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go ahead.
this thread is full of win.
Right, because Peyton not only threw the ball, but caught it for him also!
go ahead.
this thread is full of win.
lol missed the playoffs
comparable numbers with far inferior quarterbacks.
that was easy.
Your argument for Marvin Harrison would work if it wasn't for the fact that damn near every receiver Peyton plays with winds up looking like a hall of famer.
The only reason anybody had even heard of Brandon Stokley before his fluke play this season is because of Peyton Manning.
Jimmy Smith 12 years 862 catches 12287 yards 67 TDs
Hines Ward 12 years 895 catches 10947 yards 78 TDs
Marvin 13 years 1102 catches 14580 yards 128 TDs
that was easy.
you're a dip troll.
like I said, comparable. Not better. Not equal. Comparable. Those numbers clearly show that all 3 have Hall Of Fame level numbers. Which makes them all comparable.
Thanks for proving my point.
That was easy.
you're just a dip .
They aren't close. Not comparable. Not equal. Not close.
You're a dip troll that apparently can't add or subtract
all 3 will go in the Hall Of Fame with those numbers. Sounds pretty comparable to me.
They aren't close. Not comparable. Not equal. Not close.
You're a dip troll that apparently can't add or subtract
they arent as far off as you say, especially considering Smith and Ward played their careers in run heavy offenses, while Harrison obviously was in a pass heavy offense. if they get the ball thrown their way an extra 4 or 5 times a game the way that Harrison did, they could most definitely have put up the same kinds of numbers.
All hall of famers aren't comparable.
Sounds like you are still a dip troll to me.
Hall Of Famers in the same era sure as are.
At this point I stand in the middle of this argument. I'm not ready to start comparing him to Hines Ward, but the way the Colts' offense didn't miss a beat at all once Marvin broke down brings how good Marvin really was into question.
Wayne would have been the #1 on most other teams before Marvin got injured.
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Edgerrin James rushed for 1500 two years in a row. that's a maybe.
either way mono is saying the numbers are comparable.
they are.
I just showed you the numbers for these players in the same era.
You sure as can't add or subtract.
I think it brings to light how good Manning is.
but it's like asking how good would Rice be without Montana or Young or vice versa.
and they're comparable. thanks!
I agree completely, but for argument's sake, couldn't I easily turn that around and say the numbers a receiver with the physical tools as pedestrian as Marvin's were put up with Peyton bring to light how good Peyton is?
only to a tool that apparently thinks an apple is comparable to an orange. Not equal. Comparable. you're welcome!
I think it moves Peyton to another level.
He was hall of fame with Marvin. He might be included in the best ever talks now.
Unless you're mono who thinks all hall of fame QBs are comparable.
not sure how a guy that catches 143 balls in one season can be seen as "pedestrian" no matter what you might think of his physical attributes.
how about you look more closely at the numbers,
if you are talking about the beginning of edges career, peyton still was throwing well over 500 times in those seasons, which is a ing lot. he averaged over 33 pass attempts every game in those seasons.
edge later did it again, and again, if you look, peytons pass attempts dropped, and so did marvins numbers. considerably. he went from having several 100 catch seasons in a row to having around 80 catches a year. yet he still had peyton manning throwing it to him.
now lets take a look at hines wards numbers
in his best statistical year, he had 112 catches, 1300+ yards, and 12 TDs. in that year, there was 551 pass attempts. the next year, he still had a solid season, but his numbers across the board were still damn good, but down a little. not suprisingly, so were the pass attempts. then the year worthlessburger came around, there was a whopping 358 pass attempts. again, Hines numbers dropped considerably, although he was still able to stay in the 1000 yard range.
when the ball is thrown less, then obviously you get less chance to shine. marvin was in an offense where he was able to shine quite a bit, especially when giving a QB that was able to make as mono said, Brandon Stokely look pretty damn solid with a 1000 yard and 10 TD season. he never came remotely CLOSE to matching that in his time with Baltimore and Denver.
marvin = overrated
I think he'll need to play in the postseason as well as he does during the regular season to be considered in the best ever category. He'll probably get up there by the end of his career.
except teams with Randy Moss, TO, Steve Smith, Anquan Boldin, Larry Fitzgerald, Andre Johnson, etc...Wayne would have been the #1 on most other teams before Marvin got injured.
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