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    Allegedly. Why couldn't Stern wait until the investigation was complete before taking disciplinary measures? Kobe was allegedly anally raped a Colorado coed and faced no punitive measures while that legal case played itself out. What commissioner of any league would tolerate such alleged behavior?

    Arenas' story is that he brought the guns to the arena to give to team security and get them out of the house. I don't really buy that story, but it is still possible that no charges would be filed. Stern couldn't wait for it because he is a thin-skinned prick who thought he was being taunted by Arenas.
    Why did Arenas have to give the guns to team security? Why couldn't they come to his house?

    The fact is he had guns in an NBA locker room. There were no facts that Kobe raped a girl.

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    Why does an NBA player need a gun in a locker room?

    For all we know, Gilbert keeps the gun in his locker because it's a place he knows his kids don't have access to.

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    NBA players aren't paid to be role models. I hate when people say that. They are paid to play basketball. They are paid by the their respective teams to ing win. David Robinson wasn't paid to be a great guy and a great role model...he did it because he wanted to. He did it because that's just the kind of guy he is. If wally szczerbiak doesn't want to give some kid a high five and tell him to go to college, then he doesn't have to. That's not part of his contract.
    That is not entirely true. The NBA makes teams to the "NBA Cares" stuff, correct? Their contracts require more than just playing the games and practicing.

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    it's pretty clear gambling doesn't fly with Stern.

    I wouldn't say that considering his new rule with refs are they can bet on games they're not involved with.

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    For all we know, Gilbert keeps the gun in his locker because it's a place he knows his kids don't have access to.
    Has he ever heard of a lock box or a safe?

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    Can you prove some sort of evidence saying that letting Arenas continue to play was losing money?
    can you prove with some sort of evidence that letting Arenas continue to play was NOT losing the NBA money?

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    Nope. Arenas already confessed he brought multiple firearms as a joke in response to the gambling drama.

    Why couldn't Stern wait until the investigation was complete before taking disciplinary measures? .
    Because he was acting like an asshat about it to the media and worsening the situation. The NBA can't let one of its players act like that in serious situations like these.

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    Were there corporate sponsors threatening to end business relationships because Arenas was still playing while due process was taking its course?
    Is that the only way the NBA could lose money? NO

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    NBA players aren't paid to be role models. I hate when people say that. They are paid to play basketball. They are paid by the their respective teams to ing win. David Robinson wasn't paid to be a great guy and a great role model...he did it because he wanted to. He did it because that's just the kind of guy he is. If wally szczerbiak doesn't want to give some kid a high five and tell him to go to college, then he doesn't have to. That's not part of his contract.
    Bull ....these athletes are in the public eye and representing the NBA...the organziation they play for. They are getting paid MILLIONS of dollars.

    Why in the are they forced to do community events and then if they aren't paid to be role models?

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    For all we know, Gilbert keeps the gun in his locker because it's a place he knows his kids don't have access to.

    I know you don't even believe that DOK

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    Is that the only way the NBA could lose money? NO
    What are the other ways the NBA could lose money because of the Arenas situation? Would season-ticket packages not be renewed because of Arenas' conduct as opposed to the Wizards being ing terrible?

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    Why couldn't they come to his house?

    We have no idea. He could have little kids and he doesn't want to risk them finding the guns, he could have a wife who for whatever reason has been experiencing suicidal thoughts and wants him to get the guns out of the house until she is treated, god knows Arenas is loony enough that he himself could be contemplating suicide and wanted to give the gun to someone while he got treatment. There are reasons.

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    can you prove with some sort of evidence that letting Arenas continue to play was NOT losing the NBA money?

    Can you prove that the NBA letting Tim Duncan continue to play is NOT losing the NBA money?

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    Because he was acting like an asshat about it to the media and worsening the situation. The NBA can't let one of its players act like that in serious situations like these.
    Who was really paying attention to Arenas other than people who follow him on Twitter or hardcore NBA junkies that have Truehoop bookmarked? How was it making things worse? Arenas is rightly seen as a clown. Stern could've just publicly called him out and left him at that.

    I see the whole thing as a tempest in a teapot, and Stern's actions just made the story a whole lot bigger and just drew way more attention than if people had simply ignored Arenas' twitter stream.

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    It has nothing to do with $$$$ hoyl what are you guys arguing about?

