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How is he supposed to "stand up" to China and why?
- It seems even his supporters are constantly giving advice on what he should be doing, what he's doing wrong etc. It seems no one has any confidence that he knows how to handle any situation.
- How sad is it that the leader of the most powerful nation in the history of the planet is learning leaderhip from an Abraham Lincoln biography a la "cliffs notes"?
- His latest "the system failed tremendously blah blah blah" speeches seem so transparent. He's obviously in damage control after Napolatano claimed "the system worked". If he wanted to make a statement, he could fire her and people would probably respect him tremendously for it and probably feel "safer".
- The "we'll broadcast negotiations on C-Span" campaign pledge was stupid. A president is not king and he doesnt have the power to mandate this. He looks incredibly foolish and naive now.
- Every month, he's becoming a weaker and weaker leader in the eyes of the public. He wont stand up for a public option, he wont stand up to China etc. He needs to develop some kind of backbone.
- With all this being said, the economy will probably have recovered by 2012, he'll take credit and get re-elected.
How is he supposed to "stand up" to China and why?
Oh yes, he certainly does. He could have a 24 hour camera crew follow him where ever he goes...and if he just so happens to find himself in Congress most of the time, so be it.
he just never intended to keep his promises...like every other person in the world in a position of power.
I basically believe that the foundations of our society are so corrupt and broken that even if Obama was everything I always wanted him to be, he can't fix anything because the rest of Washington won't allow it. Including Democrats. You throw in the GOP- a malcontented opposition party, consumed by evil, literally on a mission to purposefully destroy America... What chance does Obama have?
I believe Obama to be incredibly smart, dedicated and the best leader we have available. Doesn't matter though. There are too many people who want to see him and the country fail. And the people who are supposed to be his allies are consumed by aspiration, infighting and greed. It's just a ty situation.
Maybe he was naive for thinking he could bring change to such a ed up country, but if that's the worst you can say about the guy, well , at least he wanted to try.
Joe Wilson was right.
Forget the left right paradigm.
Joe Wilson was right.
^^ If he were the best leader available, Obama would have at least TRIED. He did not. He had such a massive public support wang in his hand and he did not even swing it around at the establishment.
Last edited by EmptyMan; 01-06-2010 at 12:33 PM.
Joe Wilson is ing re . And a s bag. A piece of every single American should be ashamed of. And he was wrong.
Where is the transparency on this healthcare debate?
Obama lied.
The lies are so obvious that a ing re can see them.
Obama. He ran on a platform about giving a about the vast majority of this nation, but once again, he has shown us that the middle 80% doesn't matter in this nation and has no control over anything in it. He's just another sucker neoliberal like Reagan, Daddy Bush, Clinton, and W, with the same aim of bleeding the middle-class for the gains of the few.
^^^Crude, but accurate and effective.
Well said.
I have to agree with EmptyMan on this. Obama never even tried to swing his hammer...and the American people gave him John Henry's when he was elected.
Obama is a wad politician whose only saving grace in the media's portrayal of him has been his ethnicity. If he werent black, he'd have already been crucified by the media.
Because really, he has done a really, REALLY ty job in his first year. So far, this is the worst first year of an Presidency in my lifetime. Mind you, I realize he inherited an economic meltdown, but his response to it has been completely in line with every ing thing I hate about this country.
Hes a hack and a stooge. Hes just as much a puppet as Bush was, but at least Bush had that "aw shucks" appeal going for him. Obama, otoh, is known to be intelligent and self-made...he doesnt have an excuse.
Look, people are going to inevitably ask "What should he have done different?" and I am not going to answer.
This country needed/needs a complete overhaul as it pertains to corporatism, trade and economic policy. A financial meltdown allows leadership to cast a wide net around the problem...and he hasnt done except talk about a new, self-policiing bureaucracy with nary a mention about not allowing companies to even become TBTF.
He ran on liberal and populist ideals and has proven to be a shill to the existing power structure.
