's a team sport and the whole #1 option thing is completely absurd to me.

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    I disagree about the number one option thing, but we will leave it at that.

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    I disagree about the number one option thing, but we will leave it at that.
    Well... There is a huge history of those #3 thru 5 options making huge plays that enabled championships. Without them they lose and the #1 doesn't get his either. It's a team sport.

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    Then you haven't played sports at any high level and accept losing. I'm pretty sure if you asked Dirk.... it's his #1 goal and priority.
    im pretty sure its not cause you really can't a choke 2-0 lead
    Last edited by Metheny; 01-03-2010 at 06:25 PM.

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    Is Jason Kidd a Star Player, I don't know if I would really call him a Star Player, if he counts then he demanded a trade.

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    Vince Carter obviously demanded a trade.

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    Is Jason Kidd a Star Player
    yes

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    ok thank you, I really didn't know if he was known as one, because everyone around here in NJ are Knick fans, and he got no respect from them in NJ on the Nets and now they dodn't care about him since he is on a west coast team.

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    Vince Carter obviously demanded a trade.
    Yeah, and you could tell by how Raptor fans treated him. Glad he didn't demand a trade away from the Nets like Kidd, he grew up more from his days as a Raptor

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    Is Jason Kidd a Star Player, I don't know if I would really call him a Star Player, if he counts then he demanded a trade.
    He is a bonifide first ballot HOF.

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