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    I know you don't even believe that DOK

    In this country there's a burden to prove beyond reasonable doubt, based on what I know, there's plenty of reasonable doubt. Do I think that's what happened? No. Do I think there's at least a 5% chance Gilbert is completely innocent here? Yes, which in this country is reasonable doubt.

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    That is not entirely true. The NBA makes teams to the "NBA Cares" stuff, correct? Their contracts require more than just playing the games and practicing.
    Players volunteer for community service and charity. I've never heard of a player having a clause in his contract that required mandatory charity work. Many of these guys want to help kids and want to help their communities. But Dennis Rodman wasn't being paid to inspire kids...he was paid to be a nasty rebounder and defender.

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    Nope. Arenas already confessed he brought multiple firearms as a joke in response to the gambling drama.

    It's up to the DC authorities to determine if a crime was committed. Until then, suspending Arenas is simply public relations. Suspending him ironically makes this a bigger story and draws more attention to it.

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    anyone post of the pic of areneas doing a gun salute before the game?

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    nvm they did

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    can you prove with some sort of evidence that letting Arenas continue to play was NOT losing the NBA money?

    This is probably the dumbest post in this thread btw. I'm awed at the stupidity. I wasn't aware that you had to prove someone innocent in order for them to be not guilty, or in this case, you have to prove someone is not losing the NBA money in order for them to be allowed to play.

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    Bull ....these athletes are in the public eye and representing the NBA...the organziation they play for. They are getting paid MILLIONS of dollars.

    Why in the are they forced to do community events and then if they aren't paid to be role models?
    Sure they represent the NBA and their respective teams...and if the NBA doesn't like how a certain player is conducting himself then they have the right to reprimand said player. That doesnt mean that player are contractually obligated to read books to kids.

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    Whether suspending Arenas was fair or not, Gilbert Arenas had this coming to him from the beginning, and I'm not talking about the the whole gun pointing situation but his statement to the media. It was clear from yesterday's remarks that he had "ASSHAT" tagged all over him. He basically gave David Stern and the entire Wizard's organization a black eye by making the situation seem like it was no big deal. Ya we all know he's a crazy goofball that likes to joke a lot but most of America don't know that. In their eyes, they see him as a spoiled, hopeless punk with no sense of reality and no clue of what's really going on.

    Here are some of his twitter comments on the whole thing.

    "i wake up this morning and seen i was the new JOHN WAYNE..lmao media is too funny"

    "i am sticking with what i know . . . thats jokes sweetie"

    "so pls dont take what i say serious or i will piss off from time 2 time becuz i dont hav a filter on my jokes"

    "PUT A SMILE ON YOUR FACE AND THINK: YOU'RE ALIVE AND STILL AROUND . . . so join me in enjoying everyday and smile for the negative people."

    "its easy to hide from ur problem but a real person dont break character when thing arent going his or her way. becuz thats [all] u have at the end of the day"

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    Who was really paying attention to Arenas other than people who follow him on Twitter or hardcore NBA junkies that have Truehoop bookmarked? How was it making things worse? Arenas is rightly seen as a clown. Stern could've just publicly called him out and left him at that.
    The entire sports media have had their eyes set on this story. Unfortunately Arenas hasn't limited his asshattery to just the internet since he acts like an asshat about it whenever he could as seen in that picture a couple of pages back where he's shooting his teammates with his hands on the court.

    I see the whole thing as a tempest in a teapot, and Stern's actions just made the story a whole lot bigger and just drew way more attention than if people had simply ignored Arenas' twitter stream.
    Stern's actions are exactly what the sports media and fans have expected and respected. I don't understand why you want to give a free pass to a guy that acted like an asshat about bringing multiple firearms as a joke in response to gambling drama that broke rules/laws and could set a dangerous precedent if unpunished. Then you factor in the amount of effort NBA players and the league have fought against their dumb thug image and Arena's actions are even more ty. By not acting upon it would draw even more attention and deserved criticism.

    Even the crazy Delonte West knew better than to act like Agent Zero and he didn't even bring those weapons to a NBA facility.

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    Sure they represent the NBA and their respective teams...and if the NBA doesn't like how a certain player is conducting himself then they have the right to reprimand said player. That doesnt mean that player are contractually obligated to read books to kids.
    I don't know about reading books to kids, although certain players have that kind of obligations on their contracts - there are bonus for promotional/charity appearances.

    But to say they're only paid to play basketball is short-sighted. NBA contracts are much more complex than that and by signing one you agree to a set of behavioural rules that go well beyond the basketball court.

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