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lol, yeah.
I won't ask what Obama should have done different, but assuming that he hasn't done anything more than talk- Do you feel that someone else as president could have or would have done any differently? Is it even possible, for anyone, left or right, to completely overhaul the country; its corporations and its economics? Call me a cynic, but I think not. Yet.This country needed/needs a complete overhaul as it pertains to corporatism, trade and economic policy.
I know your tactics much too well. If you dont think the US needs to stand up to China on any of the plethera of issues or dont understand how the president can do this, I cant help you.
How do you stand up to the country that owns the note on yours? It's not like they made us ship all our labor and debt to them... we cheerfully allowed ourselves to be subjugated and won't recover until we pay down the debt we owe and maybe bring a few jobs back home.
Maybe you could help me understand it. I'll even leave aside the question you begged about why we should 'stand up to China in the first place.
Do you want Obama to start talking tuff on China? Or do you think there is something he should actually do?
If so, what?
Bingo.
There is no "standing up to China" beyond pressuring the world banks and economies to have them revalue the Yuan. Beyond that (which is a biggy), China has done nothing wrong save for its own internal social problems like political descent equaling death or life imprisonment.
But those terms are no worse than others the US has called "pals" in the past.
We could stop borrowing from them. That would show them.
Show 'em real good....and Americans about the insolvency of its government, leading them to question just what in the Sam Hill theyre spending our money on!
Cant have the rabble rousing now can we, so we keep borrowing so Joe Sixpack can watch NASCAR on his financed 60" 1080p plasma tv, in his financed house, driving his financed car with a $5k credit card balance.
But a quick look at how our money is made and played reveals just how incredibly ed up our monetary policy is, and that goes FAR beyond the Chinese.
China is just the drug of choice at the moment. If it wasnt them, itd be something else trying to shoulder the impossible burden of debt our policies create.
But have no fear! A new currency is on the way promising stability and equity for all! except you
'stand up to China'
trite, cliche, garbage.
Tell that to Tibet.
Obama is such a pussy he wouldnt even meet with Dali lama.
President Barack Obama has refused to meet the Dalai Lama in Washington this week in a move to curry favour with the Chinese.
Jesus... Why the should America get in a fight with China over ing Tibet? You don't think we got about billion issues more important than China's human rights record? Give Us All AFB, dude.
It’s the first time in ten visits to the US in 18 years that the Dalai Lama has failed to meet with the American president. The political and diplomatic slight to the man widely admired in the US as brought forth a volley of criticism against Obama, hitherto hailed a champion of human rights.
You do realize he met him later don't you? or is it because he didn't meet him on your timeline so he's a pu$$y now.
Tell that to Tibet.
Obama is such a pussy he wouldnt even meet with Dali lama.
So it only pissed you off and tyhe Dali Lama didn't care..NEW DELHI — The Dalai Lama defended President Barack Obama from criticism that he has been too soft on China, saying Sunday that the U.S. leader just has a different approach to dealing with the Asian giant.
Those didnt got well either.The US President is going to Beijing next month at a time the US is widely seen as a declining en y and China as a growing power. Washington needs Beijing’s cooperation on several international issues – from climate change to trade to Iran and other key geo-political issues.
Our president, ladies and gentlemen.Obama’s handling of the matter will also be closely watched in New Delhi, which is suddenly facing a surfeit of prickly issues with China. The issue is complicated by the Dalai Lama’s scheduled visit to Arunachal Pradesh, which China considers disputed territory, in November, around the same time Obama will be in Beijing.
According to some reports, the Obama administration is pressing the Dalai Lama not to muddy the Arunachal issue while the U.S is engaged in persuading Beijing to initiate talks with the Tibetan leader. Washington is also being accused of dragging its feet on the implementation of the understanding reached between the preceding Bush administration and India, to undertake searches in Arunachal Pradesh territory for US Air Force personnel who had gone missing in action during the Second World War.
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